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Coming Out.

TheGoverness

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So, today has been pretty interesting. Got back a little while ago from dinner with one of my good high school friends. He decided to come out to me today (he's gay). He’s a quiet dude: reserved, doesn’t have many friends. But when you get to know him, he’s quite fun to be around, when he’s comfortable and can be himself. He was supportive of me and my GF when we both decided to finally kick the closet door wide open. Now, I’ve sorta had my suspicions, but I honestly didn’t know for sure. He hit me up today because he wanted to hang out with me later on (to which I happily agreed), and so we decided to get some dinner together. We were just gonna meet after I got off work. But when I was on break, he messaged me and asked me if he could swing by real quick and talk real quick about something. He showed up, and at first I was just kinda trying to be all casual and joke with him a bit. But his face was serious, so I stopped that real quick, and I got kind of concerned. It was practically hanging off the edge of his tongue, but he backed out. Said he’d just tell me whatever he had to tell me when I got off later. I didn’t want to pry so I just said ok. I was pretty worried, because I thought he might’ve gotten himself into some **** or something. Now, it’s not like he was afraid of what I’d say, obviously. It was really more about him finally coming to terms with who he is. So after work was over and I had gotten ready, I messaged him and he swung by and picked me up. He had parked into an empty parking lot, and we kind of sat there for a bit. The conflict was still visible on his face, which made me even more concerned than I already was. I just grabbed his hands and reassured him that whatever he needed to tell me, I would be there for him. That's what friends are for, right? And so he just went ahead and said it, and I instantly had the biggest smile pop up on my face.

I was screaming of joy; I cried too. And I practically squeezed him to death. I was so ****ing proud of him (and I still am). We were in that parking lot for a long while, and we just talked about it. I know some people might find that kind of insulting, to have a friend you’ve known for years finally reveal something like that to you, because it may seem like “Oh, this person didn’t think enough about me to tell me for so long”, but some people take a long time to come to terms with their sexuality. It’s like a back-and-forth battle, and it really sucks, especially if you grow up in an environment where that’s not really accepted. And once you come out of the closet; there is not just one time and then be done with it. You really never stop coming out of the closet in a sense. Because when you meet new people, you have to kind of feel them out, and kind of gauge whether or not they’d be comfortable with you being open about being gay/bisexual/etc. But my friend just needed to come to terms with himself on his own, and I really appreciated the fact that I was the first one he’s told so far. I’m happy I get to be there for someone with this, and even just writing about it now is making me teary-eyed. He was contemplating doing this for so long, and today the scale finally tipped to the other side.

Now, I’ve advised him not to tell his parents about it for the foreseeable future, because his parents are pretty homophobic, and they already don’t like the fact that we hang out sometimes to begin with. I was a bit too impulsive when I came out to my parents, and I ended up going through one of the worst periods of my life because of it. Sure in the end I’ve gotten my parents to accept it (mainly my mother, my father was never really all up in arms about it really), though I still have family who do not accept me for it. But not every situation is the same and I’m afraid they might try to kick him out or something if he does try to come out to them. But I didn’t want him to worry about that right now, as that will come later. So we went to dinner and had a good ****ing time.

But I want to pass it off to some of y’all: Do any of you have experiences where a good friend of yours came out to you? And if they did, how did you react?
 
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Not great, I felt like I had been slighted by being so late to know.
 
My friends didn't need to come out to me but when they did I was happy for them.
 
One of my co-workers came out when I worked at Harvard Medical School. Everyone was expected to go and not going would have caused a sour work environment for those who didn't. I bet that just thrills you. All will be made to care.
 
