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Would you be friends with a Transgender person? 27% say no.[W:151]

Would you be friends with a Transgender person?


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Anyone who works with those folks who denies that there's a lot of psychiatric co-morbidity isn't very observant.

If you prefer science done by white people then do a search in pubmed.gov on transgender psychiatric co-morbidity. Yes, a lot of it is thought to be due to oppression (although other even more oppressed groups, like black men, don't have increased suicide rates, etc.) but that their is increased psychiatric co-morbidity is very clear.

Surely you can see the problem with using science from a regressive, theocratic nation? These are the same people that execute people for blasphemy but don't have the death penalty for fathers that kill their own daughters.
 
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Joe Rogan had too interesting guests on this episode of his how. Both are professors that stirred up controversy. I guess Jordan Peterson is a conservative but the other professor is a liberal and one that got bullied on the university campus where he works, by intolerant liberal students and staff.

At roughly the 31:00 minute mark of the video the discussion veers into the realm of science, and biological science, and the liberal professor makes a point (one in fact I have made millions of times myself) that the science of evolutionary biology is inherently Politically Incorrect. First off, as I have mentioned many times over, the natural sciences do not pontificate on morality, they simply observe (e.g. wolves "murdering" moose) and try to come up with rational explanations drawn from a series of facts (like a homicide detective, but just as homicide detectives can get facts right but conclusions and suspects wrong, so to can scientist get their conclusions wrong--particularly when motivated by a political and social bias), to the point of being amoral (the things they observe).

So, the liberal professor says that the science of biology will be increasingly forced to submit to the reigning political and cultural authorities in the Western World. He brings up "Russia" (the Soviet Union or communist Russia he means) as an historical past example for a reason. Not many people realize that atheist left-wing Russia during its communist era essentially outlawed de facto, The biological Theory of Evolution. Consequently, it is said that communist Russia's advances in the biological sciences fell far behind the Western democratic capitalist world. I didn't know about this until several years ago. My view is that atheists in the West have successfully gotten the intellectual liberal world to promote a "blue wall of silence" around the errors and intolerance of the former atheist states of the Soviet empire. And then to promote a propaganda war on Christianity that exceeds in scale and rigor anything these liars assert the modern day Russians under Putin (possibly the greatest world leader on earth and modern day Constantine the Great) are in unholy manner attacking the United States and seeking to destroy it. Well then... that would mean atheist, liberal, academia is in unholy manner attacking Christianity and seeing to destroy it. Of course they (atheists) deny this.

So, the atheist states of the former Soviet Union, as I recall from what I read several years ago in a book, demanded (essentially) that the science of biology construct its narratives and explanations to align with and promote the communist's outlook upon the world of a struggle between capitalist rich people (artificially made so by being swindlers that are morally inferior) and basically the working people. Communist atheist Russia persecuted homosexuals for a period by the way. Some were sent to the gulags (which I would argue is more severe than refusing to perform a gay wedding in a Catholic Church).



I've only watched up to the 32:45 mark of the video, so, things were probably said after that they may contradict some things I said above. Not sure.


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Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist and tenured professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. You can check out all Dr. Peterson's self-improvement writing programs at Self Authoring - Plan a Better Life

Bret Weinstein is a biology professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. Currently he is in the middle of an intense controversy that has been documented by the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and several other mainstream media outlets.
 
Why not? If they are a pleasant and friendly person who is a good fit for you friend wise, then why would one not be friends with a transgendered person?

I could not think of a reason on earth why I would not be friends with one, if I liked them as a friend.
 
https://today.yougov.com/news/2017/05/17/21-americans-believe-identifying-transgender-menta/


I found that shockingly and shamefully high for americans.


Would you be friends with a Transgender person?
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The poll is basically a sham, because it doesn't even come close to correlating to the study. It's a big shamefest because you decided to make the poll not anonymous. That could clearly skew the data. What's the chance of 90% of DP voting to be friends when the study shows only 27% of US adults would do the same. So we just happen to have all the friends of transgenders here? Shockingly astounding!
 
What do you mean by "friend"? Associates at work/acquaintances, or someone I would spend leisure time with and confide in? If your answer is the later, then my answer is probably not...

What if you meet a transgender person out "witnessing" and they showed interest in the "truth" would you associate with them. If they were to progress in the "truth" would you then become friends with them?

Jesus associated with prostitutes.
 
