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Well, I finally faced hate. A personal story.

Renae said:
Actually, you're wrong. They had ample opportunity to discuss the matter, with me. Respectfully, as you would with anyone else. They did not avail themselves of that. They chose, after I had departed to go to the LEAGUE and informed them because I am Trans and going to be bowling as the real me, they did not want that on their team.

It was rude, disrespectful and it was yes hate.

Which is fine, their loss. I joined 6 weeks late into the season start, they were DEAD LAST PLACE. Moved up 4 spots since I joined. **** them.
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Even though I'm not a fan of LGBTABCXYZBULL****+, the main question is: Can you bowl effectively? At the end of the day, it boils down to getting **** done.
 
Renae said:
Actually, you're wrong. They had ample opportunity to discuss the matter, with me. Respectfully, as you would with anyone else. They did not avail themselves of that. They chose, after I had departed to go to the LEAGUE and informed them because I am Trans and going to be bowling as the real me, they did not want that on their team.

It was rude, disrespectful and it was yes hate.

Which is fine, their loss. I joined 6 weeks late into the season start, they were DEAD LAST PLACE. Moved up 4 spots since I joined. **** them.
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What is your long term plan to get back into competitive bowling - if you have one?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Paying attention to what people do over what they say is not a political issue, for one thing the lying pervades lives to include willful ignorance and self deception.
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Sorry, I must have missed you mentioning your degree in psychiatry. Or mind-reading. :roll:
 
Lursa said:
Sorry, I must have missed you mentioning your degree in psychiatry. Or mind-reading. :roll:
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Some kind of law enforcement degree would best serve that talent. He's right; most speech is bluff. If a beggar is asking for a handout for food, receives a sandwich and promptly throws it away, it's a safe bet that the hunger claim is bogus. The beggar is angling for cash, likely for booze.

The best single filter for a young man seeking a wife is to observe how she treats her parents. If a waiter brags about a restaurant's high quality food and you see dead flies in the lighting, one should assume the waiter is wrong.

It's not mind reading; it's observing behavior AND noticing what is NOT said.
 
SDET said:
Even though I'm not a fan of LGBTABCXYZBULL****+, the main question is: Can you bowl effectively? At the end of the day, it boils down to getting **** done.
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Yee, I can indeed
 
joko104 said:
What is your long term plan to get back into competitive bowling - if you have one?
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My friends and I are gonna roll a Summer League together and prep for next winter with people that aren't asshats
 
⇮⇮⇮ The irony.
 
Fruityfact said:
Pathetic Birther*
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And again.
Besides your comment having not a damn thing to do with the topic; In what regards?​
In what regards am I a birther? I bet you are unable to say.
But if you are, it may be why you avoid providing an answer.
 
Renae said:
So, I have been on a bowling team, since I didn't know the people "he" went, it's not easy and I didnt' like it but he bowled. They were told I was trans, but I let the league get used to me. Finally I said Renae would be bowling. AFTER I LEFT, the team said they were not going to bowl with me on the team.

I got the call after I got home.

I am so, so hurt right now.
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I had to read you post several times to understand what happened. I am wondering, why didn't you go as yourself? Do you not feel comfortable going places as Renae, because I thought you were living as a woman...
 
SheWolf said:
I had to read you post several times to understand what happened. I am wondering, why didn't you go as yourself? Do you not feel comfortable going places as Renae, because I thought you were living as a woman...
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Good query, I do as a rule go EVERYWHERE as myself. Thing is, I was nervous about the league as I had no idea and was told there were older bowlers and was asked to ease them into it. Since I am STILL ****ing fighting over this name gender marker change (long story, nother thread, it's a mess) I decided easing them in. Here's the thing, bowling is a competition, and I wanted people to know me, and so when RENAE finally showed up it wouldn't be a shock, I would have cleared it with the league which catagory (prize money and awards) I would roll under regardless and well...
I hadn't bowled in 18 months. I sucked the first 2 weeks, and then got really much better. WAY better.

It didn't work out, I should have just gone as Renae (as me) anyway and they'd have to deal with it or bounce me first night.
I ****ed up trying to do something...
 
