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More than half of transgender teachers face harassment in their workplace

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https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/201...ransgender-teachers-face-workplace-harassment

More than half of transgender teachers face harassment or discrimination in the workplace, according to an NPR Ed survey of transgender and gender-nonconforming educators.

The survey of 79 trans and gender-nonconforming teachers from the U.S. and Canada found that the harassment they face ranges widely: from 20 percent who reported verbal harassment, to 17 percent who said they'd been asked to change how the present themselves, such as their clothing, to two teachers who said they'd been fired.

"I was horribly harassed by a coworker and very little was done about it," said Lauren Heckathorne of Evanston, Ill., who identifies as nonbinary. "The focus was on making [the harasser] more comfortable."

These findings come from our online survey, and follow-up interviews by phone and in person with two dozen of the 79 teachers who responded.

Despite the challenges they face, a majority of these teachers also said they have tried to integrate LGBT-related topics into their teaching. Many also mentioned advising LGBT awareness groups for students, training peers or addressing the topic in venues such as school assemblies.

And, they told us, they see schools as crucial spaces not only of learning, but of safety, for the next generation.

"I don't think I've ever seen a supportive parent for my LGBT kids," says Chris Smith, who teaches many recent immigrants in a high school in New York City. Considering the high rates of bullying, homelessness and even suicide among LGBT youth, these teachers say their work can be a matter of life and death.

My only question is, why are we letting the mentally ill teach our kids anything?
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/201...ransgender-teachers-face-workplace-harassment

More than half of transgender teachers face harassment or discrimination in the workplace, according to an NPR Ed survey of transgender and gender-nonconforming educators.

The survey of 79 trans and gender-nonconforming teachers from the U.S. and Canada found that the harassment they face ranges widely: from 20 percent who reported verbal harassment, to 17 percent who said they'd been asked to change how the present themselves, such as their clothing, to two teachers who said they'd been fired.

"I was horribly harassed by a coworker and very little was done about it," said Lauren Heckathorne of Evanston, Ill., who identifies as nonbinary. "The focus was on making [the harasser] more comfortable."

These findings come from our online survey, and follow-up interviews by phone and in person with two dozen of the 79 teachers who responded.

Despite the challenges they face, a majority of these teachers also said they have tried to integrate LGBT-related topics into their teaching. Many also mentioned advising LGBT awareness groups for students, training peers or addressing the topic in venues such as school assemblies.

And, they told us, they see schools as crucial spaces not only of learning, but of safety, for the next generation.

"I don't think I've ever seen a supportive parent for my LGBT kids," says Chris Smith, who teaches many recent immigrants in a high school in New York City. Considering the high rates of bullying, homelessness and even suicide among LGBT youth, these teachers say their work can be a matter of life and death.

My only question is, why are we letting the mentally ill teach our kids anything?

Intolerance is taught, its not something your born with. You have been a very attentive student.
 
Intolerance is taught, its not something your born with. You have been a very attentive student.

So you are ok with your kids being educated by mentally ill people?
Do you let crack dealers babysit them on friday nights as well? I mean, why not be inclusive, right? lol
I understand some people dont believe they have problems, but that is obviously incorrect. The WHO lists that as an illness.. are they intolerant as well? Or perhaps they are just realistic?
 
So you are ok with your kids being educated by mentally ill people?
Do you let crack dealers babysit them on friday nights as well? I mean, why not be inclusive, right? lol
I understand some people dont believe they have problems, but that is obviously incorrect. The WHO lists that as an illness.. are they intolerant as well? Or perhaps they are just realistic?

Wow, pretty heavy on the hateful BS this morning, huh? You're new here, so let me help you out a bit. If you are going to make hateful, despicable generalizations that both marginalize and demonize both transgendered folk and folks with mental health challenges, how about you do so from some other place than directly out your ass? How about posting some studies that show a correlation between transgenderism and an inability to teach. That would be a good place to start. Then show us the percentage of teachers currently suffering from some form of mental illness, and compare their results with teachers not coping with mental health issues.

And then apologize to everyone for comparing transgendered people to crack dealers.

I know it's probably easier to just say "Eww, ****in gross, dude"...but you're in the wrong place if you're looking for "a big hell yeah", followed by the sound of chugging a beer and belching.
 
