No difference between straight/gay love

TheGoverness said:

He's just mad about the gay rainbow plague.

One of us. One of us. ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

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Not gonna lie - I unironically think the utility/variety of being bisexual would be great, if it weren't for this pesky heterosexuality thing getting in the way. Weird that so many Christian conservatives seem to believe they have a choice in their sexuality.

RAMOSS said:

Why, that is not true, else there would be no great debate about it. According to Rambam (10th century Rabbi), it was specifically referring to anal sex. Other claim it had do to with humiliation rape. To say that it is 'plain and simple, and to the point' ignores many things, including cultural context of the time.

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Of course a guy called "Rambam" think's it's all about anal. That name did not age well.

TheParser said:

Thank you, Miss Kitty, for the "interesting" link about the practices of SOME gays.

I am sure that someone could also write a screed detailing the distasteful practices of SOME straights.

There will never be a resolution to this topic.

Gays and their friends will continue to fight for what they consider their rights.


And you and your friends will continue to oppose those rights.


I hope, however, that anti-gay people agree that verbal and physical gay bashing is wrong.

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I understand that gays are now allowed to donate blood. I believe that this is a bad decision. Because of the possibility of HIV infection, gays should voluntarily refrain from donating blood, IMHO.

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No problem with gays having beliefs that differ from mine, why do gays go bonkers because my beliefs are different?

I have never debated the advantages and disadvantages of dating either men or women. I really do not see myself sitting with a pen and a legal pad, ready to make an expansive pros and cons list to determine if I should live as a straight man, as a gay man or somewhere in between as a bisexual man. In spite of never having given it a single minute of thought, women simply strike me as attractive. It's actually worst than this because it's not all the women that I have found attractive. As most people can tell, you can be attracted to people to whom you would rather not be attracted and you absolutely cannot help yourself. Ask the millions of people who have experienced rejection. So, why on Earth would I presume that, somehow, homosexuals have this unique capacity of choosing who they love and who they do not love? Of course, maybe some religious conservatives are speaking out of their own experience of struggling with their own sexuality.

On a second level, even if we make the assumption that I am wrong and that people really control their sexuality, why is it my business what someone else puts or does not put in his mouth during his spare time? I don't care and neither does the vast majority of people. If you must know, most people care about themselves, their family, their friends and perhaps a few more people. They don't give a damn what someone does in their bedroom or the backseat fo their car two states over. It's called individual liberties and it is a beautiful thing. That argument extends right away to the weird dispute over marriage that essentially ended with the 2015 ruling by the SCOTUS. Here, I see things very simply: I don't want the government's dirty hands playing around in the private lives of people. Either sanction all marriages between consenting adults, or sanction none of them. On a third level, I understand the frustration. There is nothing that gets me more mad than some kind of prick trying to tell me what I can and cannot do or say.


Now, to be entirely clear, this does not mean that I get along with LGBT rights activists. I'm defending individual liberties here. The exact same argument I made in the second paragraph means I am completely appalled by people trying to control speech. Likewise, I don't think anyone should have the right to force businesses to engage in activities their owners disapprouve, even if in both cases I end up siding with people whose opinions I just attacked. The greater principle at stake here is that letting people agree to disagree and go about their own lives in the way they see fit benefits all of us and it keeps us in a relatively peaceful condition. I'm not disposed to replace on form of authoritarianism with another.

Finally, to be entirely fair, there is a major difference between someone who express the opinion that homosexuality is wrong and someone who use that opinion and the full force of the government to force it on other people. I don't have a problem with people who think homosexuality is sinful, yet would never force their views on others. I think they're wrong, but that's just life.