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If somebody asks me if I've gotten laid that's sexual harassment

CannonballB said:
You realize that you can't "press charges" against someone the first time they harass you, right? You have to tell them in no uncertain terms that this conversation is unwanted and they need to stop.
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Alright, lets say somebody in college asks me if I've been laid, I tell them its none of their business and they persist with that kind of talk, I should be able to press charges then.
 
CannonballB said:
Sexual harassment is a civil issue, not criminal. Believe it or not, there are no laws against sexual harassment at all. The only way it becomes criminal is if someone puts hands on you.
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So therefore, I could go up to a woman on the street and say I would like to do all this stuff to her but as long as I don't touch her I won't get in trouble?
 
DebateChallenge said:
So therefore, I could go up to a woman on the street and say I would like to do all this stuff to her but as long as I don't touch her I won't get in trouble?
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Not once. If you start following her or restraining her in any way, then that is escalation and it depends on how far it goes.

Why do you keep looking for approval to act like an asshole?

Take the high road. Find a healthier outlet for your angst.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Alright, lets say somebody in college asks me if I've been laid, I tell them its none of their business and they persist with that kind of talk, I should be able to press charges then.
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I think context has a lot to do with the answer you seek. In the workplace it would be a far difference story than at a bar drinking a few cold ones with your buddies.
 
PirateMk1 said:
The old "Would you believe...………" trope eh. I'll buy it for a dollar. :lamo
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Officer Murphy would like a word with you.

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Lursa said:
Yeah, we've covered that before.

Taking offense at comments and physical beating are 2 very different things.

If you are in college, you should grasp this.
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If the college wants to expel me fine, but its not for the law to get involved if I slug some guy in college whose harassing me.
 
Lursa said:
Not once. If you start following her or restraining her in any way, then that is escalation and it depends on how far it goes.

Why do you keep looking for approval to act like an asshole?

Take the high road. Find a healthier outlet for your angst.
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The way you lay it out you make it sound like I could go up to a woman on the street and say I would like to do all this stuff to her and get into explicit detail and provided that I don't touch her or follow her or restrain her which would obviously involve touching or some sort of physical contact I would not get in trouble. Not that I ever would do that and I find it offensive that you imply that I would but if somebody were to do that I would think they could be charged with harassment or stalking.
 
Joecool44 said:
I think context has a lot to do with the answer you seek. In the workplace it would be a far difference story than at a bar drinking a few cold ones with your buddies.
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In this thread I talked about college, which is much like the workplace.
 
DebateChallenge said:
If somebody asks me if I've gotten laid that's sexual harassment and I should be able to press charges.
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If that's how you feel, I suggest you go right ahead and press charges, bring suit and/or file an official complaint. Nothing's stopping you from taking at least one of those actions.
 
DebateChallenge said:
If the college wants to expel me fine, but its not for the law to get involved if I slug some guy in college whose harassing me.
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Try it and you'll find out you're wrong if he calls the cops.
 
DebateChallenge said:
The way you lay it out you make it sound like I could go up to a woman on the street and say I would like to do all this stuff to her and get into explicit detail and provided that I don't touch her or follow her or restrain her which would obviously involve touching or some sort of physical contact I would not get in trouble. Not that I ever would do that and I find it offensive that you imply that I would but if somebody were to do that I would think they could be charged with harassment or stalking.
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Wow!

That's completely wrong re: my intent. It was a hypothetical that logically fit into your own initial hypothetical. Had nothing to do with you personally.

It's troubling to think that someone so high strung as you 'appear' here in writing is out there grappling with this stuff in real life...and is so seemingly unprepared.
 
CLAX1911 said:
what situation would you be allowed to punch somebody for asking you if you've ever been laid?
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I wouldn't be allowed to punch somebody for that, but if somebody in any way gets physical with me, if somebody touches me I can punch them, its called self defense.
 
DebateChallenge said:
The way you lay it out you make it sound like I could go up to a woman on the street and say I would like to do all this stuff to her and get into explicit detail and provided that I don't touch her or follow her or restrain her which would obviously involve touching or some sort of physical contact I would not get in trouble. Not that I ever would do that and I find it offensive that you imply that I would but if somebody were to do that I would think they could be charged with harassment or stalking.
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I'm just going to throw out a "duh" here. Yes, you are correct, as long as you don't touch, restrain or follow her, you're harassing her in the moment, but the (legal) onus is on her to remove herself from the situation. Let's say she does call the cops. They're not going to arrest you. The only thing they're going to do is tell one of you to remove yourselves from the situation and go on with their day. Now, if the cops come, they tell you to stop, you don't stop and do it blatantly in front of them, then you'll go to jail for failure to obey an officer.

Ultimately, I agree with your thought process that someone shouldn't be able to harass someone else. Unfortunately, that's not the (legal) reality.

DebateChallenge said:
Do you have a background in law?
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You don't need a law degree to know what will and won't happen to you under various circumstances. In fact, you should know the laws as well, considering, legally, "ignorance of the law is no excuse" (I'm not saying you're not learning the laws, just a general statement).

DebateChallenge said:
I wouldn't be allowed to punch somebody for that, but if somebody in any way gets physical with me, if somebody touches me I can punch them, its called self defense.
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Could, potentially, depend on context. If he grabs your arm with no other provocation, you pull away and he let's go, no, you can't punch him. I believe the term that gets used is "reasonable response" (someone else can correct me if needed).
 
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DebateChallenge said:
I wouldn't be allowed to punch somebody for that, but if somebody in any way gets physical with me, if somebody touches me I can punch them, its called self defense.
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If I hug you will you punch me?

If I tap on your shoulder?

If I bump into you?

All touching. All not worthy of you punching.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Do you have a background in law?
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LOLOLOL

Er, you are here, frequently asking legal questions..."am I allowed..."


If you only want replies from lawyers, please add that to your OPs.
 
Need more information about why someone is asking the OP if he or she has been laid. Are you a woman and a man is asking you this because you feel he wants to have sex with you? How many times has them happened, is he or she stalking you, bullying you etc? You must have an idea of why this person is asking this and why haven't you reported this to school officials if you are being harassed or bullied?

No you can not get physical with the person asking you if you've been laid because then you could be charged with assault. Go to officials and tell them what's going on and what you should do to stop it. You can go to the Police and tell them what is happening and possibly get a restraining order or protective order, depends on how they look at this situation.
 
CannonballB said:
I'm just going to throw out a "duh" here. Yes, you are correct, as long as you don't touch, restrain or follow her, you're harassing her in the moment, but the (legal) onus is on her to remove herself from the situation.
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How about being charged with stalking? By law stalking is defined as "unwanted attention," so it could be a charge even if you do allow her to leave and don't follow her and don't persist.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, but it is a defense if the law is not clearly posted.
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Laws are all published and accessible...that doesnt mean clearly posted.

Since when is "I didnt see the sign so I didnt know it was wrong to murder him" a defense?
 
Lursa said:
Laws are all published and accessible...that doesnt mean clearly posted.

Since when is "I didnt see the sign so I didnt know it was wrong to murder him" a defense?
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Murder is quite cut and dry. The fact that you can't murder people is common knowledge and common sense. Only a small child or somebody who is severely mentally handicapped would not understand that you can't murder.
 
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