Generation Z is anti-gay marriage, trans "rights" - The Times study finds

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teenagers-oppose-gay-marriage-and-shun-tattoos-f2rf0td0b

Younger teenagers sceptical about gay marriage and trans movement, study claims | CatholicHerald.co.uk

As a researcher who keeps up with the trends and social changes in the modern and post-modern world, this is rather interesting: support for the "LGBT" subculture and trans "rights" seems to be dying out among the youngest and most web-savvy generation, with opposition to "LGBT" likely to become the prevailing social norm in the near future.

I'm personally not sure it's worth society's time to "oppose" it, since the "LGBT" cult never amounted to much to begin with - having been more or less comprised of a minority of less educated and socially maladjusted Boomers and Millennials - who one would expect to find a low-rent Los Angeles trailer park or "Insane Clown Posse" concert than they would at library, health food store, or classical music venue to begin with.

I'd venture that it might be better for the more evolved members of society just to let the underclass and evolutionary ineffectuals voluntarily quarantine themselves, and let their myriad of diseases - and lack of any reproductive ability - run their evolutionary course if they choose to perpetuate it.

Given that their sexual problems and identity disorders are arguably less a "disease" and more just a symptom of the trashy and diseased lifestyles that such individuals are prone to as a whole, having coincidentally gone hand-in hand with obesity, chain smoking, and other degenerative lifestyle choices:

https://truthinitiative.org/news/why-are-smoking-rates-higher-lgbt-communities

Among older LGBT adults, 9 percent have HIV disease. Cancer is reported in 19 percent of older LGBT adults, including 16 percent of lesbians, 20 percent of bisexual women, 21 percent of gay men, 24 percent of bisexual men and 16 percent of transgender older adults.


Cardiovascular disease is significantly higher for bisexual men than for gay men, according to SAMHSA. Older transgender adults have higher rates of obesity, cardiovascular disease, asthma and diabetes than other adults, but significantly lower rates of cataracts, and hepatitis.

Did not know you could fit so many lies and homophobic content into a single post.

Carjosse said:

Did not know you could fit so many lies and homophobic content into a single post.

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Now now, you've been here on DP for 6 years, yes you did. These people and their bigoted beliefs have been so shunned and rejected by society that the only place they have to spew their hate without repercussions is internet forums.

Vision said:

I'm personally not sure it's worth society's time to "oppose" it, since the "LGBT" cult never amounted to much to begin with - having been more or less comprised of a minority of less educated and socially maladjusted Boomers and Millennials - who one would expect to find a low-rent Los Angeles trailer park or "Insane Clown Posse" concert than they would at library, health food store, or classical music venue to begin with.

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Good, then you shouldn't worry your little head about it. Everyone has the right to live their lives as they choose. Also, on a side note, you definitely strike me as juggalo who would go to an ICP concert with his face painted up.

Vision said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teenagers-oppose-gay-marriage-and-shun-tattoos-f2rf0td0b

Younger teenagers sceptical about gay marriage and trans movement, study claims | CatholicHerald.co.uk

As a researcher who keeps up with the trends and social changes in the modern and post-modern world, this is rather interesting: support for the "LGBT" subculture and trans "rights" seems to be dying out among the youngest and most web-savvy generation, with opposition to "LGBT" likely to become the prevailing social norm in the near future.

I'm personally not sure it's worth society's time to "oppose" it, since the "LGBT" cult never amounted to much to begin with - having been more or less comprised of a minority of less educated and socially maladjusted Boomers and Millennials - who one would expect to find a low-rent Los Angeles trailer park or "Insane Clown Posse" concert than they would at library, health food store, or classical music venue to begin with.

I'd venture that it might be better for the more evolved members of society just to let the underclass and evolutionary ineffectuals voluntarily quarantine themselves, and let their myriad of diseases - and lack of any reproductive ability - run their evolutionary course if they choose to perpetuate it.

