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Would you be friends with a Transgender person? 27% say no.[W:151]

Would you be friends with a Transgender person?


  • Total voters
    90
What do you mean by "friend"? Associates at work/acquaintances, or someone I would spend leisure time with and confide in? If your answer is the later, then my answer is probably not...

A real friend, yes one you would hang out with and or confide in. One you might do something socially with, text or call. Invite over to a party at your house or go to a part at thiers.
 
https://today.yougov.com/news/2017/05/17/21-americans-believe-identifying-transgender-menta/


I found that shockingly and shamefully high for americans.


Would you be friends with a Transgender person?
Yes
No

While I don't know any transgendered people, I cannot imagine that I would not befriend one so long as he/she didn't interfere with my liberties, choices, opportunities, or options or demand that I be somebody different than who I am in order to be acceptable and didn't play the accordian. (I'm kidding about the accordian.) That's no different than what I require of friends who aren't transgendered too.
 
While I don't know any transgendered people
As far as you know you mean. You might.

I cannot imagine that I would not befriend one so long as he/she didn't interfere with my liberties, choices, opportunities, or options or demand that I be somebody different than who I am in order to be acceptable and didn't play the accordian. (I'm kidding about the accordian.) That's no different than what I require of friends who aren't transgendered too.
In general I'd guess that's what most people want in friends with in reason.
 
Actually, I had already answered it earlier I feel that you are just trying to be a nuisance.

And yet no matter how you feel neither are true. :shrug:
 
I imagine I would if they were a decent person, here in Podunk Arcadia Fl, they are in short supply! lol

Short supply huh? haha, How do you know?
 
Well lets just say they are not obvious, this area is largely conservative rednecks and cattle ranchers and orange groves. They could probably live in peace but they feel shunned in public. Not that I would do so.

Got it, well there are many that aren't obvious. But yes "stereotypically" you are right, anybody who would switch while living there their whole lives MIGHT find it harder but there are transgender rednecks and cattle ranchers ;)
 
What do you mean by "friend"? Associates at work/acquaintances, or someone I would spend leisure time with and confide in? If your answer is the later, then my answer is probably not...

Me too Elvira. I'll join you in the deplorable pen.
 
To respond 'no' is inherently supremacist, right?
 
Been thinking on this a bit.


Like I said, tmk it has never come up in my circle of friends and close acquaintances to this point.

If it did, I'm not entirely sure how I would react. It would depend on the totality of the circumstances.

I'm not saying I would instantly and automatically reject them entirely if I found out someone I knew was transgender. I don't generally behave that way towards folks, unless they've done something really awful.

It's an issue I'm very uncomfortable with and have mixed feelings about, and one I'm glad I don't currently have to deal with in my everyday life (that I know of).

Dating/etc would be entirely out of the question. I'd be very uncomfortable if the person wasn't up front to anyone they got involved with about their background, seems like a deception to me.

On the whole I think it is probably a mental illness, like any other delusion where a person thinks they are something they clearly are not. I'm not sure treating it by turning them into a surgical facsimile of their preferred gender is really the best idea... we don't do that for someone who thinks they're a dolphin, for instance. (apologies for the South Park reference there).


Then again, I wouldn't abandon a good friend who was suffering from depression or other mental illness.


So anyway, my "no" isn't a an absolute "no"... its more of an "I'd rather not have to deal with this" and an "I'm not sure how I would handle this" rather than an outright "no."
 
On the whole I think it is probably a mental illness, like any other delusion where a person thinks they are something they clearly are not.

Just an FYI it's not a delusion in anyway. If they are born male or female they are FULLY aware they are born male or female. They are fully aware they have a penis or a vagina. None of them are delusional and see a vagina where there is a penis and vice versa. They don't have any false beliefs. Besides people judging them the fact that they understand they have a penis or vigina is actually the second thing that causes them the most stress. It's their ability to know that reality that makes things so hard for them. Sounds weird but if they were delusional it would probably be an easier life because what you told them and what people thought wouldn't matter nor what they say in the mirror would matter. Another way to put it if you were delusional and thought you were a stormtrooper or a jedi (like me ;) ) that's simply what you would be if I asked you. You would have no concept or understanding of anything else because you are delusional, this is not the case on any level for transgenders.
 
Just an FYI it's not a delusion in anyway. If they are born male or female they are FULLY aware they are born male or female. They are fully aware they have a penis or a vagina. None of them are delusional and see a vagina where there is a penis and vice versa. They don't have any false beliefs. Besides people judging them the fact that they understand they have a penis or vigina is actually the second thing that causes them the most stress. It's their ability to know that reality that makes things so hard for them. Sounds weird but if they were delusional it would probably be an easier life because what you told them and what people thought wouldn't matter nor what they say in the mirror would matter. Another way to put it if you were delusional and thought you were a stormtrooper or a jedi (like me ;) ) that's simply what you would be if I asked you. You would have no concept or understanding of anything else because you are delusional, this is not the case on any level for transgenders.


