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Touch Isolation

Northern Light said:
This kind of toxic masculinity is part of the problem that keeps men separate.

If you would really go after someone who is just platonically touching your son then you're a failure as a parent.
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Not a failure.
I don't want anyone touching my son.
 
PTF said:
My son would stick up for himself against anyone who takes a shot at him. Not for doing the electric slide with Clyde.
If he wants to read a book or study with a male friend let them head for the library but don't lock legs under the table.
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That's your own personal biased providing an unreasonable reaction to completely innocent action. And still doesn't explain why he should expect to be teased over doing nonsexual things that others simply find uncomfortable with someone of the same sex. You basically just said "well I think it is wrong so he should be teased". Ridiculous.
 
roguenuke said:
That's your own personal biased providing an unreasonable reaction to completely innocent action. And still doesn't explain why he should expect to be teased over doing nonsexual things that others simply find uncomfortable with someone of the same sex. You basically just said "well I think it is wrong so he should be teased". Ridiculous.
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Oh yawn...yawn.
It's not innocent but a cheap unwanted pass.
It starts out with the legs then goes to arms and hands. What next ?
troye silvan syndrome begins. Not with my sons.
 
PTF said:
Oh yawn...yawn.
It's not innocent but a cheap unwanted pass.
It starts out with the legs then goes to arms and hands. What next ?
troye silvan syndrome begins. Not with my sons.
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No its not. Many children touch each other, regardless of sex/gender, without it being sexual. Adults would do it too if they weren't shamed for it by parents and other role models, adult figures in their childhood. You are assuming intent based on nothing but your personal biases, not facts.
 
roguenuke said:
No its not. Many children touch each other, regardless of sex/gender, without it being sexual. Adults would do it too if they weren't shamed for it by parents and other role models, adult figures in their childhood. You are assuming intent based on nothing but your personal biases, not facts.
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I see what you're doing and you know better than that. You used the word " touch " and that's not the point.
The point is locking legs which I can understand if it's boyfriend and girlfriend at a older age.
No dudes should be doing this at any age. Once its starts who knows ?
 
Northern Light said:
https://medium.com/@remakingmanhood...obia-has-robbed-all-men-of-touch-239987952f16



This topic came up because recently at school my son was called a fag by some other students because he and his friend were sitting on the ground reading books with their legs interlaced. My son came home and said he was wondering if he might be gay because him and his friend have this kind of contact when they're hanging out. There are also rumors at school that they are a couple but my son says it's not like that at all. To me it's irrelevant if he's gay or not because all boys and men should be able to have platonic contact with each other as part of healthy human behavior, which is what I told him.

I've always thought that the way men relate in North America is pretty screwed up in this way. They can get into sports fights and beat each other up, or have any other kind of touch as long as it's deemed competitive. During my time in India I noticed a lot of young guys hanging off each other and it was no big deal. In cultures that are still really homosocial (men and women stay mostly separate until marriage), physical contact is common. It's like in the west men can only get their need for touch met by getting a girlfriend, which puts a lot of pressure on the woman to fulfill a need that should really just be an every day thing.

The article is really interesting along with some old photos of men touching that have nothing to do with it being gay.
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when my disciples take there robes off in public. I make them put stickers over there nipples.
 
PTF said:
I see what you're doing and you know better than that. You used the word " touch " and that's not the point.
The point is locking legs which I can understand if it's boyfriend and girlfriend at a older age.
No dudes should be doing this at any age. Once its starts who knows ?
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Even "locking legs" is not sexual. What exactly is sexual about that? Because you find it "intimate"?
 
roguenuke said:
Even "locking legs" is not sexual. What exactly is sexual about that? Because you find it "intimate"?
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I'm not going to go back and forth on this. I had my say.
Two dudes locking legs in the park ?
Why not roll on the ground tickling each other and have a ball ?
You folks can lock legs here, I'm done.
(walks away)
 
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