Given that their sexual problems and identity disorders are arguably less a "disease" and more just a symptom of the trashy and diseased lifestyles that such individuals are prone to as a whole, having coincidentally gone hand-in hand with obesity, chain smoking, and other degenerative lifestyle choices:

https://truthinitiative.org/news/why-are-smoking-rates-higher-lgbt-communities

Among older LGBT adults, 9 percent have HIV disease. Cancer is reported in 19 percent of older LGBT adults, including 16 percent of lesbians, 20 percent of bisexual women, 21 percent of gay men, 24 percent of bisexual men and 16 percent of transgender older adults.


Cardiovascular disease is significantly higher for bisexual men than for gay men, according to SAMHSA. Older transgender adults have higher rates of obesity, cardiovascular disease, asthma and diabetes than other adults, but significantly lower rates of cataracts, and hepatitis.

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A fact that that destroys your whole argument is that LGBT people are more likely to have higher education and higher incomes than the general population.

Carjosse said:

A fact that that destroys your whole argument is that LGBT people are more likely to have higher education and higher incomes than the general population.

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No, that study is about "gay couples", not members of the "LGBT cult".

Not all "gay couples" are members of the NAMBLA-endorsing LGBT cult - at least not anymore than "all Muslims" are members of ISIS.

Most "gay people" do not identify with the LGBT cult or involve themselves with politics - the LGBT movement is just a cult that preys on the mentally ill and lowest-functioning members of society, and actively recruits them into the so-called "lifestyle" merely to serve its own ends.

Vision said:

No, that study is about "gay couples", not members of the "LGBT cult".

Not all "gay couples" are members of the NAMBLA-endorsing LGBT cult - at least not anymore than "all Muslims" are members of ISIS.

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So what exactly is this LGBT cult then? Since it apparently does not include any actual LGBT people.

Any census data to back up your claims?

Vision said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teenagers-oppose-gay-marriage-and-shun-tattoos-f2rf0td0b

Younger teenagers sceptical about gay marriage and trans movement, study claims | CatholicHerald.co.uk

As a researcher who keeps up with the trends and social changes in the modern and post-modern world, this is rather interesting: support for the "LGBT" subculture and trans "rights" seems to be dying out among the youngest and most web-savvy generation, with opposition to "LGBT" likely to become the prevailing social norm in the near future.

I'm personally not sure it's worth society's time to "oppose" it, since the "LGBT" cult never amounted to much to begin with - having been more or less comprised of a minority of less educated and socially maladjusted Boomers and Millennials - who one would expect to find a low-rent Los Angeles trailer park or "Insane Clown Posse" concert than they would at library, health food store, or classical music venue to begin with.

I'd venture that it might be better for the more evolved members of society just to let the underclass and evolutionary ineffectuals voluntarily quarantine themselves, and let their myriad of diseases - and lack of any reproductive ability - run their evolutionary course if they choose to perpetuate it.

Given that their sexual problems and identity disorders are arguably less a "disease" and more just a symptom of the trashy and diseased lifestyles that such individuals are prone to as a whole, having coincidentally gone hand-in hand with obesity, chain smoking, and other degenerative lifestyle choices:

https://truthinitiative.org/news/why-are-smoking-rates-higher-lgbt-communities

Among older LGBT adults, 9 percent have HIV disease. Cancer is reported in 19 percent of older LGBT adults, including 16 percent of lesbians, 20 percent of bisexual women, 21 percent of gay men, 24 percent of bisexual men and 16 percent of transgender older adults.


Cardiovascular disease is significantly higher for bisexual men than for gay men, according to SAMHSA. Older transgender adults have higher rates of obesity, cardiovascular disease, asthma and diabetes than other adults, but significantly lower rates of cataracts, and hepatitis.

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I would think a true 'researcher' would not give so much credence to such a biased source.

Vision said:

No, that study is about "gay couples", not members of the "LGBT cult".

Not all "gay couples" are members of the NAMBLA-endorsing LGBT cult - at least not anymore than "all Muslims" are members of ISIS.

