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Why is dine-n-dash OK for women but not men?

SDET said:
This has been a moot point for me for decades, except that my sons hit me up for money to pay for a date. In much of South America, it's assumed that the girl puts out if the guy pays for dinner in a nice place. I guess I'm OK financing my son's dates given that his girlfriend indeed puts out. Heck, she even bought him an expensive gift for his birthday.
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So men just expect to pay for sex in SA. Huh.

If they dont use force after dinner, then I guess women can use their judgement.

Here in NA, I think most men manage to get laid without paying for it.
 
SDET said:
This has been a moot point for me for decades, except that my sons hit me up for money to pay for a date. In much of South America, it's assumed that the girl puts out if the guy pays for dinner in a nice place. I guess I'm OK financing my son's dates given that his girlfriend indeed puts out. Heck, she even bought him an expensive gift for his birthday.
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Are you a hermit?
 
Lursa said:
So men just expect to pay for sex in SA. Huh.

If they dont use force after dinner, then I guess women can use their judgement.

Here in NA, I think most men manage to get laid without paying for it.
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Not that I know of. They are just raised to think that their worth is measured by ability to please a man. One time when we visited South America, when my youngest was about 10, a little 9 yr old kept chasing him around trying to kiss him saying she wanted to be his girlfriend. My wife had to remind him if he wasn't interested in her to get rid of her without being mean.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Oh, so the misses doesn't expect you to pay for dinner?
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I buy her dinner all they time, but she puts out almost any time I want!
 
Deuce said:
Because you think relationship is a transaction exchange where you get sex and women get... what, exactly?
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Disappointment.
 
Deuce said:
Because you think relationship is a transaction exchange where you get sex and women get... what, exactly?
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They get money being spent on them constantly. Whether it be in a relationship or something more vulgar, women are expensive!
 
SDET said:
Why? Men should at least wonder if they are being a sucker.
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It’s not “dine and dash” if there was never an expectation the woman owed anything for the food. These people think something WAS owed for the food, and it’s not money.

Because they’re dumb ****s who think sex is a Subway punch card where you are owed a free vagina sandwich after X amount of Doing Nice Things.
 
Well....when all else fails (which, for some of you, it must...a lot), you've always got your trust old hand. He'll never let you down, all he wants is to be washed after. Not a bad deal, really.
 
KevinKohler said:
Well....when all else fails (which, for some of you, it must...a lot), you've always got your trust old hand. He'll never let you down, all he wants is to be washed after. Not a bad deal, really.
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Hmm...can't say I've ever referred to it as a "he" before... lolz :lol:
 
Deuce said:
It’s not “dine and dash” if there was never an expectation the woman owed anything for the food. These people think something WAS owed for the food, and it’s not money.

Because they’re dumb ****s who think sex is a Subway punch card where you are owed a free vagina sandwich after X amount of Doing Nice Things.
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American women kinds of hint that such a thing is a possibility to weasel resources out of men. One of my first experiences to the contrary was when I met a South American when visiting my old Alma Mater. She was going back home for the Summer and was frustrated trying to get a good deal on a flight to Miami, over 1,000 miles away. I offered to drive her. She accepted. I started getting "touchy feely" with her. She wrote a do not disturb sign and thumb tacked it to her door in case her room mates returned. She was good to go. I took three days to make the trip and banged her like a rabbit every night. We had some interesting conversations. It turned out that she was a full-fledged hammer-and-sickle Communist. When she learned of my views, she laughed her head off. She then told me that she not only believed in financial egalitarianism, but also sexual. She said, "Congratulations, you're the recipient of a Communist handout."
 
KevinKohler said:
Well....when all else fails (which, for some of you, it must...a lot), you've always got your trust old hand. He'll never let you down, all he wants is to be washed after. Not a bad deal, really.
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Yep, as described in these classic (self satisfying) love songs...



 
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SDET said:
Not that I know of. They are just raised to think that their worth is measured by ability to please a man. .
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How sad that anyone should believe that their worth depends on what others think.

And men believe they'll only put out if they pay for it? That's what your post implied...if they didnt really pay for a nice dinner, they believed they wouldnt get laid.

Dont tell me...you're a big Tom Lykiss fan?

(btw, not sure which SA countries you mean but I know a bunch of Argentines (and a few Venezuelans) and those women do not think like that at all.)
 
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Lursa said:
How sad that anyone should believe that their worth depends on what others think.

And men believe they'll only put out if they pay for it? That's what your post implied...if they didnt really pay for a nice dinner, they believed they wouldnt get laid.

Dont tell me...you're a big Tom Lykiss fan?

(btw, not sure which SA countries you mean but I know a bunch of Argentines (and a few Venezuelans) and those women do not think like that at all.)
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I listen to several youtube MGTOW content providers and some do add excerpts of Tom Leykis. My views and experiences started before the internet was popular. I'm not mentioning specific countries because I don't want cultural Marxists finding out where I am and slashing my tires. Lefties are a tolerant lot.

Your acquaintances are probably:
1) Urban
2) English speaking
3) Americanized
4) Have a college degree
 
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Lursa said:
How sad that anyone should believe that their worth depends on what others think.

And men believe they'll only put out if they pay for it? That's what your post implied...if they didnt really pay for a nice dinner, they believed they wouldnt get laid.

Dont tell me...you're a big Tom Lykiss fan?

(btw, not sure which SA countries you mean but I know a bunch of Argentines (and a few Venezuelans) and those women do not think like that at all.)
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What you mentioned above isn't always the case. After discovering the internet, I met a wonderful exception. She even banged me straightaway after meeting her. She was cute and petite as described. I asked her if she had done that before. She replied yes, she does that when she's hungry for company. She was from a poor area where men went to the city to work so available women greatly outnumbered men. I thought she was a keeper. However, I went to the trouble of renting a car and driving 700 miles to the middle of nowhere to meet her parents. Her illiterate mother filled me in on how rebellious and a headache she was. That killed it.
 
SDET said:
I listen to several youtube MGTOW content providers and some do add excerpts of Tom Leykis. My views and experiences started before the internet was popular. I'm not mentioning specific countries because I don't want cultural Marxists finding out where I am and slashing my tires. Lefties are a tolerant lot.

Your acquaintances are probably:
1) Urban
2) English speaking
3) Americanized
4) Have a college degree
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Yes that does describe them, mostly.

It's depressing what you are implying about the women that dont fit those criteria.

Tom is a riot.
 
SDET said:
American women kinds of hint that such a thing is a possibility to weasel resources out of men.
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This is usually just morons who mistake friendliness for flirting.
 
Deuce said:
This is usually just morons who mistake friendliness for flirting.
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Is accepting things that cost money a form of friendliness?
 
SDET said:
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Seems pretty simple to me --- whoever asks the other out is the one who pays. It's rude to ask someone out for dinner and leave them with the bill.
 
SDET said:
They get money being spent on them constantly. Whether it be in a relationship or something more vulgar, women are expensive!
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Only those who expect, want or need tangible gifts in order to believe you love them. For many women, just helping around the house, giving her compliments and spending quality time is plenty.
 
SDET said:
Is accepting things that cost money a form of friendliness?
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People often accept things offered to them just to be polite.
 
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