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How can love be wrong? [W:713]

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While surfing the TV channels yesterday, I came across Ellen, whose show I never watch.

She was showing a video of her and Portia vacationing on an island in the Pacific Ocean.

I forgot her political views (with which I disagree) when her gentle humor and apparent genuine love for Portia touched my heart.


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I find it so sad there are some people who would verbally or legally or even physically attack two women (or two men) who are fortunate enough to find their true love.
 
Re: How can love be wrong?

While surfing the TV channels yesterday, I came across Ellen, whose show I never watch.

She was showing a video of her and Portia vacationing on an island in the Pacific Ocean.

I forgot her political views (with which I disagree) when her gentle humor and apparent genuine love for Portia touched my heart.


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I find it so sad there are some people who would verbally or legally or even physically attack two women (or two men) who are fortunate enough to find their true love.

That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
 
Re: How can love be wrong?

While surfing the TV channels yesterday, I came across Ellen, whose show I never watch.

She was showing a video of her and Portia vacationing on an island in the Pacific Ocean.

I forgot her political views (with which I disagree) when her gentle humor and apparent genuine love for Portia touched my heart.


*****

I find it so sad there are some people who would verbally or legally or even physically attack two women (or two men) who are fortunate enough to find their true love.

Because some people, as post #2 will show, are bigoted fools, that have mindsets stuck in the 1950's. Thankfully, those people are dying out, and more and more are accepting LGBT people.
 
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Because some people, as post #2 will show, are bigoted fools, that have mindsets stuck in the 1950's. Thankfully, those people are dying out, and more and more are accepting LGBT people.

Who, exactly, are dying out?

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This modernist ideology that you're pushing is deadly. These are the results.
 
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While surfing the TV channels yesterday, I came across Ellen, whose show I never watch.

She was showing a video of her and Portia vacationing on an island in the Pacific Ocean.

I forgot her political views (with which I disagree) when her gentle humor and apparent genuine love for Portia touched my heart.


*****

I find it so sad there are some people who would verbally or legally or even physically attack two women (or two men) who are fortunate enough to find their true love.

To your thread title question: Between two consenting adults? I have no idea. I find it rather stupid to even care about two people of the same sex loving each other. Live and let live. As long as their happy with each other then nothing else should matter.
 
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That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.

If pumping out babies is "one of Humanity's highest aims" then it doesn't seem like Humanity is aiming much higher than its crotch.
 
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If pumping out babies is "one of Humanity's highest aims" then it doesn't seem like Humanity is aiming much higher than its crotch.
Creating and raising new life is one of the most selfless acts you can engage in. Talk to some parents and find out.

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To your thread title question: Between two consenting adults? I have no idea. I find it rather stupid to even care about two people of the same sex loving each other. Live and let live. As long as their happy with each other then nothing else should matter.
This libertine attitude has given rise to people who are alienated and chase after fleeting pleasures. There are no higher aspirations and no sense of duty. Has this made the world better? Given our society's addiction to anti depressants and suicide rates, I don't see how you can say yes.

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That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.

This libertine attitude has given rise to people who are alienated and chase after fleeting pleasures. There are no higher aspirations and no sense of duty. Has this made the world better? Given our society's addiction to anti depressants and suicide rates, I don't see how you can say yes.

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1: How would you know what they feel is fleeting? You don't.

2: Suicide has many reasons and causes. Tying it to homosexuality is showing a vast ignorance on the issue.
 
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1: How would you know what they feel is fleeting? You don't.

2: Suicide has many reasons and causes. Tying it to homosexuality is showing a vast ignorance on the issue.
1. Homosexual sex is by nature not going to be procreative. Without pleasure, they're not going to engage in it. It's fleeting.

2. I'm not tying it to just homosexuality. I'm tying it to hedonism in general.

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That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.

That odd complusion you have to immediately and utterly out of context ascribe everything to genitals isn't rational. It bespeaks a certain obsession, and a very unhealthy one.

Oh, wait. You've publically admitted here that you've never had a blowjob.

Nevermind.
 
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1. Homosexual sex is by nature not going to be procreative. Without pleasure, they're not going to engage in it. It's fleeting.

Life is about far more than procreation. If there were only about 10,000 people on the entire planet then you MIGHT have reason to worry. With 7 billion plus however you have nothing. Though even if there were only 10,000 people left on the planet you still wouldn't have anything for the simple fact that homosexuals can still procreate. They are not sterile. Artificial insemination, sex with someone of the opposite sex until pregnant... both of those are quite possible (and does happen) even if a homosexual loves someone of the same sex. So all in all you have nothing.

2. I'm not tying it to just homosexuality. I'm tying it to hedonism in general.

:roll: God forbid that people actually enjoy themselves in life. Everyone must always feel horrible!

Garbage.
 
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That odd complusion you have to immediately and utterly out of context ascribe everything to genitals isn't rational. It bespeaks a certain obsession, and a very unhealthy one.

It isn't? We're talking about homosexual sex. Why would I not bring up genitals?