Most "gay people" do not identify with the LGBT cult or involve themselves with politics - the LGBT movement is just a cult that preys on the mentally ill and lowest-functioning members of society, and actively recruits them into the so-called "lifestyle" merely to serve its own ends.

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Please correct your 'lean'.

RabidAlpaca said:

Now now, you've been here on DP for 6 years, yes you did. These people and their bigoted beliefs have been so shunned and rejected by society that the only place they have to spew their hate without repercussions is internet forums.

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That would be rather incorrect - I spew my "hate", err facts, wherever I damn well please, without any repercussion, at all:

I believe it was Alinsky in Rules for Radicals who said "power isn't what you have, it's what they think you have"

Demographically speaking, no one with much in the way of versatile experience believes that the minority of "LGBT" cult members have any real power, and if they did, they wouldn't have to quarantine themselves away from the rest of society and hide behind their "Pride" rallies and other facades to begin with.

Certainly not in the global economy, in which the US's influence is rapidly Dwinding in comparsion to that of China, Russa, the Islamic world and other economies - in which the notion of "LGBT rights" is laughable.

And if the overwhelming negative reaction to, say Youtube's latest "ProudToBe" campaign is any indication - then I'm pretty sure that we won't be seeing much in the way of any "LGBT" in any public areas of society in the near future:



So no, "homosexuality" which has been around since the Romans and before will not "disappear" - but the LGBT cult which emerged in the 1960s, and has explicitly endorsed pro-pedophile organizations will be re marginalized into nonexistence, since apparently has become re-normalized by Generation Z, having not entirely lost the sanity that some Baby Boomers did - that's my prediction.

Good, then you shouldn't worry your little head about it. Everyone has the right to live their lives as they choose. Also, on a side note, you definitely strike me as juggalo who would go to an ICP concert with his face painted up.

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Yes, and they also have a right to make it harder for those who choose poorly.

Carjosse said:

So what exactly is this LGBT cult then? Since it apparently does not include any actual LGBT people.

Any census data to back up your claims?

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I think the LGBT Cult is a weekly meetup he has. They drink community cool-aid and talk about how much they hate gays.

Vision said:

That would be rather incorrect - I spew my hate wherever I damn well please, without any repercussion, at all:
And if the overwhelming negative reaction to, say Youtube's latest "ProudToBe" campaign is any indication

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The reality is LGBT rights are here to stay and no amount of you whining on internet forums is going to change that. If you want to attack others' rights maybe you shouldn't have any yourself.

RabidAlpaca said:

I think the LGBT Cult is a weekly meetup he has. They drink community cool-aid and talk about how much they hate gays.



The reality is LGBT rights are here to stay and no amount of you whining on internet forums is going to change that. If you want to attack others' rights maybe you shouldn't have any yourself.

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I think this person is viewing LGBT as a political party and not an amalgam of lesbians gays bisexuals and transgenders.

CLAX1911 said:

I think this person is viewing LGBT as a political party and not an amalgam of lesbians gays bisexuals and transgenders.

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I was wondering when the right's token Uncle Tom was going to show up and defend the person calling you a disease, degenerate and a cult member.

Carjosse said:

So what exactly is this LGBT cult then? Since it apparently does not include any actual LGBT people.

Any census data to back up your claims?

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Point is "LGBT people" is a social construct - the actual research such as by Kinsey and company has stated that "same-sex attraction" is fluid and on a spectrum.

This means identifying as "LGBT" is a choice - most people who have been in same-sex feelings or relations don't identify with the "LGBT movement" or attend "pride rallies" to begin with. "Homosexuality" has always existed, but the invention of the "LGBT identity" is a recent invention.