What if you meet a transgender person out "witnessing" and they showed interest in the "truth" would you associate with them. If they were to progress in the "truth" would you then become friends with them?

Jesus associated with prostitutes.

Of course...Jesus witnessed to prostitutes, encouraging them to turn around and sin no more...for those who would not listen, he continued on, preaching the Word of God to those who would listen...
 
Of course...Jesus witnessed to prostitutes, encouraging them to turn around and sin no more...for those who would not listen, he continued on, preaching the Word of God to those who would listen...

Prostitution is not a sin.
 
Could I be friends with someone who is transgendered? I suppose. My criteria of friendship isn't based along those lines. I don't personally know any transgendered individuals, however.
 
You really need to read the link I posted if you want to understand my point

I observe that conversation is not important to you.
 
I observe that conversation is not important to you.

You need to go back reread what I posted because I have no clue how you got to where you are from there.
 
Being friends doesn't mean i accept his lifestyle.
 
Being friends doesn't mean i accept his lifestyle.

And, what 'lifestyle' is that?

Going to work, having pets,and a house and car?
 
And, what 'lifestyle' is that?

Going to work, having pets,and a house and car?

Well if they dont have a car how are they going to drive me places?
 
People are born as a member of a gender biologically. Gender really has little to do with anything outside of biology.

They may imagine that they have a different assignment.

That said, they can have desires and proclivities that are not in line with their biological gender and may elect to take steps to fulfill their resulting goals.

Our language probably will evolve to better encompass this.

What does any of that have to do with "imagined orentation"
 
Rachael Dolozeal had two very white parents and 4 very white grandparents. She is a natural strawberry blond with pale skin and freckles. Is she black just because she really really believes she is black?
What? what does "belief" have to do with imagination orentation or transgender. You really don't know anything about this topic do you as other have pointed out.
You will say "what does that have to do with sexual orientation?" The answer to that question is nothing...but everything about the issue of 'choice'. Trans-everything comes down to feelings and choice in opposition to science and genetics. Therefore "imagined" orientation is either real and available to all or it isn't.


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Well you just doubled down on pure fantasy thank you for proving what we already assumed you have no idea what you are talking about. Transgender is NOT choice. Wow SMH
Imagined orientation has nothign to do with the topic at all. Actually if you had even a basic understanding of this issue you would know orientation all by itself has NOTHING to do with the topic. It's as dumb as thinking a 4, 6 or 8 cylinder engine means its a truck or car. they are not related haha
 
The poll is basically a sham, because it doesn't even come close to correlating to the study. It's a big shamefest because you decided to make the poll not anonymous. That could clearly skew the data. What's the chance of 90% of DP voting to be friends when the study shows only 27% of US adults would do the same. So we just happen to have all the friends of transgenders here? Shockingly astounding!

You might want to read the poll again before your post looks even more stupid. The poll shows 73% would be friends with transgenders and the 27% are the people that would NOT. I found that disgustingly and disappointedly high. So I wanted to see how people felt here and at DP its a little better here only 9% say they wouldn't. So the only sham here is the mistake in your post of reacting before you knew what was going on.
 
I thought being gender fluid was something you choose. It's either that, or they have a mental disorder.

transsexual is not 'gender fluid'. I do not have enough information about what people mean when they say 'gender fluid' .. or if it is indeed a choice or not. I do not think it would be a mental disorder, by the definitions we have of what a mental disorder is.
 
Why not? If they are a pleasant and friendly person who is a good fit for you friend wise, then why would one not be friends with a transgendered person?

I could not think of a reason on earth why I would not be friends with one, if I liked them as a friend.

I would. And I would hope they wouldn't mind if I ask questions, as I'd find it fascinating.
 
I would. And I would hope they wouldn't mind if I ask questions, as I'd find it fascinating.

I would not like to associate with a transgender person as a friend. Someone who is lying about something as major as their sex cannot be trusted to tell the truth about pretty much anything. Friendship has to be based on truth and trust.
 

I would not like to associate with a transgender person as a friend. Someone who is lying about something as major as their sex cannot be trusted to tell the truth about pretty much anything. Friendship has to be based on truth and trust.

What does "lying" have to do with transgenders? You have no clue what transgenderism is do you? Could you tell us what you think it is please.
 
What does "lying" have to do with transgenders? You have no clue what transgenderism is do you? Could you tell us what you think it is please.

Deception is not lying? A man dressing up like a woman and taking female hormones in order to be perceived as a female is nothing but deception and hence a lie.
 
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