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New AI can guess whether you're gay or straight from a photograph

WCH said:
I never said anything about violence or threats of any sort. That would be your obsession.
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Why do you think they were in the closet?

Apparently you miss those days.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Someone else doing it doesn't mean it's ok for you to do. It's still just as rude and disrespectful as it would be otherwise.

I don't think alcohol changes your personality. Leave people alone when they tell you to leave them alone.
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It's more about the individual than the times. My recollection of 30 years ago was that when someone wasn't interested you accepted that and moved on to greener pastures, no biggie.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Lulz. No. Gay has never been a 'fad' in any meaningful way.
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Weeeelll, that's not quite and totally true. Being gay or bi was quite in in certain quarters and everyone loved the thought of what it would be to be a hemaphrodite. Even trying it with children was discussed and to that purpose legalisation was attempted. Free love and sex were everywhere. It was a fad in the sense that this cooled down and became a more demanding demand by activists. So I understand you thinking it more quotidian now that the novelty excitement has passed on.
 
joG said:
Weeeelll, that's not quite and totally true. Being gay or bi was quite in in certain quarters and everyone loved the thought of what it would be to be a hemaphrodite. Even trying it with children was discussed and to that purpose legalisation was attempted. Free love and sex were everywhere. It was a fad in the sense that this cooled down and became a more demanding demand by activists. So I understand you thinking it more quotidian now that the novelty excitement has passed on.
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Yawn. None of which is based in reality.
 
Winchester said:
It's more about the individual than the times. My recollection of 30 years ago was that when someone wasn't interested you accepted that and moved on to greener pastures, no biggie.
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Oh, I'm sure. But some people will make any excuse...
 
joG said:
Weeeelll, that's not quite and totally true. Being gay or bi was quite in in certain quarters and everyone loved the thought of what it would be to be a hemaphrodite. Even trying it with children was discussed and to that purpose legalisation was attempted. Free love and sex were everywhere. It was a fad in the sense that this cooled down and became a more demanding demand by activists. So I understand you thinking it more quotidian now that the novelty excitement has passed on.
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Were you that parent who believed every flier you saw about outlandish things the kids were supposedly doing? Not sure if you're aware, but pedophiles still exist, and have nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality.

Anyway, there's an easy explanation for why there seemed to be groups of gay people for a while.

Because they had to live in ghettos, dude. So they all wound up in the same spot because no other part of town was safe for them.

There are not fewer gay people. They've simply integrated more.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Were you that parent who believed every flier you saw about outlandish things the kids were supposedly doing? Not sure if you're aware, but pedophiles still exist, and have nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality.

Anyway, there's an easy explanation for why there seemed to be groups of gay people for a while.

Because they had to live in ghettos, dude. So they all wound up in the same spot because no other part of town was safe for them.

There are not fewer gay people. They've simply integrated more.
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Maybe, where you come from. That is really very sad.
 
joG said:
Maybe, where you come from. That is really very sad.
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Uh, no. It's a pretty well-documented phenomenon basically everywhere in the West up until relatively recently. Why do you think so many cities have a gay-borhood?

Those used to be gay ghettos, dude.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Gee, I'm sorry you have to pretend your fantasies are reality.
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Which ones? The fact that gay was cool, the faddisness of Fellini's and Pasolini's view of sex or that software can spot gays from passport type photos better than humans?
 
joG said:
Which ones? The fact that gay was cool, the faddisness of Fellini's and Pasolini's view of sex or that software can spot gays from passport type photos better than humans?
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Being gay has never been a 'fad', no matter how desperately you need it to have been.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Uh, no. It's a pretty well-documented phenomenon basically everywhere in the West up until relatively recently. Why do you think so many cities have a gay-borhood?

Those used to be gay ghettos, dude.
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Research done a long time ago by Abt Associates for the government showed that persons of even slight affinities tended migrate into *** hoods. This is as true of artists or hippies as it is for professionals, gays or Blacks. Where the affinities overlap with those of other groups the strength of preferences will determine the area one settles.
 
joG said:
Research done a long time ago by Abt Associates for the government showed that persons of even slight affinities tended migrate into *** hoods. This is as true of artists or hippies as it is for professionals, gays or Blacks. Where the affinities overlap with those of other groups the strength of preferences will determine the area one settles.
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So basically you just admitted that I'm right that there was never any "gay fad," just marginalized people sticking together.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
So basically you just admitted that I'm right that there was never any "gay fad," just marginalized people sticking together.
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No. Not really. As a matter of fact, those 'marginalized' people were actually quite privileged and open about whatever the passing passion was. Not as in your face maybe as Christopher Street Day, but just matter of fact the thing to do. It was easier to live near, where the action was in Soho than where it was not and you had to drive.
 
joG said:
No. Not really. As a matter of fact, those 'marginalized' people were actually quite privileged and open about whatever the passing passion was. Not as in your face maybe as Christopher Street Day, but just matter of fact the thing to do. It was easier to live near, where the action was in Soho than where it was not and you had to drive.
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Uh, actually, their neighborhoods were extremely deprived and poor for decades. Those were the only places they could go and not be chased out.

They've only become more well-off in the last 20 years. Even in the 90's in Minneapolis, I remember going, and it was still definitely a poor ghetto full of people who'd been dumped by their own families when they were still children, and totally neglected by the community.

Gay ghettos, as recently as the late 20th century, were places full of semi-homeless teenagers with PTSD.

Why do you think gay men used to have older gay "mothers"? To replace the ones who dumped them in a ghetto.

You clearly know nothing about any of this.
 
RAMOSS said:
I don't think it serves ANY Good purpose in and of itself. It, however, can show that certain qualities are not a choice, and give information about nature vs nurture.
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It wouldn't be very good support for nature versus nurture. Body development even brain development isn't based strictly on genetics.
 
Certain bakeries and florists may be interested in the technology.
 
nota bene said:
I saw this linked on Drudge this morning and clicked. It's an algorithm that is claimed to be up to 91% accurate. The Stanford University research has been published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology by Michal Kosinski and Yilun Wang. https://www.economist.com/news/scie...es-are-coming-advances-ai-are-used-spot-signs

My concern is what good purpose this could have?

From the Guardian:

The study from Stanford University – which found that a computer algorithm could correctly distinguish between gay and straight men 81% of the time, and 74% for women – has raised questions about the biological origins of sexual orientation, the ethics of facial-detection technology and the potential for this kind of software to violate people’s privacy or be abused for anti-LGBT purposes.

...The paper suggested that the findings provide “strong support” for the theory that sexual orientation stems from exposure to certain hormones before birth, meaning people are born gay and being queer is not a choice. The machine’s lower success rate for women also could support the notion that female sexual orientation is more fluid. https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ether-youre-gay-or-straight-from-a-photograph
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It would be great way to determine which bathroom you belong in

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