Wow, pretty heavy on the hateful BS this morning, huh? You're new here, so let me help you out a bit. If you are going to make hateful, despicable generalizations that both marginalize and demonize both transgendered folk and folks with mental health challenges, how about you do so from some other place than directly out your ass? How about posting some studies that show a correlation between transgenderism and an inability to teach. That would be a good place to start. Then show us the percentage of teachers currently suffering from some form of mental illness, and compare their results with teachers not coping with mental health issues.

And then apologize to everyone for comparing transgendered people to crack dealers.

I know it's probably easier to just say "Eww, ****in gross, dude"...but you're in the wrong place if you're looking for "a big hell yeah", followed by the sound of chugging a beer and belching.

Dang, to be against generalizations, you sure do your share, ey? lol... <rolls eyes>
Look man, they are ill. Thats fact. I am simply wondering why we would let mentally ill people teach our children. Are you ok with schizos and other forms of illness teaching our kids, or is just this one ok, because that is becoming the norm for society?
I mean excuse the hek out of me for not wanting someone that denies basic biology to teach it.
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/201...ransgender-teachers-face-workplace-harassment

More than half of transgender teachers face harassment or discrimination in the workplace, according to an NPR Ed survey of transgender and gender-nonconforming educators.

The survey of 79 trans and gender-nonconforming teachers from the U.S. and Canada found that the harassment they face ranges widely: from 20 percent who reported verbal harassment, to 17 percent who said they'd been asked to change how the present themselves, such as their clothing, to two teachers who said they'd been fired.

"I was horribly harassed by a coworker and very little was done about it," said Lauren Heckathorne of Evanston, Ill., who identifies as nonbinary. "The focus was on making [the harasser] more comfortable."

These findings come from our online survey, and follow-up interviews by phone and in person with two dozen of the 79 teachers who responded.

Despite the challenges they face, a majority of these teachers also said they have tried to integrate LGBT-related topics into their teaching. Many also mentioned advising LGBT awareness groups for students, training peers or addressing the topic in venues such as school assemblies.

And, they told us, they see schools as crucial spaces not only of learning, but of safety, for the next generation.

"I don't think I've ever seen a supportive parent for my LGBT kids," says Chris Smith, who teaches many recent immigrants in a high school in New York City. Considering the high rates of bullying, homelessness and even suicide among LGBT youth, these teachers say their work can be a matter of life and death.

My only question is, why are we letting the mentally ill teach our kids anything?
:roll:
 
reminds me of trans in the military. We wont let people that have RECURRING NIGHTMARES in there but people that say biology is wrong, is ok? Pure societal crap.
Trans people starting comparing themselves to gays and they got recognition. Even though they are butt opposites.
A person that just wants to act like the opposite sex? I have no problem with. Its the delusion and its normalization that is my problem.
 
Dang, to be against generalizations, you sure do your share, ey? lol... <rolls eyes>
Look man, they are ill. Thats fact. I am simply wondering why we would let mentally ill people teach our children. Are you ok with schizos and other forms of illness teaching our kids, or is just this one ok, because that is becoming the norm for society?
I mean excuse the hek out of me for not wanting someone that denies basic biology to teach it.

Doesn't feel good, does it?

As for all your other nonsense, as I said, if you want me to believe it, do the work and back up what you're saying. I gave you some great ways, you're welcome, now just go out and do it. I mean, I know in advance that it will be futile, since your entire position is hateful, phobic BS, but at least you'll learn something in the process.
 

I know the WHO that made the ICD that is accepted by most countries are a bunch of bigots. And all countries that accept it :mrgreen:
 
Doesn't feel good, does it?

As for all your other nonsense, as I said, if you want me to believe it, do the work and back up what you're saying. I gave you some great ways, you're welcome, now just go out and do it. I mean, I know in advance that it will be futile, since your entire position is hateful, phobic BS, but at least you'll learn something in the process.

I like how you ask me for more info when you ignore 75% of my content.
 
I know the WHO that made the ICD that is accepted by most countries are a bunch of bigots. And all countries that accept it :mrgreen:

Ah, so Conservatives suddenly like World Organizations when it suits their agenda. I know. Tell, me. Do you support the views of global organizations on Climate Change and Abortion and AIDS prevention?
 
Ah, so Conservatives suddenly like World Organizations when it suits their agenda. I know. Tell, me. Do you support the views of global organizations on Climate Change and Abortion and AIDS prevention?

