Promiscuity & The MeToo Movement

Hawkeye10 said:

now now....

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calamity said:

Any guy with even a modicum of personality: sense of humor, ability to carry on a conversation, no body odor...can get laid. So, I have no idea what the whine is all about from these incel types.

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blarg said:

no now you owe it to every one to suck my dick to make me feel better or now now you dont?

clarify please

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TDGonDP said:

From the sociological reports I’ve encountered over the years, it seems that about 10% of citizens in western societies are sexually promiscuous. They have sex with more than one partner within a time period of around one year. This means, and contrary to popular culture, 90% of us are monogamous or celibate.

The MeToo movement brings a challenge the promiscuous. In order for a casual sexual tryst to happen, both parties need to play the part of a fisherman: appropriate fishing location, appropriate lure, appropriate hook, and skillful play of the fishing line are all needed to land in the objective: get laid! If the fisherman’s game is not played properly, the tryst falls apart. But as this game is being played, one or both parties have to transcend the boundaries of what many people would consider unwanted sexual advances. So this fishing-for-sex game puts the players in a dangerous position as they are figuring out how negotiate with someone for a sexual encounter. The promiscuous can now face consequences: after a certain threshold has been crossed, the prospect can turn a fishing trip into a police charge.

Another angle to this social promiscuity is that some players are fairly direct in their approach. They are either misreading the signals that allow them to take their potential conquest to the next level of negotiation or are just playing a numbers game, knowing that their direct advances sometimes work. For example, a hand on the knee under the table will quickly establish if a potential partner is ready for more action. If the hand is removed, the offending partner knows the game is off—and can move to another prospect. But today, that hand can land the player in a lot of trouble.

While the sociological reports I encountered seem to indicate that poverty and youth enhances promiscuity, all demographic groups have members who are promiscuous. It’s safe to say that that 10% of avid supporters of the MeToo movement are also promiscuous—and are playing a game that is somewhat counter to their message.

So how do promiscuous players play their game in the age of MeToo?

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distraff said:

What does an active sex life have to do with rape?

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Hawkeye10 said:

I demand to be treated better than this.

If you improve get back to me.

:bon_voyag

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distraff said:

What does an active sex life have to do with rape?

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blarg said:

you could ask if what you want to do is ok before you do it

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Hawkeye10 said:

I heard I think Jordan Peterson say that the top 15% of males get as much sex as the bottom 85%.....something like that.... he has studies..........this sounds about right, I have been saying for years that the most sought after guys get more than they can handle while increasingly the rest get nothing.

I really feel for these guys,a and what as more I see this as a risk to the society.....not just because of the anger in young men that this generates (which is a colossally bad idea to let this happen, I do say to women that they owe it to society to be more inclusive, which is of course not allowed to be said), but also this warps men generally....probably for life.

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Skeptic Bob said:

Yeah, that 10% number seems way too small. But maybe that is because my single years were spent in college and the military.

I was very promiscuous before I met my wife. During my 20s I probably averaged 3 one-night-stands a month. The women I hooked up with knew it was just a one-night-stand and we were on the same page. There was never once any confusion over consent. It really isn’t difficult to determine if a woman is giving consent...unless you are on the spectrum perhaps.

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Hawkeye10 said:

I only ever read your top line btw....your posts are too dreary to read in full.

I am one of the haves, I talk about it here sometimes...BDSM, Swinging, in a sometimes Master/Slave relationship.....one of the top 15%.

I feel for the have nots however, I work to publicize their neglect, and their generally sad start to life....with likely life long consequences for them and as well the rest of us.

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TDGonDP said:

From the sociological reports I’ve encountered over the years, it seems that about 10% of citizens in western societies are sexually promiscuous. They have sex with more than one partner within a time period of around one year. This means, and contrary to popular culture, 90% of us are monogamous or celibate.

The MeToo movement brings a challenge the promiscuous. In order for a casual sexual tryst to happen, both parties need to play the part of a fisherman: appropriate fishing location, appropriate lure, appropriate hook, and skillful play of the fishing line are all needed to land in the objective: get laid! If the fisherman’s game is not played properly, the tryst falls apart. But as this game is being played, one or both parties have to transcend the boundaries of what many people would consider unwanted sexual advances. So this fishing-for-sex game puts the players in a dangerous position as they are figuring out how negotiate with someone for a sexual encounter. The promiscuous can now face consequences: after a certain threshold has been crossed, the prospect can turn a fishing trip into a police charge.

