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[W:585:651]]Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
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Agent J, those three things will never happen. So you are wrong again, since I never picked C. And as usual, you are caught again lying. And it's true. You can't answer my three questions honestly. Every time I ask, you flunk out every single time. So I have to ask you again.

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

Prove that these statements are wrong and I will concede. I am waiting. These are not hard questions.
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LMAO so you choose C AGAIN!!!! awesome!!!! another fail!


YOU made claims, YOU cant back them up and they were proved wrong . .

so . . there is nothing else that is going to happen besides these 3 things


A.) Support your claims with facts that make them true (we already know this cant be done)
B.) Post with honesty and integrity, admit how factually uneducated you are on this topic and that your claims have been prove wrong multiple times by multiple people, links, definitions, facts, the CDC, WHO, the APA and NCBI
C.) Continue to dodge, deny, deflect, lie and or run away while we continue to mock your false claims and destroy them with facts

Please pick one, thanks!
either way the facts remains the same and all your post have gotten the **** kicked out of them

Facts

Transgender =/= delusion
gender =/= binary
gender =/= sex
sexual orientation =/= sex =/= gender
gay =/= transgender
SRS =/= mutilation


https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx
https://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

AGENT J said:
LMAO so you choose C AGAIN!!!! awesome!!!! another fail!


YOU made claims, YOU cant back them up and they were proved wrong . .

so . . there is nothing else that is going to happen besides these 3 things


A.) Support your claims with facts that make them true (we already know this cant be done)
B.) Post with honesty and integrity, admit how factually uneducated you are on this topic and that your claims have been prove wrong multiple times by multiple people, links, definitions, facts, the CDC, WHO, the APA and NCBI
C.) Continue to dodge, deny, deflect, lie and or run away while we continue to mock your false claims and destroy them with facts

Please pick one, thanks!
either way the facts remains the same and all your post have gotten the **** kicked out of them

Facts

Transgender =/= delusion
gender =/= binary
gender =/= sex
sexual orientation =/= sex =/= gender
gay =/= transgender
SRS =/= mutilation


https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx
https://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
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I know what your problem is. You're caught between the truth, and your lies and thus you have turned into a jellyfish.
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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
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I know what your problem is. You're caught between the truth, and your lies and thus you have turned into a jellyfish.
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C again!!!!!! Awesome!!! :lamo

ill just expose your lies one at a time. . . .

RamFel said:
Wrong. Gays do equal transgender
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wrong
Gay=/=Transgender

we are waiting for you to support you lie or monumental ignorance, thanks!
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

AGENT J said:
C again!!!!!! Awesome!!! :lamo

ill just expose your lies one at a time. . . .



wrong
Gay=/=Transgender

we are waiting for you to support you lie or monumental ignorance, thanks!
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Its no use, Agent J.F. You lost by chickening out and running away from three simple questions.

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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
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Its no use, Agent J.F. You lost by chickening out and running away from three simple questions.

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aaaaand another dodge for all to see. I love you keep picking C. Thats what I thought LMAO
So ill just ask and expose you AGAIN

RamFel said:
Wrong. Gays do equal transgender
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all you gotta do is prove being transgender equal s being gay . . . we are waiting, thanks! :)
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

AGENT J said:
aaaaand another dodge for all to see. I love you keep picking C. Thats what I thought LMAO
So ill just ask and expose you AGAIN



all you gotta do is prove being transgender equal s being gay . . . we are waiting, thanks! :)
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False bravado won't work here. How does it feel being a chicken? Yeah, being a chicken is no fun, is it?
If I make zero rules here, then YOU MOST CERTAINLY make ZERO RULES here as well, so just answer my questions first before asking me to go first.

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

Prove that these statements are wrong and I will concede. I am waiting
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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
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False bravado won't work here. How does it feel being a chicken? Yeah, being a chicken is no fun, is it?
If I make zero rules here, then YOU MOST CERTAINLY make ZERO RULES here as well, so just answer my questions first before asking me to go first.

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

Prove that these statements are wrong and I will concede. I am waiting
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aaaaand another dodge for all to see. I love you keep pickign C. Thats what I thought LMAO
So ill just ask and expose your lies AGAIN

RamFel said:
Wrong. Gays do equal transgender
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all you gotta do is prove being transgender equal s being gay . . . we are waiting, thanks! :)
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

AGENT J said:
aaaaand another dodge for all to see. I love you keep pickign C. Thats what I thought LMAO
So ill just ask and expose your lies AGAIN



all you gotta do is prove being transgender equal s being gay . . . we are waiting, thanks! :)
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Wrong Chicken. I already answerd first, and a fat lot of good it did me. Why do you lie so much, Chicken ?
I will tell you why. Because you are a coward and you know that you just dont have answers. Am I right. Sure I am.

No answers is no excuse. Jokes don't count as answers. You are required to answer.

