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More than half of transgender teachers face harassment in their workplace

OlNate said:
lol...so, now that your source isn't even supporting you, you're going to turn on it as well? lol... I'm sure you can understand why everyone talking to you looks at all of this as something of a joke.

But then, you knew the reaction you'd get, right? You think this is the first troll thread that has been dropped on DP? At least if you're going to troll, make it interesting, I can handle that. This is just weak.
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Yes. I shouldnt call out fallacies. GREAT point!
 
TNHarley said:
Yes. I shouldnt call out fallacies. GREAT point!
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If you had said "I shouldn't spread fallacies", we'd actually have something to agree about today.

Soo...what have you got against transgendered folk, anyway? Do you actually know any? Get confused by mistake some time and couldn't get over it? Is it a religious issue? Fighting something internally? What drives you to make your first big foray into a new debate forum about discriminating against transgendered people? Would love to know, if you were able to do so while avoiding rehashing the same garbage that has already been debunked in this thread and rejected by pretty much everyone reading this... What made you get up this morning and think "I'm going to talk **** about transgendered people, compare them to crack dealers, call them crazy, and try to convince everyone that they shouldn't be teaching"?
 
TNHarley said:
Yes. I shouldnt call out fallacies. GREAT point!
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Well, it is a fallacy.
https://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.pn.2016.8a15
AS you can see, the ICD-11 revision to be published it aligning with the rest of the scientific world and removing this last vestige of "TRANSGENDER IS A MENTAL DISORDER" lol crap you are running with to try and justify your position.

So now that I've yanked that 2 of clubs left out of your deck, how do you justify your stance now?
 
Renae said:
Well, it is a fallacy.
https://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.pn.2016.8a15
AS you can see, the ICD-11 revision to be published it aligning with the rest of the scientific world and removing this last vestige of "TRANSGENDER IS A MENTAL DISORDER" lol crap you are running with to try and justify your position.

So now that I've yanked that 2 of clubs left out of your deck, how do you justify your stance now?
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Maybe we can get there when we ACTUALLY get there.
I fail to see how i lose anything with something that hasnt even happened yet.
 
OlNate said:
If you had said "I shouldn't spread fallacies", we'd actually have something to agree about today.

Soo...what have you got against transgendered folk, anyway? Do you actually know any? Get confused by mistake some time and couldn't get over it? Is it a religious issue? Fighting something internally? What drives you to make your first big foray into a new debate forum about discriminating against transgendered people? Would love to know, if you were able to do so while avoiding rehashing the same garbage that has already been debunked in this thread and rejected by pretty much everyone reading this... What made you get up this morning and think "I'm going to talk **** about transgendered people, compare them to crack dealers, call them crazy, and try to convince everyone that they shouldn't be teaching"?
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My cousin is one.
I just disagree with the way society handles it. I dont have a grudge against them except when they scream for special rights. Of course, i have a problem with any group that does that.
 
TNHarley said:
Maybe we can get there when we ACTUALLY get there.
I fail to see how i lose anything with something that hasnt even happened yet.
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You mean a publication that takes years to put out isn't out, but the information is.. but since it's not "published" you'll hang on that thread of "BUT THE OLD ONE..."

That's fine, it's like a white flag of debate, saying you surrender.

Query, since you think a Trans person can't teach children, perhaps you can offer us a treatment for the Transgendered....
 
TNHarley said:
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/201...ransgender-teachers-face-workplace-harassment

More than half of transgender teachers face harassment or discrimination in the workplace, according to an NPR Ed survey of transgender and gender-nonconforming educators.

The survey of 79 trans and gender-nonconforming teachers from the U.S. and Canada found that the harassment they face ranges widely: from 20 percent who reported verbal harassment, to 17 percent who said they'd been asked to change how the present themselves, such as their clothing, to two teachers who said they'd been fired.

"I was horribly harassed by a coworker and very little was done about it," said Lauren Heckathorne of Evanston, Ill., who identifies as nonbinary. "The focus was on making [the harasser] more comfortable."

These findings come from our online survey, and follow-up interviews by phone and in person with two dozen of the 79 teachers who responded.

Despite the challenges they face, a majority of these teachers also said they have tried to integrate LGBT-related topics into their teaching. Many also mentioned advising LGBT awareness groups for students, training peers or addressing the topic in venues such as school assemblies.

And, they told us, they see schools as crucial spaces not only of learning, but of safety, for the next generation.

"I don't think I've ever seen a supportive parent for my LGBT kids," says Chris Smith, who teaches many recent immigrants in a high school in New York City. Considering the high rates of bullying, homelessness and even suicide among LGBT youth, these teachers say their work can be a matter of life and death.
My only question is, why are we letting the mentally ill teach our kids anything?
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LMAO every time somebody tries this bigoted, factually uneducated, lie it fails. . .the lie just gets mocked by honest, topically educated and objective people..... this will tun out the same way :lamo

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Renae said:
You mean a publication that takes years to put out isn't out, but the information is.. but since it's not "published" you'll hang on that thread of "BUT THE OLD ONE..."