Another angle to this social promiscuity is that some players are fairly direct in their approach. They are either misreading the signals that allow them to take their potential conquest to the next level of negotiation or are just playing a numbers game, knowing that their direct advances sometimes work. For example, a hand on the knee under the table will quickly establish if a potential partner is ready for more action. If the hand is removed, the offending partner knows the game is off—and can move to another prospect. But today, that hand can land the player in a lot of trouble.

While the sociological reports I encountered seem to indicate that poverty and youth enhances promiscuity, all demographic groups have members who are promiscuous. It’s safe to say that that 10% of avid supporters of the MeToo movement are also promiscuous—and are playing a game that is somewhat counter to their message.

So how do promiscuous players play their game in the age of MeToo?

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TDGonDP said:

From the sociological reports I’ve encountered over the years, it seems that about 10% of citizens in western societies are sexually promiscuous. They have sex with more than one partner within a time period of around one year. This means, and contrary to popular culture, 90% of us are monogamous or celibate.

The MeToo movement brings a challenge the promiscuous. In order for a casual sexual tryst to happen, both parties need to play the part of a fisherman: appropriate fishing location, appropriate lure, appropriate hook, and skillful play of the fishing line are all needed to land in the objective: get laid! If the fisherman’s game is not played properly, the tryst falls apart. But as this game is being played, one or both parties have to transcend the boundaries of what many people would consider unwanted sexual advances. So this fishing-for-sex game puts the players in a dangerous position as they are figuring out how negotiate with someone for a sexual encounter. The promiscuous can now face consequences: after a certain threshold has been crossed, the prospect can turn a fishing trip into a police charge.

Another angle to this social promiscuity is that some players are fairly direct in their approach. They are either misreading the signals that allow them to take their potential conquest to the next level of negotiation or are just playing a numbers game, knowing that their direct advances sometimes work. For example, a hand on the knee under the table will quickly establish if a potential partner is ready for more action. If the hand is removed, the offending partner knows the game is off—and can move to another prospect. But today, that hand can land the player in a lot of trouble.

While the sociological reports I encountered seem to indicate that poverty and youth enhances promiscuity, all demographic groups have members who are promiscuous. It’s safe to say that that 10% of avid supporters of the MeToo movement are also promiscuous—and are playing a game that is somewhat counter to their message.

So how do promiscuous players play their game in the age of MeToo?

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TDGonDP said:

I can't exactly follow what you and Blarg are arguing over, but this post has some merit of further discussion.

I would say that we need to de-emphasize the role of sex in our life. There are more important things to worry about. However, I would say that this is much easier said than done. And, rightly or wrongly, some people have a much stronger libido than others.

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TDGonDP said:

So how do promiscuous players play their game in the age of MeToo?

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Hawkeye10 said:

are clamping down hard on sexual freedom and in fact erotic expression generally

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Hawkeye10 said:

Those who are sexually promiscuous are increasingly Slut Shamed.

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Bodhisattva said:

The point is that crossing the MeToo line of what is appropriate and they cry rape or sexual assault does not make it so...

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MrWonka said:

Where exactly does someone get these ridiculous ideas stuck in their head? The nonsense here is staggering.

Contrary to popular belief among idiot men, women actually do enjoy sex. They just want to choose who they're having it with. Get a Tinder profile. Better yet, a bumble profile. It's really not that ****ing complicated. Take care of yourself. Learn how to dress. Put some effort into your appearance and clean your apartment once in a while.

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Ouroboros said:

Case in point: last week Ben Shapiro referenced a college case in which a young man and woman met in a room and made out in utterly consensual manner for a while. But then the woman called it "assault" later.

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TDGonDP said:

You are missing the point.

With the MeToo movement, any point in the fishing-for-sex game can be changed into a sexual harassment charge. And any consensual sex can later be claimed to be rape. It seems to me that players are playing with more fire than they used to.

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Hawkeye10 said:

I demand to be treated better than this.

If you improve get back to me.