Oh, wait. You've publically admitted here that you've never had a blowjob.

Nevermind.

Why are you always bringing up sodomy?
 
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Life is about far more than procreation. If there were only about 10,000 people on the entire planet then you MIGHT have reason to worry. With 7 billion plus however you have nothing. Though even if there were only 10,000 people left on the planet you still wouldn't have anything for the simple fact that homosexuals can still procreate. They are not sterile. Artificial insemination, sex with someone of the opposite sex until pregnant... both of those are quite possible (and does happen) even if a homosexual loves someone of the same sex. So all in all you have nothing.

So their options are a very unnatural way to give birth, or infidelity and leaving a child an unstable home. These are good options?

:roll: God forbid that people actually enjoy themselves in life. Everyone must always feel horrible!

Garbage.

Let's just give people a morphine drip to make them feel good until they die. Because hey, life is nothing but pleasure, so why not?
 
Re: How can love be wrong?

That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.

What makes you think they dont feel both?

And there's nothing wrong with lust...it does promote the intimacy and bonding in a relationship.
 
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It isn't? We're talking about homosexual sex. Why would I not bring up genitals?

No, YOU are. The OP never mentioned anything sexual or anything about genitals.

That's your projection.
Why are you always bringing up sodomy?

Why are you afraid of oral sex? That's a much more interesting topic than two women taking a vacation together and you hating them for it.
 
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Life is about far more than procreation. If there were only about 10,000 people on the entire planet then you MIGHT have reason to worry. With 7 billion plus however you have nothing. Though even if there were only 10,000 people left on the planet you still wouldn't have anything for the simple fact that homosexuals can still procreate. They are not sterile. Artificial insemination, sex with someone of the opposite sex until pregnant... both of those are quite possible (and does happen) even if a homosexual loves someone of the same sex. So all in all you have nothing.



:roll: God forbid that people actually enjoy themselves in life. Everyone must always feel horrible!

Garbage.

But, but, but, but, but, but......

TEH GEHYS!!!!!
 
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Creating and raising new life is one of the most selfless acts you can engage in. Talk to some parents and find out.

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Not necessarily. I have seen couples decide to have a baby for the purpose of trying to "save" their marriage, as well as one of those "full quiver" couples who basically have as many babies as possible in order to spread their religion.
 
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a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years.

And then give them up, or get arrested and lose them, or do drugs and lose them. Etc etc

There are over 100,000 available for adoption in the US...we dont need more kids being born. We need people to adopt the ones waiting in limbo for homes. And finally, FINALLY, the family courts and family services are behind enabling gay couples to adopt and provide these much-needed homes.

Gays want kids, families, as much as straight couples...and they often have to fight even harder to have them. Some have bio kids from earlier relationships but others go thru great time and expense to do surrogacy, IVF, and adoption.

And there is no data that shows their kids grow up with any disadvantages compared with those raised by straight couples.
 
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If pumping out babies is "one of Humanity's highest aims" then it doesn't seem like Humanity is aiming much higher than its crotch.

No kidding. Even the lowest life forms reproduce!

It's not a skill and it's not a "calling."
 
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So their options are a very unnatural way to give birth, or infidelity and leaving a child an unstable home. These are good options?

Bold: Who cares that its not "natural"? As long as a child results then it shouldn't matter as the perpetuation of the species is assured.

Rest: Sorry but since this kind of thing does actually happen and there have been no negative effects of it then you are barking up the wrong tree on this one.

Let's just give people a morphine drip to make them feel good until they die. Because hey, life is nothing but pleasure, so why not?

Except that no one claimed that life was all about feeling good. But it sure as hell is about more than just procreation.
 
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What makes you think they dont feel both?

Because there is no procreative aspect to it.

And there's nothing wrong with lust...it does promote the intimacy and bonding in a relationship.

Sure there is. Do you think you can build a stable home for your children by chasing your own selfish desires? Do you not think it higher to seek after the good of your spouse and children? Do you think that you can successfully raise a child when you're interested in your own aspirations?
 
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No, YOU are. The OP never mentioned anything sexual or anything about genitals.

That's your projection.

What do you think homosexual couples do? Just gab all day?

Why are you afraid of oral sex? That's a much more interesting topic than two women taking a vacation together and you hating them for it.

Oh please. Yeah, and cohabitating couples are just living together. They're not having sex.
 
Re: How can love be wrong?

That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.

The OP was about love. You are trying to say that gays can only have a sexual relationship and cannot experience romantic love. That's a pile of arrogance and ignorance.:twocents:
 
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This libertine attitude has given rise to people who are alienated and chase after fleeting pleasures. There are no higher aspirations and no sense of duty. Has this made the world better? Given our society's addiction to anti depressants and suicide rates, I don't see how you can say yes.

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Are you kidding? Males chase after sex their entire lives, from puberty on. Gay or straight. And they only stop chasing it when they marry or are in a committed relationship...IF then. It has nothing to do with encouraging suicide and depression, except in the mal-adapted incels who use it as an excuse for their own social ineptness.
 
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