That's fine, it's like a white flag of debate, saying you surrender.

Query, since you think a Trans person can't teach children, perhaps you can offer us a treatment for the Transgendered....
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LOL
they cant even agree on terminology!
There is no flag. I am simply waiting for it to actually come out. Why is that so unreasonable?
If you notice, they only talk about removing it from the dyphoria list. Them being "happy" wont mean they arent delusional...
I forgot to say thank you for your service!
 
AGENT J said:
LMAO every time somebody tries this bigoted, factually uneducated, lie it fails. . .the lie just gets mocked by honest, topically educated and objective people..... this will tun out the same way :lamo

:popcorn2:
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Please explain the "bigotry"
Thanks
 
TNHarley said:
LOL
they cant even agree on terminology!
There is no flag. I am simply waiting for it to actually come out. Why is that so unreasonable?
If you notice, they only talk about removing it from the dyphoria list. Them being "happy" wont mean they arent delusional...
I forgot to say thank you for your service!
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The people that are writing it, have said they moved Transexualism/transgender off the mentally ill list.
The terminology is trying to cover a range of healthcare across many countries and systems.

It was my pleasure to serve.
 
TNHarley said:
As i have already stated in this thread, why should someone that denies basic biology, teach it? They also have a 50% suicide rate AFTER surgery.
BTW, a bigot isnt someone questioning a persons mental capacity to do a job correctly.... People are throwing that term around like liberal and racism.. "Bigot" will lose meaning as well. Sad.
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Trans people do not deny biology. That is a meaningless statement. You obviously don't know what is taught in biology class. Biology is a hell of a lot more than human sexuality.
 
TNHarley said:
LOL
they cant even agree on terminology!
There is no flag. I am simply waiting for it to actually come out. Why is that so unreasonable?
If you notice, they only talk about removing it from the dyphoria list. Them being "happy" wont mean they arent delusional...
I forgot to say thank you for your service!
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By the by, I am not delusional. And being happy is very important.
 
devildavid said:
Trans people do not deny biology. That is a meaningless statement. You obviously don't know what is taught in biology class. Biology is a hell of a lot more than human sexuality.
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Transexualism is a lot more than sexuality.
Thats a poster he did a few pages back. The body is wrong, not the mind.
 
TNHarley said:
Transexualism is a lot more than sexuality.
Thats a poster he did a few pages back. The body is wrong, not the mind.
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Anyone can teach biology if they know the subject matter. Transsexualism does not affect this ability.
 
devildavid said:
Anyone can teach biology if they know the subject matter. Transsexualism does not affect this ability.
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It does when they deny it.
"cell structure is history, not biology!" LOL
 
TNHarley said:
Transexualism is a lot more than sexuality.
Thats a poster he did a few pages back. The body is wrong, not the mind.
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Actually, Transgender has little to nothing to do with sexuality. It's about Gender, sexuality is a different subject entirely. Maybe you'd be unfit to teach?
 
Renae said:
Actually, Transgender has little to nothing to do with sexuality. It's about Gender, sexuality is a different subject entirely. Maybe you'd be unfit to teach?
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Ummm i agree with that.
I said earlier how trans people took over the gay movement when they arent even in the same state..(paraphrased)
 
TNHarley said:
My cousin is one.
I just disagree with the way society handles it. I dont have a grudge against them except when they scream for special rights. Of course, i have a problem with any group that does that.
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What "special rights" are they looking for? They're just looking to be treated the same. In the article you've posted they say they are being harassed...is this your issue? Does that mean you think cis teachers are cool with being harassed, and wouldn't complain if they were the target, or that they don't have a right to a harassment free work place? WTF are you actually talking about? Do you even know?

I mean, at this point, I gotta ask. How old are you? I'm talking to a 17 year old, aren't I...
 
Like bathroom privileges
Like wanting unconstitutional anti discrimination laws at the fed level
Shall i state more or is this sufficient?
 
TNHarley said:
Like bathroom privileges
Like wanting unconstitutional anti discrimination laws at the fed level
Shall i state more or is this sufficient?
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The only bathroom privilages most of want is to use the bathroom that's correct for us. Last Oct I flew to PA from Texas, and using the restroom was nerve wracking, always afraid I'd run into an asshat.
 
Renae said:
The only bathroom privilages most of want is to use the bathroom that's correct for us. Last Oct I flew to PA from Texas, and using the restroom was nerve wracking, always afraid I'd run into an asshat.
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You'll never get that from Ted Cruz or Mike Pence. Just say'n.
 
Renae said:
The only bathroom privilages most of want is to use the bathroom that's correct for us. Last Oct I flew to PA from Texas, and using the restroom was nerve wracking, always afraid I'd run into an asshat.
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I agree people should use their proper restroom.
If you are a male, go to the female bathroom. If you are a female, go to the female bathroom.
If you are a "dude", go to the female bathroom. If you are a "chick" go to the male bathroom.
This isnt Rome and we dont have bath houses like that anymore.
 
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