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The Future of the MeToo-Movement/ Fighting abuse of power

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I'd like to know your opinions about those questions since I've been thinking a lot about these myself lately:

Can the #MeToo movement have a lasting impact for women in a business environment?

What behavioural shifts and social changes are most effective in fighting abuses of power and sexual harassment?

Thank you for your answers!
 
One has to be careful of unintended side effects. Care must be taken that the simple act of a man hiring a woman (or vice versa) does not become seen as taking an unnecessary risk of facing life altering allegations of sexual misconduct. If one is fired or simply passed over for a raise or promotion then the fear of facing even completely false and unfounded allegations of sexual misconduct or gender discrimination from them may alter hiring decisions. Obviously, the surest way to avoid problems with "protected class" employees is simply not to employ them.
 
I think it is an important movement and I hope it has a positive impact. But I also fear it is in the process of being hijacked by some who were merely offended by something as opposed to actually being victimized. It is just something we need to be on the cognizant of.
 
It should have a positive impact, however the feminist movement is very much involved.
Anything pushed by the feminist movement ends up becoming lunacy.




Margaret Atwood faces feminist backlash on social media over #MeToo

The Canadian author’s defence of due process for those accused of sexual misconduct sparked online ire
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jan/15/margaret-atwood-feminist-backlash-metoo


I see sex assault/harassment will become trivialized in the long run - and women will lose their credibility.
Full circle. Thanks to the moron feminazis.


It's headed that way....


#MeToo has already received a fair share of criticism, for everything from trivializing sexual abuse — the blanket hashtag fails to discriminate between a “me too” for a catcall and a “me too” for sexual assault — and the standard complaint about social media, which is that it’s all talk and no action.

Sadly, some people would rather cast stones at all men — and cast all women as victims. That sure is a lot easier, isn’t it? Unfortunately, it does the opposite of good.
Where #MeToo goes off the rails - Chicago Tribune






#MeToo has lumped trivial in with legitimate sexual assault

https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/



'Unfair to men': Margaret Wente criticizes #MeToo campaign for ramping up outrage
'Unfair to men': Margaret Wente criticizes #MeToo campaign for ramping up outrage - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio
 
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I'd like to know your opinions about those questions since I've been thinking a lot about these myself lately:

Can the #MeToo movement have a lasting impact for women in a business environment?

What behavioural shifts and social changes are most effective in fighting abuses of power and sexual harassment?

Thank you for your answers!

First the me-too movement is nothing but a virtue signal. Anything with a hashtag in front of it is vapid self-aggrandizement.

I think it's odd that this movement really let's be honest Twitter trend came from the worst of us Hollywood. It seems that industry is overloaded with predators. Strange that we see most of the virtue signals from that.

The casting couch only exists because people will do anything to be famous. People in that industry but only have power over you if you allow them to.

Sexual harassment is a serious issue and people that blow their way to the top co-opting it really does a lot of damage.

Look at Aziz Ansari. He asked a woman to blow him and she obliged then said she was sexually assaulted she ever wonder why people don't take it seriously it's that.
 
It should have a positive impact, however the feminist movement is very much involved.
Anything pushed by the feminist movement ends up becoming lunacy.
Feminism like many other things contains within it ideologues. They create a narrative that cannot be questioned. Similar to religions. And people will ignite reality, misrepresent criticisms and call legitimate criticisms attacks.

Feminists have co opted the virtue signaling meme and destroyed it.

Attacking Aziz ansari for having consensual sex with a woman because she regretted it is the memes death nail.
 
Not unless you can change man's instincts...and that ain't gonna happen...lol
 
I'd like to know your opinions about those questions since I've been thinking a lot about these myself lately:

Can the #MeToo movement have a lasting impact for women in a business environment?

What behavioural shifts and social changes are most effective in fighting abuses of power and sexual harassment?

Thank you for your answers!
I was going to sexual harassment classes in the early 90's and it was supposedly a big deal then, did it change much in the last 20 plus years? There is your answer.
 
There is no future, it is the victimhood movement de jour...

That's not to say that the problem isn't real, concerning or needing to be addressed.

It's just this bandwagon **** isn't going to do it.
 
I've had growing trepidation as I've watched what started with finally exposing one of the biggest predators in Hollywood-Harvey Weinstein-turn into a hashtag movement that's been cheapened by women who have willingly engaged in sexual relationships with men (and regretted it? were hurt??) play victim and silly, worthless stunts like the #wearblack "protests" at these circle-jerk award shows.
To say that the movement has gotten away from what it started out being is just such an understatement. Of course exposing abusers, assaulters, rapists and extremely misogynistic people in power is very important, but let's be cautious about who we lump in with women who have suffered real abuse and attacks, and which men are Harvey Weinsteins.
If you are a young, beautiful production assistant who bangs Matt Lauer 10 minutes after he buys you lunch and volunteers to be slammed up against the wall in a public bathroom on his whim? No #metoo for you!
If a famous actor buys you a cheap dinner and whisks you back to his apartment before you can finish chewing you last bite of a lobster roll? He just want to f*ck you. Placating him with oral won't make him want to meet your parents or know any of your deep thoughts, your favorite Nicholas Sparks novel or even your last name.
Fun factoid? Of course not. Worst night of your life? Bye, Felicia.

And women have to be honest about our part in this cycle of abuse. First, be smart and cautious. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Try not to make stupid choices!

Second, save some blame for the women who are willing to use their assets and provide sex for money and opportunity. They hurt women like me who aren't willing to "play the game", let alone provide sex.
Third, don't take money to keep your mouth shut, or, just keep your mouth shut so you can get ahead when you know damn well more women will be hurt.
Say something. Help a sister out!

That's all for now:2wave:
 
Drastic pendulum swings take time to correct.

The more you try to suppress reaction, the longer it will continue in bigger swings.
 
There is no future, it is the victimhood movement de jour...

That's not to say that the problem isn't real, concerning or needing to be addressed.

It's just this bandwagon **** isn't going to do it.

Agreed. Men need to realize that they are not now, or ever were, the victims here.
 
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