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

Prove that these statements are wrong and I will concede. I am waiting.
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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
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Wrong Chicken. I already answerd first, and a fat lot of good it did me. Why do you lie so much, Chicken ?
I will tell you why. Because you are a coward and you know that you just dont have answers. Am I right. Sure I am.

No answers is no excuse. Jokes don't count as answers. You are required to answer.

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

Prove that these statements are wrong and I will concede. I am waiting.
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I see you continue to pick C LMAO while ill just continue to quote you and ask you to prove the lie you posted
RamFel said:
Wrong. Gays do equal transgender
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the dictionary, facts, the APA, The CDC, WHO and medical science all disagree with tour claim . .

SO we are waiting, please post one fact that supports your claim and makes it true . . . one. Thanks!y . . .
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

AGENT J said:
I see you continue to pick C LMAO while ill just continue to quote you and ask you to prove the lie you posted

the dictionary, facts, the APA, The CDC, WHO and medical science all disagree with tour claim . .

SO we are waiting, please post one fact that supports your claim and makes it true . . . one. Thanks!y . . .
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Are you too afraid to answer questions?

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

I'm waiting....
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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
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Are you too afraid to answer questions?

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

I'm waiting....
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that will never work your questions have already been factually answered with the links i gave you many times many posts ago

now back to the topic, heres your quote:
RamFel said:
Wrong. Gays do equal transgender
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the dictionary, facts, the APA, The CDC, WHO and medical science all disagree with tour claim . . so simply please post ONE fact that supports you, thanks!
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

AGENT J said:
that will never work your questions have already been factually answered with the links i gave you many times many posts ago

now back to the topic, heres your quote:

the dictionary, facts, the APA, The CDC, WHO and medical science all disagree with tour claim . . so simply please post ONE fact that supports you, thanks!
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That sounds like an admission of failure. Thank you for coming around and I hereby accept your admission.
You can still save your self by just admitting that you lied and just admit what every thinking person knows to be true.
Admit that my questions have NEVER been factually answered. Answer the questions below with as much honesty and truth as you can.

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
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That sounds like an admission of failure. Thank you for coming around and I hereby accept your admission.
You can still save your self by just admitting that you lied and just admit what every thinking person knows to be true.
Admit that my questions have NEVER been factually answered. Answer the questions below with as much honesty and truth as you can.

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

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LMAO that will never work your questions have already been factually answered with the links i gave you many times many posts ago

now back to the topic, heres your quote:
RamFel said:
Wrong. Gays do equal transgender
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the dictionary, facts, the APA, The CDC, WHO and medical science all disagree with tour claim . . so simply please post ONE fact that supports you, thanks!
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

AGENT J said:
LMAO that will never work your questions have already been factually answered with the links i gave you many times many posts ago

now back to the topic, heres your quote:

the dictionary, facts, the APA, The CDC, WHO and medical science all disagree with tour claim . . so simply please post ONE fact that supports you, thanks!
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Then here's what I must do since I cannot get you to tell the truth. Your answers, which I have read earlier, are wrong. Since I have done everything correctly at your request, and they are right. Sorry but you fail.
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
Then here's what I must do since I cannot get you to tell the truth. Your answers, which I have read earlier, are wrong. Since I have done everything correctly at your request, and they are right. Sorry but you fail.
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LMAO that will never work your questions have already been factually answered with the links i gave you many times many posts ago

now back to the topic, heres your quote:
RamFel said:
Wrong. Gays do equal transgender
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the dictionary, facts, the APA, The CDC, WHO and medical science all disagree with tour claim . . so simply please post ONE fact that supports you, thanks!
 
Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

Anarchon said:
The below came from her interview...
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I would take a neuroscientist or genetic scientist in consideration. But what does a pediatric doctor know about being a transgender. They are not sure what causes someone gender dysphoria. But it’s either neurological or genetic. Here is a link to a group that is actually doing relevant research on the subject. Transgender Women's Brains Differ From Cisgender People's In An Area Related To Self-Perception | IFLScience


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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

RamFel said:
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That sounds like an admission of failure. Thank you for coming around and I hereby accept your admission.
You can still save your self by just admitting that you lied and just admit what every thinking person knows to be true.
Admit that my questions have NEVER been factually answered. Answer the questions below with as much honesty and truth as you can.

1) No man can change his sex from male to female. If he changes his sex, he is still a male. He may look female but he is not truly a female.
2) No man can change his sex, and make babies. Why not? Because he is not a woman, but a man.
3) No woman can change her sex from female to male, even if she does, she is still a woman.

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What about intersex people. What gender are they.


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babykat said:
what about intersex people. What gender are they.




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that depends on what a intersex is.
 
