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In A Heartbeat (Short Animation). Does the Message Resonate with You?

Does this Video Resonate Positive to You?

  • Definitely Positive.

    Votes: 11 84.6%

  • I"m not sure.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, this is not a good nmessage.

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Total voters
    13
Captain Adverse

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I just ran across this video via an "Elder's React" YouTube Channel.

I decided to post the original video in the Forum to test our member reactions.



I think this video sends a positive message to our youth, especially those concerned about their sexuality.

What do YOU think?
 
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It's ****ing adorable.

Like man way to tug on the heartstrings.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I just ran across this video via an "Elder's React" YouTube Channel.

I decided to post the original video in the Forum to test our member reactions.



I think this video sends a positive message to our youth, especially those concerned about their sexuality.

What do YOU think?
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It was a heartwarming video. And a positive messages never really a bad thing.

However the message we should be sending to our children especially the ones going through this questioning of their sexuality is that you don't have to do anything to prove it to anybody.
 
Wow, small world! That's a senior thesis short from my alma mater, Ringling.


As for the message....I will reply with an equally apt quote from Dumbledore, from the potter series....

"Ah, to be young again, and to feel loves keen sting."


Heart wants what the heart wants.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I just ran across this video via an "Elder's React" YouTube Channel.

I decided to post the original video in the Forum to test our member reactions.



I think this video sends a positive message to our youth, especially those concerned about their sexuality.

What do YOU think?
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Wow, OF CORUSE it does!!! It's done VERY well. Its heart warming and its about fear and insecurities and a teachable moments etc, it awesome!






But of course the entertainment will begin sooner or later when the bigoted snowflakes lose their minds over this (even though the reality is the message is universal) LMAO
 
AGENT J said:
Wow, OF CORUSE it does!!! It's done VERY well. Its heart warming and its about fear and insecurities and a teachable moments etc, it awesome!






But of course the entertainment will begin sooner or later when the bigoted snowflakes lose their minds over this (even though the reality is the message is universal) LMAO
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It was done by a 21-22 year old.



Mind blowing.
 
I don't see the message as either positive or negative. I think we're projecting that, and I'd wager, the younger folk don't even see what we're "seeing".

Let me ask you all something...if the subject of the protagonists desire were female, would we view it any differently? Something tells me the younger crowd wouldn't. We see it as profound only because we are set in our ways.
 
KevinKohler said:
It was done by a 21-22 year old.

Mind blowing.
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Thats impressive but I dont think its that mind blowing actually. The feelings/reality of love and social interactions are a pretty universal thing and a 21-22 year old is more than capable of expressing them at that level. NOT TAKING AWAY FROM IT, i just dont rank it as mind blowing thats all.
 
KevinKohler said:
I don't see the message as either positive or negative. I think we're projecting that, and I'd wager, the younger folk don't even see what we're "seeing".

Let me ask you all something...if the subject of the protagonists desire were female, would we view it any differently? Something tells me the younger crowd wouldn't. We see it as profound only because we are set in our ways.
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Nope, i would still see it as positive and the gender of the relationship doesnt effect that in anyway, as i said in my post already the message is universal
 
That's so ****ing cute.

It does a good job of sort of creating an arch that I think will also be relatable to a lot of LGBT kids.
 
KevinKohler said:
I don't see the message as either positive or negative. I think we're projecting that, and I'd wager, the younger folk don't even see what we're "seeing".

Let me ask you all something...if the subject of the protagonists desire were female, would we view it any differently? Something tells me the younger crowd wouldn't. We see it as profound only because we are set in our ways.
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I would still find it very cute, but it wouldn't carry the sort of social meaning it does.

We still live in a world where you're presumed straight until proven otherwise, and some families are still very unaccepting. Ugly coming outs are still very much a thing a lot of kids go through even now.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
That's so ****ing cute.

It does a good job of sort of creating an arch that I think will also be relatable to a lot of LGBT kids.
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Well seeing my partner work with youngsters (he is in the last phase of becoming a teacher) how kids feel about gay and lesbian kids is very different from when I was in school. They don't care at all they are just other kids. Its kind of amazing to hear about it.

So maybe youngsters could relate to this but i honestly think all people can to some degree. How many people have wondered been afraid and even heart broken over the simple idea that someone you love doesn't love you back?
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I would still find it very cute, but it wouldn't carry the sort of social meaning it does.

We still live in a world where you're presumed straight until proven otherwise, and some families are still very unaccepting. Ugly coming outs are still very much a thing a lot of kids go through even now.
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Yes, this is true, but it seems to be less common these days.
 
Straight or LBGT.......things have come a long way in my lifetime.

You can't really help who you fall in love with.
 
AGENT J said:
Thats impressive but I dont think its that mind blowing actually. The feelings/reality of love and social interactions are a pretty universal thing and a 21-22 year old is more than capable of expressing them at that level. NOT TAKING AWAY FROM IT, i just dont rank it as mind blowing thats all.
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No no no....I mean, the ART is awesome. The quality of animation.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I would still find it very cute, but it wouldn't carry the sort of social meaning it does.

We still live in a world where you're presumed straight until proven otherwise, and some families are still very unaccepting. Ugly coming outs are still very much a thing a lot of kids go through even now.
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Oh, definitely cute....but I think we've come a very looong way on social acceptance for two dudes loving each other. Course, that's from my limited perspective. I have a lot of gay friends, most of whom had no issues, or minimal issues. In CT. **** could still be scary down south.
 