Why do you call me a conservative? That type of tunnel vision doesnt do anybody any good..
I am about as pro choice as you can get. Climate change? I think we need to cut back on pollution. Common sense regulations are common sense. Do i think we should base policy around theories with many voids that get filled in with "man did it?" No. It reminds me of our history of gods being the answer to questions we didnt have an answer for..
Some groups say it we will destroy the planet. Some dont. Which should i pick?
Does that help?
 
I like how you ask me for more info when you ignore 75% of my content.

I'm not asking you for "more" info, because you've provided no info to begin with. Any info would be nice. Your assertions are completely unsupported in this thread up until now, making it appear that you're just here to troll and spread hateful nonsense. And ya, I recognize I'm feeding your trolling, primarily because it's good for folks on the fence to see what hateful people in action look like, in the hopes that they will choose a different path. Kinda like that whole "this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs" analogy.

But I'm willing to take it all back if you can actually demonstrate the correlation you're claiming, either in a sampling consisting of just transgendered teachers, or in the greater context of a comparison with cis gendered teachers with mental illness. Prove your assertion, homie, or else you've played yourself. :)
 
I'm not asking you for "more" info, because you've provided no info to begin with. Any info would be nice. Your assertions are completely unsupported in this thread up until now, making it appear that you're just here to troll and spread hateful nonsense. And ya, I recognize I'm feeding your trolling, primarily because it's good for folks on the fence to see what hateful people in action look like, in the hopes that they will choose a different path. Kinda like that whole "this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs" analogy.

But I'm willing to take it all back if you can actually demonstrate the correlation you're claiming, either in a sampling consisting of just transgendered teachers, or in the greater context of a comparison with cis gendered teachers with mental illness. Prove your assertion, homie, or else you've played yourself. :)

I am only asking why we should let the mentally ill teach our kids. What else do you need to answer? Should i post the ICD list or something? I mean, goodness...
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/201...ransgender-teachers-face-workplace-harassment

More than half of transgender teachers face harassment or discrimination in the workplace, according to an NPR Ed survey of transgender and gender-nonconforming educators.

The survey of 79 trans and gender-nonconforming teachers from the U.S. and Canada found that the harassment they face ranges widely: from 20 percent who reported verbal harassment, to 17 percent who said they'd been asked to change how the present themselves, such as their clothing, to two teachers who said they'd been fired.

"I was horribly harassed by a coworker and very little was done about it," said Lauren Heckathorne of Evanston, Ill., who identifies as nonbinary. "The focus was on making [the harasser] more comfortable."

These findings come from our online survey, and follow-up interviews by phone and in person with two dozen of the 79 teachers who responded.

Despite the challenges they face, a majority of these teachers also said they have tried to integrate LGBT-related topics into their teaching. Many also mentioned advising LGBT awareness groups for students, training peers or addressing the topic in venues such as school assemblies.

And, they told us, they see schools as crucial spaces not only of learning, but of safety, for the next generation.

"I don't think I've ever seen a supportive parent for my LGBT kids," says Chris Smith, who teaches many recent immigrants in a high school in New York City. Considering the high rates of bullying, homelessness and even suicide among LGBT youth, these teachers say their work can be a matter of life and death.

My only question is, why are we letting the mentally ill teach our kids anything?

There are about 3.6 million teachers in the US and about .001% of them feel like they are being harassed. How is this even a story???
 
There are about 3.6 million teachers in the US and about .001% of them feel like they are being harassed. How is this even a story???

because they are trans. Its the new "in" thing i suppose lol
 
I am only asking why we should let the mentally ill teach our kids. What else do you need to answer? Should i post the ICD list or something? I mean, goodness...

If your concern is about the mental health of teachers, you have much bigger fish to fry than 79 transgendered teachers who want to teach kids so badly that they are willing to do so while bearing the brunt of discrimination from folks like you.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...l-health-declining-amid-job-stress/811577001/

There, I did some of the work for you. Now, tell me again how these teachers in particular are a problem. Or at the very minimum, tell me what makes a person unfit for teaching when they are trying to rectify a personal issue? Even if I agreed with you about transgenderism being a mental health issue, what does it take away from one's ability to teach others? It is totally an inward reflection.

I'm probably playing myself now, trying to explain this to you, but I keep hoping there's going to be some meat in this **** sandwich.
 