As I pointed out, the LGBT movement is more or less a cult that actively preys on children and tries to brainwash them into the diseased "lifestyle", and has been documented having openly embraced pedophile organizations like NAMBLA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#ILGA_controversy

So no, you took it as me saying that anyone who had had same-sex feelings shouldn't be allowed to exist - that wasn't what I'm saying. I'm saying that the "LGBT movement" shouldn't exist, since it's really just a cult which preys on sexually confused people and children who lack a sense of identity and uses them to further perverse agendas.

Here's an example of someone who escaped the "transgender" cult:

"I am a real, live 22-year-old woman, with a scarred chest and a broken voice, and five o'clock shadow because I couldn’t face the idea of growing up to be a woman, that’s my reality," admitted Cari Stella in a deeply personal YouTube video. She objected to transgender journalist Julia Serano's insistence on calling her "transgender."

"I am a real, live 22-year-old woman, with a scarred chest and a broken voice, and five o'clock shadow because I couldn’t face the idea of growing up to be a woman, that’s my reality," admitted Cari Stella in a deeply personal YouTube video. She objected to transgender journalist Julia Serano's insistence on calling her "transgender."

"Gender was done to me, gender was traumatizing to me, I don't want anything to do with it anymore," Stella declared. She admitted that "when I was transitioning, I felt a strong desire — what I would have called a 'need' at the time — to transition," but her transition only hurt her more. "It can be damn hard to figure out that the treatment you're being told is to help you is actually making your mental health worse. Testosterone made me even more dissociated than I already was," she said.


Another de-transitioning woman, Carey Callahan, accused Serano of "erasing" her, by insisting that because people like Callahan had transitioned, they were still transgender. "If self-definition is a human right, I don't know how much louder we can shout to the world we're not trans," Callahan said. "And for me, if you say that I'm on the transgender spectrum, what you're doing is you're erasing everything I'm telling you about my life and my story."

"I had trauma that led to me disassociating from my female body, and ... the longer I chased that disassociation — the more I asked people to call me special pronouns, the more I tried to change my body, the more I ensconced myself in a community that would affirm a trans identity, the worse I felt, Callahan admitted.

She argued that Serano's insistence that people like her are still transgender is unfair and dishonest. "It's a central story in my life, and you're erasing it to make me fit into your ideology." Callahan added, "Your set of ideas of how the world works is not worth acting like I don't exist, or acting like you get to define my gender for me. No, that's not how that works. I'm a real person, and you have to deal with my existence."

RabidAlpaca said:

I was wondering when the right's token Uncle Tom was going to show up and defend the person calling you a disease, degenerate and a cult member.

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You think I'm defending something? How so?

I guess civility is too much to ask.

CLAX1911 said:

You think I'm defending something? How so?
I guess civility is too much to ask.

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Because the OP has very clearly called ALL LGBT diseased, degenerate cult members and you're pretend it's just the liberal political wing of the LGBT community he was attacking. I mean ****, I'm not going to tell you who to defend, I just think it's hilarious that's what you're going with.

Vision said:

As I pointed out, the LGBT movement is more or less a cult that actively preys on children and tries to brainwash them into the diseased "lifestyle", and has been documented having openly embraced pedophile organizations like NAMBLA:
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Vision said:

Point is "LGBT people" is a social construct - the actual research such as by Kinsey and company has stated that "same-sex attraction" is fluid and on a spectrum.

This means identifying as "LGBT" is a choice - most "gay people" don't identify with the LGBT movement or attend "pride rallies" to begin with. "Homosexuality" has always existed, but the invention of the "LGBT identity" is a recent invention.

As I pointed out, the LGBT movement is more or less a cult that actively preys on children and tries to brainwash them into the diseased "lifestyle", and has been documented having openly embraced pedophile organizations like NAMBLA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#ILGA_controversy

So no, you took it as me saying that anyone who had had same-sex feelings shouldn't be allowed to exist - that wasn't what I'm saying. I'm saying that the "LGBT movement" shouldn't exist, since it's really just a cult which preys on sexually confused people and children who lack a sense of identity and uses them to further perverse agendas.