KevinKohler said:
Oh, definitely cute....but I think we've come a very looong way on social acceptance for two dudes loving each other. Course, that's from my limited perspective. I have a lot of gay friends, most of whom had no issues, or minimal issues. In CT. **** could still be scary down south.
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Dude, we put up a 19-year-old who got beaten to hell by his family for coming out, like, a year ago. And that's in London, so you better believe it still happens in America. It happened a few years ago in my own extended family, as a matter of fact -- which was also in the Northeast, by the way. So no, this is not just "a Southern thing." In fact, said family member wound up moving down South to Atlanta to get away from them, a city that has a thriving gay scene.

The anti-gay people are not gone. They are just a bit quieter now that they know they're a minority. But that doesn't stop them from turning on their kids from within the privacy of their own homes, unfortunately.
 
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KevinKohler said:
No no no....I mean, the ART is awesome. The quality of animation.
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ooooh lol well I dont think i know enough about that to be impressed . .sorry. I did think it looked very good but i got no back ground in that
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Dude, we put up a 19-year-old who got beaten to hell by his family for coming out, like, a year ago. And that's in London, so you better believe it still happens in America. It happened a few years ago in my own extended family, as a matter of fact -- which was also in the Northeast, by the way. So no, this is not just "a Southern thing." In fact, said family member wound up moving down South to Atlanta to get away from them, a city that has a thriving gay scene.

The anti-gay people are not gone. They are just a bit quieter now that they know they're a minority. But that doesn't stop them from turning on their kids from within the privacy of their own homes, unfortunately.
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Funny you mention the ATL, that's were most of my friends live, lol! Every year we go down to visit, and go to this gay karaoke bar called Mary's, and have a blast.
 
It's adorable, incredibly well done and in 4 minutes expresses a positive message to LGBT community, and everyone else, that love can be overwhelming, but the heart wants what the heart wants. I enjoyed it immensely.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Dude, we put up a 19-year-old who got beaten to hell by his family for coming out, like, a year ago.
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the simple fact that Society finds that repugnant means we've come a long way we've come a long way in my short lifetime because there was a time that I can remember where that was acceptable.

And that's in London, so you better believe it still happens in America.
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oh in London, that's interesting. Just out of curiosity are his parents Islamic?

I don't doubt it happens in America but we do find it repugnant just 15-20 years ago we would have found it less so that's progress.

It happened a few years ago in my own extended family, as a matter of fact -- which was also in the Northeast, by the way. So no, this is not just "a Southern thing." In fact, said family member wound up moving down South to Atlanta to get away from them, a city that has a thriving gay scene.
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it seems to be an isolated thing only occurring with familiar proximity to very religious people.

The anti-gay people are not gone. They are just a bit quieter now that they know they're a minority.
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an extreme minority with only one thread among them being common.

But that doesn't stop them from turning on their kids from within the privacy of their own homes, unfortunately.
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a parents get angry with their kids for all sorts of stupid reasons. Because they're atheist or they're wanting to convert two different religion or they want to do this for a living or they want to go to that college or they want to date this person or that person just say it's only or mostly occurring among gay people is kind of disingenuous.

There are parents that treat their children like accessories to boost to their social position. I had a friend who is disowned for dating a black woman. Another person I met told me he was disowned by his parents for leaving Islam. To be honest I only know one person I've only met one person in my life that was disowned for being gay and I married him.

So yes it's horrible and it should stop but I don't think it's as common of an occurrence as it is made out to be.
 
CLAX1911 said:
the simple fact that Society finds that repugnant means we've come a long way we've come a long way in my short lifetime because there was a time that I can remember where that was acceptable.

oh in London, that's interesting. Just out of curiosity are his parents Islamic?

I don't doubt it happens in America but we do find it repugnant just 15-20 years ago we would have found it less so that's progress.

it seems to be an isolated thing only occurring with familiar proximity to very religious people.

an extreme minority with only one thread among them being common.

a parents get angry with their kids for all sorts of stupid reasons. Because they're atheist or they're wanting to convert two different religion or they want to do this for a living or they want to go to that college or they want to date this person or that person just say it's only or mostly occurring among gay people is kind of disingenuous.

There are parents that treat their children like accessories to boost to their social position. I had a friend who is disowned for dating a black woman. Another person I met told me he was disowned by his parents for leaving Islam. To be honest I only know one person I've only met one person in my life that was disowned for being gay and I married him.

So yes it's horrible and it should stop but I don't think it's as common of an occurrence as it is made out to be.
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I know someone what was kicked out of the house, hit and disowned at age 19 when he came out as bi to his father (about 6 years ago). He was in Arkansas.. and has since married and has a kid. He still never talks to his father though.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I would still find it very cute, but it wouldn't carry the sort of social meaning it does.

We still live in a world where you're presumed straight until proven otherwise, and some families are still very unaccepting. Ugly coming outs are still very much a thing a lot of kids go through even now.
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Yep. I had a pretty bad coming out, although I've seen people that have had far worse experiences. But I think videos like this show that our society has come a long way in terms of acceptance of LGBT people.
 
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