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The difference between MGTOW and Incels

SDET

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MGTOW is mostly divorced men that got ripped off by an opportunistic turd that cashed out her marriage. Some are sons who watched their dad get ripped off. Some have gone into "monk mode", but most still have SHORT TERM relationships with women and are focused on not letting women drain their wallet.



An incel is described as a "failed mangina". A guy that thinks being a pushover will get him laid, then reality smacks him in the face. MGTOW men suggest that the way to address an incel is to teach him that wanting "female validation" is a path to endless frustration.

 
Both groups are a bunch of entitled brats who think they have a right to get laid. They need to grow up and learn how to be decent men for a change.
 
It can't always be the other persons fault, one has to take responsibility for their own end of things, and take those lessons to the next relationship. If you're not able to that, you'll end up being a lonely asshole/bitch that nobody wants to be with because you're too immature.

That goes for men and women.
 
Phys251 said:
Both groups are a bunch of entitled brats who think they have a right to get laid. They need to grow up and learn how to be decent men for a change.
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I agree but that's also true of many young women in America today.

Bottom line: if you want to get some vagina or penis, you have to earn it just as much as the other person.
 
MovingPictures said:
It can't always be the other persons fault, one has to take responsibility for their own end of things, and take those lessons to the next relationship. If you're not able to that, you'll end up being a lonely asshole/bitch that nobody wants to be with because you're too immature.

That goes for men and women.
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One way a man can take responsibility is to be mindful that women can use their body to weasel money out of a man.
 
SDET said:
One way a man can take responsibility is to be mindful that women can use their body to weasel money out of a man.
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Yes, which is why you don't give her your penis without her working for it.
 
All's fair in love and war. Grow the hell up, and deal with it. If you don't like the way the game is going, become a better player.
 
Chomsky said:
All's fair in love and war. Grow the hell up, and deal with it. If you don't like the way the game is going, become a better player.
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Better still, don't play the games.

If you just want some casual romance and sex, you better be ready for that to go both ways. If you're with somebody that's immature or abusive, then leave them behind and move to better pastures.
 
Both are just angry misogynists.
 
MovingPictures said:
Better still, don't play the games.

If you just want some casual romance and sex, you better be ready for that to go both ways. If you're with somebody that's immature or abusive, then leave them behind and move to better pastures.
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I wasn't referring to "playing games". I was commenting on, "playing the game".

We don't have much choice in the latter, unless we want to sit-by on the sidelines of life ...
 
Chomsky said:
All's fair in love and war. Grow the hell up, and deal with it. If you don't like the way the game is going, become a better player.
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Thank you. A lot of these MGTOW/Incel type never do any of self-reflection on their part.
 
TheGoverness said:
Thank you. A lot of these MGTOW/Incel type never do any of self-reflection on their part.
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My experience with the "women hating" crowd, for lack of better words, is virtually every one of them seems unbalanced in some way.

"Relating" to others is an innate emotional experience. You can only intellectualize and rationalize your way through it, so much. Eventually, you've got to use your emotional human experience. For some reason, some fall short in this area.

Trust me, if you think women don't like the company of "unrelatedable" guys, most men don't like them much either. They're usually the a-holes that get into a fight as the bar is closing (probably frustrated over not finding someone to relate to!).
 
SDET said:
One way a man can take responsibility is to be mindful that women can use their body to weasel money out of a man.
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Money well spent.
 
Chomsky said:
I wasn't referring to "playing games". I was commenting on, "playing the game".

We don't have much choice in the latter, unless we want to sit-by on the sidelines of life ...
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Much of the world doesn't "play the game". India with its arranged marriages comes to mind. Also, why play a game in a venue where 80% of men are treated like "leftovers"? I was annoyed back in my college days how difficult it was to get a girl. One of my professors laughed and said that if I went to India with him, he could have me a quality wife within a week. Marrying into Hinduism just wasn't my cup of curry.
 
SDET said:
Half your net worth is money well spent?
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lol...I've been married three times. So, I'm probably holding about the same amount I paid in taxes.
 
SDET said:
Half your net worth is money well spent?
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Well, if you so upset, and whiny about it, get a pre-nup.

Or, don't get married, and voluntarily take yourself out of the gene pool
 
SDET said:
Half your net worth is money well spent?
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Depends. Are we talking, like, Sandra Bullock levels of hotness? Marissa Tomie level hotness?
 
Dude, if you hate women so much, and have such little trust in them, then join the priesthood, or go gay. :peace
 
KevinKohler said:
Dude, if you hate women so much, and have such little trust in them, then join the priesthood, or go gay. :peace
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Aren't the two synonymous. Besides, why would I do that? Just use women for sex and only sex and let that be that.
 
SDET said:
Much of the world doesn't "play the game". India with its arranged marriages comes to mind. Also, why play a game in a venue where 80% of men are treated like "leftovers"? I was annoyed back in my college days how difficult it was to get a girl. One of my professors laughed and said that if I went to India with him, he could have me a quality wife within a week. Marrying into Hinduism just wasn't my cup of curry.
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Hey, we all have our desires and choices. I enjoyed dating ... a lot! So I remained single (and dating), for a very long time. If my marital status were to change, I'd be back out there in a heartbeat. Why not?
 
Phys251 said:
Both groups are a bunch of entitled brats who think they have a right to get laid. They need to grow up and learn how to be decent men for a change.
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SDET said:
MGTOW is mostly divorced men that got ripped off by an opportunistic turd that cashed out her marriage. Some are sons who watched their dad get ripped off. Some have gone into "monk mode", but most still have SHORT TERM relationships with women and are focused on not letting women drain their wallet.


An incel is described as a "failed mangina". A guy that thinks being a pushover will get him laid, then reality smacks him in the face. MGTOW men suggest that the way to address an incel is to teach him that wanting "female validation" is a path to endless frustration.
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Pick a woman for the wrong reasons (looks, submissive, uneducated, with few options or other skills so that she has to be dependent, doesnt think for herself, etc) then dont be surprised when she wakes up some day and decides she can do better. Or screw you over...sure there are bad people out there. Men and women. Shoulda gotten to know her better before marrying her.
 
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Chomsky said:
My experience with the "women hating" crowd, for lack of better words, is virtually every one of them seems unbalanced in some way.

"Relating" to others is an innate emotional experience. You can only intellectualize and rationalize your way through it, so much. Eventually, you've got to use your emotional human experience. For some reason, some fall short in this area.

Trust me, if you think women don't like the company of "unrelatedable" guys, most men don't like them much either. They're usually the a-holes that get into a fight as the bar is closing (probably frustrated over not finding someone to relate to!).
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Many in life have been 'low man on the totem pole' and find that there are women that they can have some power over. They can be master of at least somebody.

It's pretty much been written in other of the OP's threads, they want a good looking woman who puts out on demand, takes care of the home, and doesnt have an opinion and then should be grateful when the man comes home with a paycheck that he'll share with her 'as he sees fit.'
 
SDET said:
Aren't the two synonymous. Besides, why would I do that? Just use women for sex and only sex and let that be that.
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If you're honest about it, nothing wrong with that. Both people should just have the same expectations.

Oh wait...the women you want dont want to just sleep with you? Oh well. That's not their fault. It's yours.

If that is what you want, it's up to you to make it happen, not blame women for not being on the same page as you.
 
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