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From your link:

Many gay organizations called for the ILGA to dissolve ties with NAMBLA.
In 1994, ILGA expelled NAMBLA— the first U.S.-based organization to be a member[14]—as well as Vereniging Martijn and Project Truth,[19] because they were judged to be "groups whose predominant aim is to support or promote pedophilia".

The first documented opposition to NAMBLA from LGBT organizations occurred at the conference that organized the first gay march on Washington in 1979.[27] In 1980, a group, called the Lesbian Caucus, distributed a flyer urging women to split from the annual New York City Gay Pride March, because according to the group, the organizing committee had been dominated by NAMBLA and its supporters.[27] The next year, after some lesbians threatened to picket, the Cornell University group Gay People at Cornell (Gay PAC) rescinded its invitation to NAMBLA founder David Thorstad to be the keynote speaker at the annual May Gay Festival.[27] In the following years, gay rights groups tried to block NAMBLA’s participation in gay pride parades, prompting leading gay rights figure Harry Hay to wear a sign proclaiming "NAMBLA walks with me" as he participated in a 1986 gay pride march in Los Angeles.[28]

By the mid-1980s, NAMBLA was virtually alone in its positions and found itself politically isolated. Some gay rights organizations, burdened by accusations of child recruitment and child abuse, had abandoned the radicalism of their early years and had "retreat[ed] from the idea of a more inclusive politics",[29] choosing instead to appeal to the mainstream. Support for "groups perceived as being on the fringe of the gay community," such as NAMBLA, vanished in the process.[29] In 1984, a New York LGBT rights group called Stonewall 25 voted to ban NAMBLA from its international march on the United Nations in June of that year, accusing the religious right in the US for conflating child abuse and pedophilia for "twisted interests".[30]

In 1994 the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) adopted a document called "Position Statement Regarding NAMBLA", which said GLAAD "deplores the North American Man Boy Love Association's (NAMBLA) goals, which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD."[31] Also in 1994 the Board of Directors of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) adopted a resolution on NAMBLA that said, "NGLTF condemns all abuse of minors, both sexual and any other kind, perpetrated by adults. Accordingly, NGLTF condemns the organizational goals of NAMBLA and any other such organization."[31]

In April 2013 the hacktivist group Anonymous prevented NAMBLA's website from being accessed as part of an operation dubbed "Operation Alice Day".[32][33] The timing of the attack coincided with Alice Day, a Pedophilia Pride Day celebrated by a small group of pedophiles and their supporters on April 25.[34][35][36]



So how are they openly embracing NAMBLA?

RabidAlpaca said:

I think the LGBT Cult is a weekly meetup he has. They drink community cool-aid and talk about how much they hate gays.


The reality is LGBT rights are here to stay and no amount of you whining on internet forums is going to change that. If you want to attack others' rights maybe you shouldn't have any yourself.

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Well no, they're not necessarily - if you believe that, then that's quaint, but unless you have counter-evidence to back up the study which shows that the Generation Z is more anti-LGBT than the previous generations, then one could easily postulate that LGBT "rights" will be repealed and disappear like they never existed.

I'm sure these teens feel like this in Catholic schools but in the brain washed liberal public school system the gay life style is heavily promoted.

RabidAlpaca said:

Because the OP has very clearly called ALL LGBT diseased, degenerate cult members and you're pretend it's just the liberal political wing of the LGBT community he was attacking. I mean ****, I'm not going to tell you who to defend, I just think it's hilarious that's what you're going with.

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I never said that all people who may have identified as "gay" at some point in their life are diseased.

I said that the "LGBT pride" movement is a diseased cult, and that LGBT as a political movement should be abolished, due to the evidence of their sordid history, such as embracing "pedophile rights"

Or essentially that "LGBT" is to "gay people" what ISIS is to Muslims.

Vision said:

Point is "LGBT people" is a social construct - the actual research such as by Kinsey and company has stated that "same-sex attraction" is fluid and on a spectrum.