Renae said:
My friends and I are gonna roll a Summer League together and prep for next winter with people that aren't asshats
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While I find the asshat comment to be irony, I applaud you for the underlined portion.

:applaud
 
Renae said:
So, I have been on a bowling team, since I didn't know the people "he" went, it's not easy and I didnt' like it but he bowled. They were told I was trans, but I let the league get used to me. Finally I said Renae would be bowling. AFTER I LEFT, the team said they were not going to bowl with me on the team.

I got the call after I got home.

I am so, so hurt right now.
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Find new friends.
 
Renae said:
My friends and I are gonna roll a Summer League together and prep for next winter with people that aren't asshats
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Excellent decision!
 
SDET said:
Some kind of law enforcement degree would best serve that talent. He's right; most speech is bluff. If a beggar is asking for a handout for food, receives a sandwich and promptly throws it away, it's a safe bet that the hunger claim is bogus. The beggar is angling for cash, likely for booze.

The best single filter for a young man seeking a wife is to observe how she treats her parents. If a waiter brags about a restaurant's high quality food and you see dead flies in the lighting, one should assume the waiter is wrong.

It's not mind reading; it's observing behavior AND noticing what is NOT said.
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I am trained in LE.

And women are often taught the bold about men.
 
If everything about this story is true

-its a mixed league
-they were told from day one
-they had you removed from the team after you said you would be bowling as a she
-they are in violation of anti-discrimination rules of the US Bowling Congress

then these are the facts
- those that got off the team for being transgender are bigots
- those that got you off the team for being transgender are discriminating against you
- by definition it is hate
- turning them in for their violations is your choice, its just and if you do its of their own making
 
Casado said:
1.)Back to the title here: you did not face hate.
2.) Just because someone does not agree with your lifestyle or life choices, does not mean they hate you!
3.) I do not agree with transgenders.... I happen to believe it is a mental illness. (here come the haters!)
4.) Do I hate you? No.
5.) Would I treat you civilly? Yes.
6.) Would I be uncomfortable around you? Yes.
7.) But that does not mean hate.
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1.) the dictionary disagrees with you and proves you wrong. By definition Renae did face hate
2.) who said that?
3.) then you have bigoted views and severely uneducated about the topic because science disagrees with you and proves you wrong
4.) who said "you" hate ranae?
5.) thats good but by definition you still have uneducated bigoted views
6.) thats YOUR issue to deal with and per the rules of this bowling league if you played on it, it would be YOU that has to choose not to play
7.) again who said THAT is hate

it seems you are very uneducated bout this topic and made up a lot of strawmen nobody said. maybe clarify yourself.
 
Renae said:
So, I have been on a bowling team, since I didn't know the people "he" went, it's not easy and I didnt' like it but he bowled. They were told I was trans, but I let the league get used to me. Finally I said Renae would be bowling. AFTER I LEFT, the team said they were not going to bowl with me on the team.

I got the call after I got home.

I am so, so hurt right now.
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This sucks :(

Hopefully you'll find a new bowling team that actually deserves you.
 
Renae said:
So, I have been on a bowling team, since I didn't know the people "he" went, it's not easy and I didnt' like it but he bowled. They were told I was trans, but I let the league get used to me. Finally I said Renae would be bowling. AFTER I LEFT, the team said they were not going to bowl with me on the team.

I got the call after I got home.

I am so, so hurt right now.
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Roses are red violets are blue
The number of genders is only 2
You are such a snowflake
Your social justice tantrum could an earthquake
The only way for social justice warriors to calm down and chill
Is too take a pill
:cool:
GOD DAM REANE
 
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ABC123TT said:
Roses are red violets are blue
The number of genders is only 2
You are such a snowflake
Your social justice tantrum could an earthquake
The only way for social justice warriors to calm down and chill
Is too take a pill
:cool:
GOD DAM REANE
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Wonder what banned poster this is?
Well we know they didn't send this post from English class LMAO

wow that was just horrendous :laughat:
 
ABC123TT said:
Roses are red violets are blue
The number of genders is only 2
You are such a snowflake
Your social justice tantrum could an earthquake
The only way for social justice warriors to calm down and chill
Is too take a pill
:cool:
GOD DAM REANE
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You're gonna last long, the Hosiery is strong with you.
 
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