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Babykat said:
I would take a neuroscientist or genetic scientist in consideration. But what does a pediatric doctor know about being a transgender. They are not sure what causes someone gender dysphoria. But it’s either neurological or genetic. Here is a link to a group that is actually doing relevant research on the subject. Transgender Women's Brains Differ From Cisgender People's In An Area Related To Self-Perception | IFLScience


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This part of the discussion gets kind of messy. And I will explain why. I don't know how much of this is coming from ideology or science but I have my suspicions.

we hear a lot of the time that gender is a completely social construct, if that's the case then there cannot be any biological cause for gender dysphoria because there can't be a biological cause for a sociological phenomenon such as gender dysphoria.

Here's where it really gets messy. And it all has to do with what gender means. The people that say it's a social construct tend to think it means gender roles, meaning women wear pink boys play with trucks and so on. Why this is an issue is because a girl can be feminine and still play with trucks she's not transgender just because she bucks conventional gender roles. I would just call her a free spirit wear is some of their people might call her a non-conformist.

The soda gender has to be more than just roles. I believe gender roles are a social construct but I don't believe gender is. That being said that supports my belief that gender dysphoria possibly has some neuro chemical and biological causes or origins at the very least.

I know this may not be a very popular thing to say and I don't mean you any disrespect saying, but I think the people doing the most damage to any possibility of studying and understanding this are the transtrenders. and I'm not talking about the people that want to switch back and forth between identifying as male or female are non-binary or whatever they call that. I'm talking about the people that are not transgender they identified as female or male along with their biological sex what they want to have a "queer" (their words not mine) title.

To me this is using gender or more specifically transgenderism witches a source of a lot of pain for a lot of people as a fashion accessory.

And for some reason a lot of people can't distinguish these gender fashionistas from true transgender people.

I think the concept is very new and like it or not there is quite a bit of nuance within it as well.

Sorry I'm rambling. It must be the former psychology student in me but I find it very fascinating.
 
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Babykat said:
What about intersex people. What gender are they.


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I would say that intersex people depending on the actual condition could identify with either male or female or both.
They may not identify with either completely.

Take for instance Turner's syndrome, this is considered an intersex condition but it only affects females. It's chromosomal, so it's possible it has hereditary underpinnings but it is a genetic anomaly.

But I'm okay with a person who was born male identifying as female or vice versa, so an intersex person doing either one of those is less of a concern.

It seems odd to say that but I guess there's enough people that concern themselves so deeply with what other people do.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
This part of the discussion gets kind of messy. And I will explain why. I don't know how much of this is coming from ideology or science but I have my suspicions.

we hear a lot of the time that gender is a completely social construct, if that's the case then there cannot be any biological cause for gender dysphoria because there can't be a biological cause for a sociological phenomenon such as gender dysphoria.

Here's where it really gets messy. And it all has to do with what gender means. The people that say it's a social construct tend to think it means gender roles, meaning women wear pink boys play with trucks and so on. Why this is an issue is because a girl can be feminine and still play with trucks she's not transgender just because she bucks conventional gender roles. I would just call her a free spirit wear is some of their people might call her a non-conformist.

The soda gender has to be more than just roles. I believe gender roles are a social construct but I don't believe gender is. That being said that supports my belief that gender dysphoria possibly has some neuro chemical and biological causes or origins at the very least.

I know this may not be a very popular thing to say and I don't mean you any disrespect saying, but I think the people doing the most damage to any possibility of studying and understanding this are the transtrenders. and I'm not talking about the people that want to switch back and forth between identifying as male or female are non-binary or whatever they call that. I'm talking about the people that are not transgender they identified as female or male along with their biological sex what they want to have a "queer" (their words not mine) title.

To me this is using gender or more specifically transgenderism witches a source of a lot of pain for a lot of people as a fashion accessory.

And for some reason a lot of people can't distinguish these gender fashionistas from true transgender people.

I think the concept is very new and like it or not there is quite a bit of nuance within it as well.

Sorry I'm rambling. It must be the former psychology student in me but I find it very fascinating.
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I have personal known multiple generation of transgenders within the same family trees. Which leads me to believe there is some form of genetic component to it as well.


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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

CLAX1911 said:
I would say that intersex people depending on the actual condition could identify with either male or female or both.
They may not identify with either completely.

Take for instance Turner's syndrome, this is considered an intersex condition but it only affects females. It's chromosomal, so it's possible it has hereditary underpinnings but it is a genetic anomaly.

But I'm okay with a person who was born male identifying as female or vice versa, so an intersex person doing either one of those is less of a concern.

It seems odd to say that but I guess there's enough people that concern themselves so deeply with what other people do.
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My point in asking that question is if it’s possible for a person be born with both or some variation of both. Isn’t also possible someone could be born with a mind that process information more like the opposite sex. People claim that males and females think the same way. That’s just not true. Even before a person understands gender roles they act differently. Even as babies they act differently. Not one way is better then the other. Just different.


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Re: Doctor's Viewpoint on Being Transgender

Babykat said:
I have personal known multiple generation of transgenders within the same family trees. Which leads me to believe there is some form of genetic component to it as well.


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But you understand my point? If gender is completely a social construct, meaning removed from biology there can be no biological origins.
 
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