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    [W:3596] Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage

    With the recent news from Brunei about imposing the death penalty on gays and adulterers, I've been wondering just what is the justification fo opposing gay marriage. Why do some people really hate homosexuals, whether male or female?

    Here's a list of arguments against same sex marriage that I found on the internets:
    1. It requires a new definition of marriage
    2. Not the same as laws that prohibited mixed race marriages
    3. Marriage is meant to increase population
    4. Infringes upon some peoples' religion freedom
    5. Rights are granted by God and He doesn't like gay marriage
    6. Morality comes from God and He doesn't like the gays
    7. Acceptance of gay marriage will lead to incest and paedophilia
    8. Homosexuals are unhealthy – that whole AIDS thing, you know.
    9. Allowing gay marriage will cause societal collapse, as other immoral behaviour becomes more accepted.
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    Men hate them because they are afraid that they are secretly attracted to men themselves... OR, because they are religious (yet another reason religion is utter crap)

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    re: [W:3596] Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    With the recent news from Brunei about imposing the death penalty on gays and adulterers, I've been wondering just what is the justification fo opposing gay marriage. Why do some people really hate homosexuals, whether male or female?

    Here's a list of arguments against same sex marriage that I found on the internets:
    1. It requires a new definition of marriage
    2. Not the same as laws that prohibited mixed race marriages
    3. Marriage is meant to increase population
    4. Infringes upon some peoples' religion freedom
    5. Rights are granted by God and He doesn't like gay marriage
    6. Morality comes from God and He doesn't like the gays
    7. Acceptance of gay marriage will lead to incest and paedophilia
    8. Homosexuals are unhealthy – that whole AIDS thing, you know.
    9. Allowing gay marriage will cause societal collapse, as other immoral behaviour becomes more accepted.
    Huh. Those are some pretty stupid arguments.
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    re: [W:3596] Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    With the recent news from Brunei about imposing the death penalty on gays and adulterers, I've been wondering just what is the justification fo opposing gay marriage. Why do some people really hate homosexuals, whether male or female?

    Here's a list of arguments against same sex marriage that I found on the internets:
    1. It requires a new definition of marriage
    2. Not the same as laws that prohibited mixed race marriages
    3. Marriage is meant to increase population
    4. Infringes upon some peoples' religion freedom
    5. Rights are granted by God and He doesn't like gay marriage
    6. Morality comes from God and He doesn't like the gays
    7. Acceptance of gay marriage will lead to incest and paedophilia
    8. Homosexuals are unhealthy – that whole AIDS thing, you know.
    9. Allowing gay marriage will cause societal collapse, as other immoral behaviour becomes more accepted.
    So what was number 1 supposed to be?

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    Makes no difference to me what other people do or how they live...I abide by God's laws regardless...
    "However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron." 1 Timothy 4:1,2

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    re: [W:3596] Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    With the recent news from Brunei about imposing the death penalty on gays and adulterers, I've been wondering just what is the justification fo opposing gay marriage. Why do some people really hate homosexuals, whether male or female?

    Here's a list of arguments against same sex marriage that I found on the internets:
    1. It requires a new definition of marriage
    2. Not the same as laws that prohibited mixed race marriages
    3. Marriage is meant to increase population
    4. Infringes upon some peoples' religion freedom
    5. Rights are granted by God and He doesn't like gay marriage
    6. Morality comes from God and He doesn't like the gays
    7. Acceptance of gay marriage will lead to incest and paedophilia
    8. Homosexuals are unhealthy – that whole AIDS thing, you know.
    9. Allowing gay marriage will cause societal collapse, as other immoral behaviour becomes more accepted.
    Let me take a swing at some of these arguments you found.

    It requires a new definition of marriage
    The legal definition is often different from the dictionary or your religion's definition. How will changing the legal definition of this word have real-world harmful consequences?

    Not the same as laws that prohibited mixed race marriages
    Not really an argument against gay marriage.

    Marriage is meant to increase population
    Marriage also exists to make people more monogamous and create stable relationships and lives. Gay marriages can also be stable environments for caring for adopted children. Also, the planet has an over-population problem, not an under-population problem, so maybe marriages aren't needed for population increase like they used to be.

    Infringes upon some peoples' religion freedom
    Only if you require businesses to serve gay people. And I think this still would be a problem if gays were in unmarried relationships anyway. That is a separate debate.

    Rights are granted by God and He doesn't like gay marriage
    No evidence for any of that.

