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Father Kills 14 Year-Old Son: 'He Would Rather Have a Dead Son Than a Gay Son'

yankintx said:
Its not a choice believe that one. I would have loved to have born straight, but I was given no choice.
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That is an easy thing to say. And difficult to prove.
 
Dittohead not! said:
So, you were equally attracted to males and females, and made a conscious choice to be hetero?

Most of us had that choice made by biology.
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No, there was clearly only one choice for me, and I made it. There were other choices for the straight, but confused. I chose not to go that way. Everyone has, and makes a choice for one or the other, and to tell it like it is, or isn't.
 
Borkazork said:
I suppose you also chose what color your eyes were going to be and any mental illneses you might have.
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So, you know it's really.a mental illness, huh?

You are to be honored for telling it like it is.
 
RamFel said:
No, there was clearly only one choice for me, and I made it. There were other choices for the straight, but confused. I chose not to go that way. Everyone has, and makes a choice for one or the other, and to tell it like it is, or isn't.
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I'm sorry you have lead a life where you couldn't be yourself. But the only time you have to "choose" anything to do with sexual orientation is to "choose" to lie to yourself and be something you're not. I realize that at the time you discovered you are gay, given your age, it was probably easier to "choose" to live life as a straight person. But to continue that stigma because you're bitter at who you had to be isn't the answer. Gay or straight, you never have to "choose" your nature, in the same way I didn't "choose" to be white....or straight, for that matter. It's never too late to be yourself, though.
 
RamFel said:
No, there was clearly only one choice for me, and I made it. There were other choices for the straight, but confused. I chose not to go that way. Everyone has, and makes a choice for one or the other, and to tell it like it is, or isn't.
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In other words, your choice was made for you by biology. So was mine. So was that of the 14 year old kid in the OP story
 
RamFel said:
No, there was clearly only one choice for me, and I made it. There were other choices for the straight, but confused. I chose not to go that way. Everyone has, and makes a choice for one or the other, and to tell it like it is, or isn't.
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If there is only one choice then there is no choice.
 
RamFel said:
So, you know it's really.a mental illness, huh?

You are to be honored for telling it like it is.
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Nothing that he said had anything to do with your homophobia.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
I can't tell if you say vile things because you want to provoke a reaction or because you're vile yourself. What do you think?
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i thought it odd that the father assigned the kid a 'gay' name and then killed him for being gay
 
justabubba said:
i thought it odd that the father assigned the kid a 'gay' name and then killed him for being gay
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Giovanni translates to John. So I ask you again, are you just trying to provoke a reaction or are you just a terrible person?
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
Giovanni translates to John. So I ask you again, are you just trying to provoke a reaction or are you just a terrible person?
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the father assigned his kid a 'gay' name, giovanni (NOT john, or hank, or buck), and then murdered his son for being gay
seems an odd contradiction
 
RamFel said:
I have a step-grandson who just recently announced to his parents that he is gay. His natural mother doesn't like it, but has accepted his choice. His step father as well. And I have also accepted it. Not because I think he is doing the right thing. He is not. But because I refuse to be the source of his unhappiness. He does not know how I really feel, and that's just the way I like it. Then there is a 40 something nephew, same story on my attitude toward his choice.
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Sexuality is never a choice. Don't fake love to your relatives. Mean it.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
List for me "the gay names".
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He's just being inflammatory it'd be best to pretend he doesn't exist like his parents do.

Even if he farts out a list there won't be any rhyme or reason to it beyond flat out bigotry. He's just one of the six or so people here who feeds on attention which is why he is constantly posting things that are obvious reaction bait.
 
Borkazork said:
He's just being inflammatory it'd be best to pretend he doesn't exist like his parents do.

Even if he farts out a list there won't be any rhyme or reason to it beyond flat out bigotry. He's just one of the six or so people here who feeds on attention which is why he is constantly posting things that are obvious reaction bait.
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Thanks for the insight and advice. I'll take it.
 
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