So, today has been pretty interesting. Got back a little while ago from dinner with one of my good high school friends. He decided to come out to me today (he's gay). He’s a quiet dude: reserved, doesn’t have many friends. But when you get to know him, he’s quite fun to be around, when he’s comfortable and can be himself. He was supportive of me and my GF when we both decided to finally kick the closet door wide open. Now, I’ve sorta had my suspicions, but I honestly didn’t know for sure. He hit me up today because he wanted to hang out with me later on (to which I happily agreed), and so we decided to get some dinner together. We were just gonna meet after I got off work. But when I was on break, he messaged me and asked me if he could swing by real quick and talk real quick about something. He showed up, and at first I was just kinda trying to be all casual and joke with him a bit. But his face was serious, so I stopped that real quick, and I got kind of concerned. It was practically hanging off the edge of his tongue, but he backed out. Said he’d just tell me whatever he had to tell me when I got off later. I didn’t want to pry so I just said ok. I was pretty worried, because I thought he might’ve gotten himself into some **** or something. Now, it’s not like he was afraid of what I’d say, obviously. It was really more about him finally coming to terms with who he is. So after work was over and I had gotten ready, I messaged him and he swung by and picked me up. He had parked into an empty parking lot, and we kind of sat there for a bit. The conflict was still visible on his face, which made me even more concerned than I already was. I just grabbed his hands and reassured him that whatever he needed to tell me, I would be there for him. That's what friends are for, right? And so he just went ahead and said it, and I instantly had the biggest smile pop up on my face.

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I never had anybody "come out" to me though I've had plenty make note that they're gay.

OK, here's something for you. Roughly 40 years ago my parents split up and Mom moved in with a woman. 30 years ago, or so, Mom and her partner split up and Mom moved in with another woman. Mom has never "come out" to me, probably because she has no idea how I'd handle it. I didn't handle it particularly well 40 years ago but I never blamed her for anything. It was just more than a little difficult for me to explain to friends that Mom is gay. Heck, even today it's not easy for me to wrap my head around. Mom has always been a GREAT mother and she's always been supportive. She's a great sounding board for nearly every issue but homosexuality is, generally speaking, not a subject we discuss.

Your post makes me wonder if, perhaps, I should be the one to break the ice on the subject with her. My instincts tell me that she'll open up if and when she feels the need so, out of respect for her, I don't go there. Bottom line, she knows that I don't harbor any ill will toward anyone due to their sexuality and, maybe, that's enough for both of us.
 
One of my co-workers came out when I worked at Harvard Medical School. Everyone was expected to go and not going would have caused a sour work environment for those who didn't. I bet that just thrills you. All will be made to care.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
 
I never had anybody "come out" to me though I've had plenty make note that they're gay.

OK, here's something for you. Roughly 40 years ago my parents split up and Mom moved in with a woman. 30 years ago, or so, Mom and her partner split up and Mom moved in with another woman. Mom has never "come out" to me, probably because she has no idea how I'd handle it. I didn't handle it particularly well 40 years ago but I never blamed her for anything. It was just more than a little difficult for me to explain to friends that Mom is gay. Heck, even today it's not easy for me to wrap my head around. Mom has always been a GREAT mother and she's always been supportive. She's a great sounding board for nearly every issue but homosexuality is, generally speaking, not a subject we discuss.

Your post makes me wonder if, perhaps, I should be the one to break the ice on the subject with her. My instincts tell me that she'll open up if and when she feels the need so, out of respect for her, I don't go there. Bottom line, she knows that I don't harbor any ill will toward anyone due to their sexuality and, maybe, that's enough for both of us.

Interesting situation. Thanks for sharing. :)

Well, I guess if she knows that you don't have any issue with her sexuality, then maybe that is enough.
 
Well, like I said, it takes time for a lot of people to come to terms with their sexuality.

Ya, but when folks figure it out they should tell their good pals, because when they dont it makes those pals wonder just how good of pals they are.

This was true for me decades ago, I would expect it to be even more true now....I did not want to hear "Well I was scared a little.."

This is me, I find that a little off putting to say the least.

:2wave:
 
Ya, but when folks figure it out they should tell their good pals, because when they dont it makes those pals wonder just how good of pals they are.

This was true for me decades ago, I would expect it to be even more true now....I did not want to hear "Well I was scared a little.."