Ok. Delusion is probably not the right word, but I'm not a shrinkologist.

CC has convinced me it is a real thing. That is, real in the sense that they really believe they're supposed to be of the other gender, and it is not something they can easily ignore or just "snap out of".

But, let's say for the sake of argument I was entirely convinced that I was supposed to only have one arm. Obviously I have two. Let's say I know that, but I feel a disconnect with my body that disturbs me a great deal. I have severe issues with it and feel a disconnect with my unwanted arm.

If I'm not mistaken that's an actual mental illness, though I can't recall the name for it.

Amputating that arm is not, tmk, considered a good or mainstream way of treating that mental condition. Pretty sure the standard treatment is trying to get the person to not feel that way about their unwanted limb.


That's sort of how I feel about gender reassignment surgery. I think it is a drastic, physical solution to a mental issue that would be handled differently if it weren't such a political issue in society. I've seen studies indicating that most reassigned transgenders continue having problems afterward.

Doesn't seem like a good idea, to me.


Now, I'm just me, and that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to make my opinion law, or stop anyone from doing what they (and their therapist) think is best for them.


Renae says she is happy with her transition. Ok. My response was that I don't claim to understand all this stuff, but I wish you well and hope things work out for you.


No hate, see? I'm hoping everyone takes note of that: no hate involved, mmkay?


But I can't *personally* see someone who has transitioned as their reassigned gender, not in my heart of hearts. I'm sorry but that's just how I see it.

I'm guessing this viewpoint would not be too conducive to maintaining a close friendship. Now I could shut up about it... once I've spoke my piece I don't have to keep on hammering on it, its like "Ok you know where I stand, we don't have to keep talking about it.... so, where are we going to lunch today?"


I don't claim to fully understand it all, and I'm not trying to tell anybody else what to do. Just 'splaining why I'm uncomfortable with it all and glad it isn't something I'm dealing with at this point.
 
Just watching them and talking with them in the city venues. There were a lot, where I used to live and my impression is that you are wrong albeit pc.
Not sure what "city venues" you're talking about but I suspect you're thinking exclusively of the cross-dressing performer types (who may or may not be actually transgender) and allowing that to feed a generalised negative stereotype. The majority of transgender people are just normal people living normal boring lives just like the rest of us. As others have already mentioned, quite a few you wouldn't necessarily even realise are transgender and will often not want to shout about it, especially among strangers.
 
Would you call her a friend?

I have a number of virtual friends on DP. Those are the people who cut me some slack, treat me with respect, don't play gotcha games and have my back occasionally. Even put me in my place now and then. Neither you nor she fall into that category. But I respect you both and enjoy interacting with both of you.

Now, why are you asking?
 
I have a number of virtual friends on DP. Those are the people who cut me some slack, treat me with respect, don't play gotcha games and have my back every once in a while. Neither you nor she fall into that category. But I respect you both and enjoy interacting with both of you.

Now, why are you asking?

Maybe I was just imagining it, but you two seemed to get along particularly well, and I assumed you two were buddies. That assumption was called into question when you said you didn't know if any of your friends were transgender.
 
Maybe I was just imagining it, but you two seemed to get along particularly well, and I assumed you two were buddies. That assumption was called into question when you said you didn't know if any of your friends were transgender.

Interesting. I define "friend" perhaps a little differently than you. "Friendly" might better describe my relationship with Renae. And you as well. There are some posters who are prickly as porcupines. I describe them, if pressed, as interesting and fun.
 
Interesting. I define "friend" perhaps a little differently than you. "Friendly" might better describe my relationship with Renae. And you as well. There are some posters who are prickly as porcupines. I describe them, if pressed, as interesting and fun.

I will admit I have a wide definition for the term friend. Regardless, my curiosity has been sated. Thank you for answering my questions.
 
Not sure what "city venues" you're talking about but I suspect you're thinking exclusively of the cross-dressing performer types (who may or may not be actually transgender) and allowing that to feed a generalised negative stereotype. The majority of transgender people are just normal people living normal boring lives just like the rest of us. As others have already mentioned, quite a few you wouldn't necessarily even realise are transgender and will often not want to shout about it, especially among strangers.

Less the performers and more the folks hanging around in the cafes and bars. Not much difference to the performers quite often.
As to the ones that don't make an ado, I see no issue?
 
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