If your concern is about the mental health of teachers, you have much bigger fish to fry than 79 transgendered teachers who want to teach kids so badly that they are willing to do so while bearing the brunt of discrimination from folks like you.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...l-health-declining-amid-job-stress/811577001/

There, I did some of the work for you. Now, tell me again how these teachers in particular are a problem. Or at the very minimum, tell me what makes a person unfit for teaching when they are trying to rectify a personal issue? Even if I agreed with you about transgenderism being a mental health issue, what does it take away from one's ability to teach others? It is totally an inward reflection.

I'm probably playing myself now, trying to explain this to you, but I keep hoping there's going to be some meat in this **** sandwich.

As i have already stated in this thread, why should someone that denies basic biology, teach it? They also have a 50% suicide rate AFTER surgery.
BTW, a bigot isnt someone questioning a persons mental capacity to do a job correctly.... People are throwing that term around like liberal and racism.. "Bigot" will lose meaning as well. Sad.
 
As i have already stated in this thread, why should someone that denies basic biology, teach it? They also have a 50% suicide rate AFTER surgery.
BTW, a bigot isnt someone questioning a persons mental capacity to do a job correctly.... People are throwing that term around like liberal and racism.. "Bigot" will lose meaning as well. Sad.

Where did I use the word bigot? I know your logic is taking a beating at the moment, but you're getting ahead of yourself in the script.
 
So you are ok with your kids being educated by mentally ill people?
Do you let crack dealers babysit them on friday nights as well? I mean, why not be inclusive, right? lol
I understand some people dont believe they have problems, but that is obviously incorrect. The WHO lists that as an illness.. are they intolerant as well? Or perhaps they are just realistic?

I am mentally ill, PTSD courtesy of 2 tours in Iraqi. Oh, I'm also a gay male, retired Air Force. I now look after our Vets with the VA. My last appraisal was outstanding. Do you have a point, besides trolling ?
 
I am mentally ill, PTSD courtesy of 2 tours in Iraqi. Oh, I'm also a gay male, retired Air Force. I now look after our Vets with the VA. My last appraisal was outstanding. Do you have a point, besides trolling ?

Thats great to hear! I appreciate success.
How is having a discussion trolling? Because you dont agree with my stance?
 
Where did I use the word bigot? I know your logic is taking a beating at the moment, but you're getting ahead of yourself in the script.

My apologies. I guess i just imagined it lol.. maybe i am delusional as well :)
How is my logic taking a beating? Not wanting mentally ill to teach children is illogical? It sounds illogical, to think that is illogical.
 
My apologies. I guess i just imagined it lol.. maybe i am delusional as well :)
How is my logic taking a beating? Not wanting mentally ill to teach children is illogical? It sounds illogical, to think that is illogical.

I am going to take your post sincerely. Research some om mental illness before generalizing. It will go far here at DP. A rocky start but welcome to DP.
 
I am going to take your post sincerely. Research some om mental illness before generalizing. It will go far here at DP. A rocky start but welcome to DP.

Im not generalizing, per se.
I have a cousin that is now a "dude" I have done a lot of research on this as it hits so close to home.
And thank you!
 
My apologies. I guess i just imagined it lol.. maybe i am delusional as well :)
How is my logic taking a beating? Not wanting mentally ill to teach children is illogical? It sounds illogical, to think that is illogical.

I am going to take your post sincerely. Research some om mental illness before generalizing. It will go far here at DP. A rocky start but welcome to DP.

^ This. Sometimes Yankintx is nicer than I am.

I think the idea that transgenderism is a mental illness is nonsense, though. I can tell you that if I woke up tomorrow morning to find that someone had carved a vagina into me, I'd want my dick back stat. That's all you have to do to understand why some trans folks go under the knife...they feel exactly like you would if someone carved a vagina into you (or plugged you up and put a dick on you, I'm making assumptions you're a dude)...except they've had to live with it all their lives. That conflict, or the steps one takes to resolve it, in no way impacts whether they can teach reading and writing to kids. Your "basic biology" comments are ignorant...this phenomenon exists in nature, therefore it is a part of "basic" biology, which of course has never been "basic", even before the transgender discussion. Biology is infinitely complicated...who better to teach that than someone struggling with that complexity?

Finally, the assertion that changing genders is "the in thing", as if it were a trend like fidget spinners or the Macarena, is preposterous. Given the challenges these people face on every level, physical, mental, social, etc., I promise you, there is nothing "trendy" about it. These people have to make massive sacrifices to find peace in this life, and if, even under that strain, they still have it in their hearts to teach children, then THAT'S the teacher I want my kid to have, vs. half these idiots out there that phone it in and wait for their summer holiday.
 
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