I realise it can be hard to see something from someone else's perspective, but it's usually not all that easy to come out of the closet. Even to good friends.
 
I realise it can be hard to see something from someone else's perspective, but it's usually not all that easy to come out of the closet. Even to good friends.

Ya, I get that, but there is the other side, which is what you were asking after.....

You and I can talk honestly and directly.
 
Ya, I get that, but there is the other side, which is what you were asking after.....

You and I can talk honestly and directly.

Don't take it personally, is what I would say. Struggling with sexuality is a process: and sometimes people take longer than others to come to terms with who they are. Just be there to support them when they ask for a shoulder to lean on. :)
 
A good friend of mine came out to me years ago. One of the most pleasant surprises I ever got--I never pegged her as being bi. But to be fair, my gaydar is not well-tuned.

Former student of mine came out, what, about a year ago. She solicited some words of encouragement via that app that lets you send thoughts privately. I did.

And just as I'm typing this, I get onto FB, and lo and behold I see one of my old classmates there who was (at least to me) closeted throughout our childhoods.
 
A good friend of mine came out to me years ago. One of the most pleasant surprises I ever got--I never pegged her as being bi. But to be fair, my gaydar is not well-tuned.

Former student of mine came out, what, about a year ago. She solicited some words of encouragement via that app that lets you send thoughts privately. I did.

And just as I'm typing this, I get onto FB, and lo and behold I see one of my old classmates there who was (at least to me) closeted throughout our childhoods.

Sometimes it's hard to tell. :)
 
So, today has been pretty interesting. Got back a little while ago from dinner with one of my good high school friends. He decided to come out to me today (he's gay). He’s a quiet dude: reserved, doesn’t have many friends. But when you get to know him, he’s quite fun to be around, when he’s comfortable and can be himself. He was supportive of me and my GF when we both decided to finally kick the closet door wide open. Now, I’ve sorta had my suspicions, but I honestly didn’t know for sure. He hit me up today because he wanted to hang out with me later on (to which I happily agreed), and so we decided to get some dinner together. We were just gonna meet after I got off work. But when I was on break, he messaged me and asked me if he could swing by real quick and talk real quick about something. He showed up, and at first I was just kinda trying to be all casual and joke with him a bit. But his face was serious, so I stopped that real quick, and I got kind of concerned. It was practically hanging off the edge of his tongue, but he backed out. Said he’d just tell me whatever he had to tell me when I got off later. I didn’t want to pry so I just said ok. I was pretty worried, because I thought he might’ve gotten himself into some **** or something. Now, it’s not like he was afraid of what I’d say, obviously. It was really more about him finally coming to terms with who he is. So after work was over and I had gotten ready, I messaged him and he swung by and picked me up. He had parked into an empty parking lot, and we kind of sat there for a bit. The conflict was still visible on his face, which made me even more concerned than I already was. I just grabbed his hands and reassured him that whatever he needed to tell me, I would be there for him. That's what friends are for, right? And so he just went ahead and said it, and I instantly had the biggest smile pop up on my face.

I was screaming of joy; I cried too. And I practically squeezed him to death. I was so ****ing proud of him (and I still am). We were in that parking lot for a long while, and we just talked about it. I know some people might find that kind of insulting, to have a friend you’ve known for years finally reveal something like that to you, because it may seem like “Oh, this person didn’t think enough about me to tell me for so long”, but some people take a long time to come to terms with their sexuality. It’s like a back-and-forth battle, and it really sucks, especially if you grow up in an environment where that’s not really accepted. And once you come out of the closet; there is not just one time and then be done with it. You really never stop coming out of the closet in a sense. Because when you meet new people, you have to kind of feel them out, and kind of gauge whether or not they’d be comfortable with you being open about being gay/bisexual/etc. But my friend just needed to come to terms with himself on his own, and I really appreciated the fact that I was the first one he’s told so far. I’m happy I get to be there for someone with this, and even just writing about it now is making me teary-eyed. He was contemplating doing this for so long, and today the scale finally tipped to the other side.