:bon_voyag

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TDGonDP said:

From the sociological reports I’ve encountered over the years, it seems that about 10% of citizens in western societies are sexually promiscuous. They have sex with more than one partner within a time period of around one year. This means, and contrary to popular culture, 90% of us are monogamous or celibate.

The MeToo movement brings a challenge the promiscuous. In order for a casual sexual tryst to happen, both parties need to play the part of a fisherman: appropriate fishing location, appropriate lure, appropriate hook, and skillful play of the fishing line are all needed to land in the objective: get laid! If the fisherman’s game is not played properly, the tryst falls apart. But as this game is being played, one or both parties have to transcend the boundaries of what many people would consider unwanted sexual advances. So this fishing-for-sex game puts the players in a dangerous position as they are figuring out how negotiate with someone for a sexual encounter. The promiscuous can now face consequences: after a certain threshold has been crossed, the prospect can turn a fishing trip into a police charge.

Another angle to this social promiscuity is that some players are fairly direct in their approach. They are either misreading the signals that allow them to take their potential conquest to the next level of negotiation or are just playing a numbers game, knowing that their direct advances sometimes work. For example, a hand on the knee under the table will quickly establish if a potential partner is ready for more action. If the hand is removed, the offending partner knows the game is off—and can move to another prospect. But today, that hand can land the player in a lot of trouble.

While the sociological reports I encountered seem to indicate that poverty and youth enhances promiscuity, all demographic groups have members who are promiscuous. It’s safe to say that that 10% of avid supporters of the MeToo movement are also promiscuous—and are playing a game that is somewhat counter to their message.

So how do promiscuous players play their game in the age of MeToo?

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TDGonDP said:

From the sociological reports I’ve encountered over the years, it seems that about 10% of citizens in western societies are sexually promiscuous. They have sex with more than one partner within a time period of around one year. This means, and contrary to popular culture, 90% of us are monogamous or celibate.

The MeToo movement brings a challenge the promiscuous. In order for a casual sexual tryst to happen, both parties need to play the part of a fisherman: appropriate fishing location, appropriate lure, appropriate hook, and skillful play of the fishing line are all needed to land in the objective: get laid! If the fisherman’s game is not played properly, the tryst falls apart. But as this game is being played, one or both parties have to transcend the boundaries of what many people would consider unwanted sexual advances. So this fishing-for-sex game puts the players in a dangerous position as they are figuring out how negotiate with someone for a sexual encounter. The promiscuous can now face consequences: after a certain threshold has been crossed, the prospect can turn a fishing trip into a police charge.

Another angle to this social promiscuity is that some players are fairly direct in their approach. They are either misreading the signals that allow them to take their potential conquest to the next level of negotiation or are just playing a numbers game, knowing that their direct advances sometimes work. For example, a hand on the knee under the table will quickly establish if a potential partner is ready for more action. If the hand is removed, the offending partner knows the game is off—and can move to another prospect. But today, that hand can land the player in a lot of trouble.

While the sociological reports I encountered seem to indicate that poverty and youth enhances promiscuity, all demographic groups have members who are promiscuous. It’s safe to say that that 10% of avid supporters of the MeToo movement are also promiscuous—and are playing a game that is somewhat counter to their message.

So how do promiscuous players play their game in the age of MeToo?

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TDGonDP said:

I had in my mind a skit. A young man and young woman are sitting in a bar. They have developed a certain attraction for each other, and start the game. Before the game gets to too far, the man pulls out a contract and asks her to sign here. The woman has some questions. The man says: "this is a release clause because I am going to make a sexual advance on you. But before I do, I need your permission." The pair get into an interesting dialogue, and the woman too has her own contract for him to sign. Then they start negotiating new terms.

Then they call their lawyers into the bar. The four start negotiating the nature of the sexual advances. But in the meantime, the two lawyers start getting sexually attracted to each other. They start flirting, then making out---without any contract.

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trblmkr said:

I'm am sorry for you that you never got be a slut. (Male or female isn't relative. Those of us who were very active can be called sluts, I/we don't care). We had fun. And since I/we are talking about consensual sex, we don't need to explain anything to anyone. Especially you. I say you because you are worried about being accused of something. If you knew anything about anything, you would know that you don't have to be worried if you don't do anything to be worried about.

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