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Honestly I had to laugh when I read this yes LGBT is a societal construct. Groups of people getting together and petitioning for equal treatment which is how the LGBT started is absolutely social.

You mentioned Kinsey and Company who is the "and Company" are they other psychologist psychiatrist?

This means identifying as "LGBT" is a choice

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well yes of course it is just like identifying is Catholic or republican is a choice.

most "gay people" don't identify with the LGBT movement or attend "pride rallies" to begin with. "Homosexuality" has always existed, but the invention of the "LGBT identity" is a recent invention.

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well yes the LGBT is a political coalition that formed in the 60s.

As I pointed out, the LGBT movement is more or less a cult that actively preys on children and tries to brainwash them into the diseased "lifestyle", and has been documented having openly embraced pedophile organizations like NAMBLA:

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you keep saying it's a cult but I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Vision said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teenagers-oppose-gay-marriage-and-shun-tattoos-f2rf0td0b

Younger teenagers sceptical about gay marriage and trans movement, study claims | CatholicHerald.co.uk

As a researcher who keeps up with the trends and social changes in the modern and post-modern world, this is rather interesting: support for the "LGBT" subculture and trans "rights" seems to be dying out among the youngest and most web-savvy generation, with opposition to "LGBT" likely to become the prevailing social norm in the near future.

I'm personally not sure it's worth society's time to "oppose" it, since the "LGBT" cult never amounted to much to begin with - having been more or less comprised of a minority of less educated and socially maladjusted Boomers and Millennials - who one would expect to find a low-rent Los Angeles trailer park or "Insane Clown Posse" concert than they would at library, health food store, or classical music venue to begin with.

I'd venture that it might be better for the more evolved members of society just to let the underclass and evolutionary ineffectuals voluntarily quarantine themselves, and let their myriad of diseases - and lack of any reproductive ability - run their evolutionary course if they choose to perpetuate it.

Given that their sexual problems and identity disorders are arguably less a "disease" and more just a symptom of the trashy and diseased lifestyles that such individuals are prone to as a whole, having coincidentally gone hand-in hand with obesity, chain smoking, and other degenerative lifestyle choices:

https://truthinitiative.org/news/why-are-smoking-rates-higher-lgbt-communities

Among older LGBT adults, 9 percent have HIV disease. Cancer is reported in 19 percent of older LGBT adults, including 16 percent of lesbians, 20 percent of bisexual women, 21 percent of gay men, 24 percent of bisexual men and 16 percent of transgender older adults.


Cardiovascular disease is significantly higher for bisexual men than for gay men, according to SAMHSA. Older transgender adults have higher rates of obesity, cardiovascular disease, asthma and diabetes than other adults, but significantly lower rates of cataracts, and hepatitis.

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Nah -- that doesn't appear to be accurate.

RabidAlpaca said:

Because the OP has very clearly called ALL LGBT diseased, degenerate cult members and you're pretend it's just the liberal political wing of the LGBT community he was attacking.

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you misunderstood. I was explaining how he was using the term. I said nothing in regards to the position.

I mean ****, I'm not going to tell you who to defend, I just think it's hilarious that's what you're going with.

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I'm telling you I did not defend him. You misread.

gulfman said:

I'm sure these teens feel like this in Catholic schools but in the brain washed liberal public school system the gay life style is heavily promoted.

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In some ways it is, but from what I've seen the youngest, internet savvy generation which has grown up more with "internet memes" and rejected the "SJW" subculture or whatnot, seems to be more skeptical of it.

So I think there is actually hope of it "changing", but in the opposite direction.

HowardBThiname said:

Nah -- that doesn't appear to be accurate.

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This article was about Generation Z, those born after the year 2000 - not "millennials". The trend seems to show that Generation Z is more skeptical of the "LGBT narrative" than those previous.

gulfman said:

I'm sure these teens feel like this in Catholic schools but in the brain washed liberal public school system the gay life style is heavily promoted.

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That's probably why there is the views that Generation Z holds. Teenagers rebel.