Now, I’ve advised him not to tell his parents about it for the foreseeable future, because his parents are pretty homophobic, and they already don’t like the fact that we hang out sometimes to begin with. I was a bit too impulsive when I came out to my parents, and I ended up going through one of the worst periods of my life because of it. Sure in the end I’ve gotten my parents to accept it (mainly my mother, my father was never really all up in arms about it really), though I still have family who do not accept me for it. But not every situation is the same and I’m afraid they might try to kick him out or something if he does try to come out to them. But I didn’t want him to worry about that right now, as that will come later. So we went to dinner and had a good ****ing time.

But I want to pass it off to some of y’all: Do any of you have experiences where a good friend of yours came out to you? And if they did, how did you react?

Well it sounds like you are a good friend. he is lucky to have you.
 
One of my co-workers came out when I worked at Harvard Medical School. Everyone was expected to go and not going would have caused a sour work environment for those who didn't. I bet that just thrills you. All will be made to care.
go where?
 
Ya, but when folks figure it out they should tell their good pals, because when they dont it makes those pals wonder just how good of pals they are.
I get that but a lot of times people who are gay feel a lot of shame for it.

This was true for me decades ago, I would expect it to be even more true now....I did not want to hear "Well I was scared a little.."
what if they said "I had to come to terms with it myself."?

This is me, I find that a little off putting to say the least.

:2wave:
Keep in mind there is more to it than they just thinking you will hate them.
 
I get that but a lot of times people who are gay feel a lot of shame for it.

what if they said "I had to come to terms with it myself."?

Keep in mind there is more to it than they just thinking you will hate them.

We have been over this ground already.

Have you anything new to add?
 
I didn't see resolution nor did I see this part of the subject covered but alas if you don't want to address it then don't. it's okay.

I am here, talk to me buddy......

This is about Judy, who I spent a fair amount of time with (We lived together at Hedrick House, a Co-Op at Michigan State, I chose to live there because my did had and I was trying to please him) and who I spent 4 months trying to hook and she knew damn well I was trying and then she gives me "Oh, I'm a Dyke (this was 1985), I was afraid to tell you..."

**** you was pretty much my response.

If you dont like it, tough.
 
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I am here, talk to me buddy...…
Well I did, you didn't seem interested in what I had to say.

This is about Judy, who I spent a fair amount of time with (We lived together at Hedrick House, a Co-Op at Michigan State, I chose to live there because my did had and I was trying to please him) and who I spent 4 months trying to hook and she knew damn well I was trying and then she gives me "Oh, I'm a Dyke (this was 1984), I was afraid to tell you..."

**** you was pretty much my response.

If you dont like it, tough.
Clearly you weren't the friend to tell.
 
Well I did, you didn't seem interested in what I had to say.


Clearly you weren't the friend to tell.

Clearly she could have been more honest.....she could have been a better friend to me.....she let me do all those things I did, and she knew what I was all about because I was honest with her, but she could not return the favor.
 
Clearly she could have been more honest.
well she was.
....she could have been a better friend to me.....she let me do all those things I did, and she knew what I was all about because I was honest with her, but she could not return the favor.
Do you expect all your friends to be perfect and to be completely honest with you even about things they don't yet accept about themselves?


Do you tell your friends upon first meeting them all of your insecurities and deepest innermost feelings?
 
well she was. Do you expect all your friends to be perfect and to be completely honest with you even about things they don't yet accept about themselves?


Do you tell your friends upon first meeting them all of your insecurities and deepest innermost feelings?

Screw that, Judy let it be known that her HS sweetheart male was at Penn State whom she visited at Penn St between Freshman and sophomore years, she was rarely seen with men, after that once she understood that I fancied her and was working on wooing her she had an obligation to do some Truth Telling, which she failed at. Telling the truth is an important thing in this life. So is not being cruel. So is attempting to listen so I am not interested in any excuses that Judy did not know and should not have cared.
 
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