    Acceptance of gay marriage will lead to incest and paedophilia
    No evidence of that. How will gay people being married rather than unmarried relationships increase incest and paedophilia?

    Homosexuals are unhealthy – that whole AIDS thing, you know.
    AIDS is quickly becoming a very treatable disease that don't take many years off life expectancy if properly treated. Gays do have higher rates of STDs but straight people also have shockingly high rates of STDs, so does that mean all sex is bad because of STDs? The reality is that having a fulfilling relationship with someone you are attracted to is worth the risk. The real problem is unsafe sex and non-monogamy whether straight or gay. Gay people who practice safe sex and monogomy won't get STDs and the best way to encourage this is by establishing gay marriage. Lesbians have much lower rates of STDs so this argument doesn't even apply to them.

    Allowing gay marriage will cause societal collapse, as other immoral behaviour becomes more accepted.
    More evidence and clarification is needed. Also this "immoral behavior" has to be established as actually harmful. Many nations including the US have gay marriage and their societies are doing better than most nations in the world.

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    re: [W:3596] Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    With the recent news from Brunei about imposing the death penalty on gays and adulterers, I've been wondering just what is the justification fo opposing gay marriage. Why do some people really hate homosexuals, whether male or female?

    Here's a list of arguments against same sex marriage that I found on the internets:
    1. It requires a new definition of marriage
    2. Not the same as laws that prohibited mixed race marriages
    3. Marriage is meant to increase population
    4. Infringes upon some peoples' religion freedom
    5. Rights are granted by God and He doesn't like gay marriage
    6. Morality comes from God and He doesn't like the gays
    7. Acceptance of gay marriage will lead to incest and paedophilia
    8. Homosexuals are unhealthy – that whole AIDS thing, you know.
    9. Allowing gay marriage will cause societal collapse, as other immoral behaviour becomes more accepted.
    Well you seem to have collected them all. What do you intend to with your collection? Scotus threw theirs in the dumpster several years back . Nobody else has dived in after them.

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    re: [W:3596] Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    With the recent news from Brunei about imposing the death penalty on gays and adulterers, I've been wondering just what is the justification fo opposing gay marriage. Why do some people really hate homosexuals, whether male or female?

    Here's a list of arguments against same sex marriage that I found on the internets:
    1. It requires a new definition of marriage
    2. Not the same as laws that prohibited mixed race marriages
    3. Marriage is meant to increase population
    4. Infringes upon some peoples' religion freedom
    5. Rights are granted by God and He doesn't like gay marriage
    6. Morality comes from God and He doesn't like the gays
    7. Acceptance of gay marriage will lead to incest and paedophilia
    8. Homosexuals are unhealthy – that whole AIDS thing, you know.
    9. Allowing gay marriage will cause societal collapse, as other immoral behaviour becomes more accepted.
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    re: [W:3596] Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    With the recent news from Brunei about imposing the death penalty on gays and adulterers, I've been wondering just what is the justification fo opposing gay marriage. Why do some people really hate homosexuals, whether male or female?

    Here's a list of arguments against same sex marriage that I found on the internets:
    1. It requires a new definition of marriage
    2. Not the same as laws that prohibited mixed race marriages
    3. Marriage is meant to increase population
    4. Infringes upon some peoples' religion freedom
    5. Rights are granted by God and He doesn't like gay marriage
    6. Morality comes from God and He doesn't like the gays
    7. Acceptance of gay marriage will lead to incest and paedophilia
    8. Homosexuals are unhealthy – that whole AIDS thing, you know.
    9. Allowing gay marriage will cause societal collapse, as other immoral behaviour becomes more accepted.
    • Denying some people the option to marry is discriminatory and creates a second class of citizens
    • Same-sex couples should have access to the same benefits enjoyed by heterosexual married couples.
    • The concept of "traditional marriage" has changed over time, and the definition of marriage as always being between one man and one woman is historically inaccurate.
    • Gay marriage is protected by the US Constitution's commitments to liberty and equality.
    • Marriage is an internationally recognized human right for all people.
    • Same-sex marriage is a civil right.
    • Marriage is not only for procreation, otherwise infertile couples or couples not wishing to have children would be prevented from marrying.
    • Gay marriages can bring financial gain to federal, state, and local governments and can help boost the economy.
    • Gay couples make good parents. A June 2014 peer-reviewed University of Melbourne study showed that children raised by same-sex parents score about six percent higher than the general population on measures of general health and family cohesion.

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