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Was A Crime Committed Here??

i think this sets a very dangerous precedent.

however i could say i could see where this might be rape. she gave consent to kyle not this women.
or a person named kyle.
 
ludin said:
i think this sets a very dangerous precedent.

however i could say i could see where this might be rape. she gave consent to kyle not this women.
or a person named kyle.
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If my name is Bill, and I'm a $20,000 a year fast food employee, but I tell a girl my name is Steve and I make $120,000 a year as a test pilot for Boeing, and then we have sex four or five times before she finds out my true identity, did I rape her?
 
Dragonfly said:
If my name is Bill, and I'm a $20,000 a year fast food employee, but I tell a girl my name is Steve and I make $120,000 a year as a test pilot for Boeing, and then we have sex four or five times before she finds out my true identity, did I rape her?
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not the same thing. rape is done by a person not the things they have.
Rape by deception is a law actually.

it varies by state. yes if your name is bill and you say your name is steve then yes that would fall under the catagory.


and actually yes given your scenerio depending on where you are at you could be charged with rape by deception.
Rape by fraud: Mario Ambrose Antoine allegedly tricked dozens of women into having sex | The Kansas City Star
 
Dragonfly said:
Other than stupidity....

Woman who wore fake penis, tricked blindfolded friend into having sex with her sentenced | Fox News

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So a woman is stupid enough to agree to wear a blindfold every single time she meets this girl, and even agrees to sex with a blindfold....

The level of oddness here is astounding.

I'm having trouble understanding a crime of sexual assault. It was consensual sex. Blindfolded, but consensual. Idiotic, but consensual.

Other than gross-stupidity, was a crime committed here? Deserving of 6+ years in prison?
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yes she was stupid but i think you should have to be honest about your gender when asking for sex so sentence well deserved
 
Absentglare said:
I have no idea why you expect that a blindfolded woman would necessarily be able to discern a penis from a dildo.

All penises are unique, and many dildos are modeled after real penises.
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I defer to the expert!
 
Dragonfly said:
Other than stupidity....

Woman who wore fake penis, tricked blindfolded friend into having sex with her sentenced | Fox News

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So a woman is stupid enough to agree to wear a blindfold every single time she meets this girl, and even agrees to sex with a blindfold....

The level of oddness here is astounding.

I'm having trouble understanding a crime of sexual assault. It was consensual sex. Blindfolded, but consensual. Idiotic, but consensual.

Other than gross-stupidity, was a crime committed here? Deserving of 6+ years in prison?
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Consent based on fraud is not consent.
 
X Factor said:
Consent based on fraud is not consent.
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The one, and only reason there was any fraud was due to the "victim" agreeing to wear a blindfold each and every time she met, and had sex with the accused.
 
Dragonfly said:
The one, and only reason there was any fraud was due to the "victim" agreeing to wear a blindfold each and every time she met, and had sex with the accused.
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Yeah, it's weird and I do understand your point. As sexual assault cases go, it's far from the worst case out there.
 
Dragonfly said:
Other than stupidity....

Woman who wore fake penis, tricked blindfolded friend into having sex with her sentenced | Fox News

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So a woman is stupid enough to agree to wear a blindfold every single time she meets this girl, and even agrees to sex with a blindfold....

The level of oddness here is astounding.

I'm having trouble understanding a crime of sexual assault. It was consensual sex. Blindfolded, but consensual. Idiotic, but consensual.

Other than gross-stupidity, was a crime committed here? Deserving of 6+ years in prison?
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Seems to me that the 'victim' got all the benefit if she kept coming back for more. What jollies does somebody get who is wearing the strap on though. . . .? Bizarre? Yep. Definitely. Risky, even sick? Absolutely. But a criminal act? I don't see it.
 
Well, she will be doing hard time.
 
Kal'Stang said:
There has to be more to this story or its fake as hell. How the hell would anyone willingly meet someone new blindfolded AND have sex with them while never having seen them?
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It has to be true. It's from Fox. :roll:
 
VanceMack said:
Saying it was consensual and therefore not criminal....would it have been criminal if the woman had blindfolded her and then had a male friend come in and commit the sexual act? I mean...even though it was someone else committing the act it would still be consensual...right?

This is no different.
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:shock:Holy **** that claim is asinine. those situation are FACTUALLY not the same. Calling them no different is just pure intellectual dishonesty.
Does that mean im defending the person in this story, nope. But it does mean i see a factually inaccurate statement like the one you just made.
Good grief!

Just start with the number of people involved and go from there...
 
Kal'Stang said:
There has to be more to this story or its fake as hell. How the hell would anyone willingly meet someone new blindfolded AND have sex with them while never having seen them?
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I suspect the "victim" has a fetish for the thrill of the unknown, part of which is not knowing who or what you're going to get.

If that's the case, I see no crime here. She got what she wanted, basically.
 
Dragonfly said:
Other than stupidity....

Woman who wore fake penis, tricked blindfolded friend into having sex with her sentenced | Fox News

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So a woman is stupid enough to agree to wear a blindfold every single time she meets this girl, and even agrees to sex with a blindfold....

The level of oddness here is astounding.

I'm having trouble understanding a crime of sexual assault. It was consensual sex. Blindfolded, but consensual. Idiotic, but consensual.

Other than gross-stupidity, was a crime committed here? Deserving of 6+ years in prison?
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I find this thread VERY interesting, when i get home and have time im going to dive into it.
right now with the little I know "Crime" is a hard pill to swallow . . . . 6 years seems like an IMPOSSIBLE pill to swallow but maybe theres info I dont know.
 
radcen said:
I suspect the "victim" has a fetish for the thrill of the unknown, part of which is not knowing who or what you're going to get.

If that's the case, I see no crime here. She got what she wanted, basically.
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If the news accounts are to be believed, the victim established a romantic online relationship with the person she beleieved to be a man and the man cast himself in a sympathetic light as being disfigured and that was the only way he could be intimate with another...if she couldnt see him.

When you realize the number of people that get scammed online, the story isnt that far fetched.
 
VanceMack said:
If the news accounts are to be believed, the victim established a romantic online relationship with the person she beleieved to be a man and the man cast himself in a sympathetic light as being disfigured and that was the only way he could be intimate with another...if she couldnt see him.

When you realize the number of people that get scammed online, the story isnt that far fetched.
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That's certainly plausible.
 
radcen said:
That's certainly plausible.
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Especially if her best friend is telling you what a great deal it is and how you should trust the guy and how lucky she is.
 
I think these young British girls in their 20s were heavily influenced by Fifty Shades of Grey by British author E. L. James. The victims were deceived by a woman who created a fake Facebook profile, pretending a half Filipino boy. Usually, male perpetrators get 6 years in prison for committing a sexual crime, which was why she received the same sentence.
 
So i have read like 6 articles on this now. Some interesting things are she was already tried for this, found guilty then got off on appeal.


The complainant agreed to demands for her to wear a blindfold at all times during up to 15 sexual encounters and while watching television, going on a car journey and even sunbathing.
Newland denied concealing her true identity and claimed both women were gay and struggling with their sexuality when they met and had sex, with her as Kye, during role-play.

The defendant spent 'hundreds' of hours talking on the telephone to her friend as Kye telling her 'emotionally vulnerable' victim 'he' was undergoing treatment for cancer and was paranoid about his physical appearance.
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Yes this gets more and more weird, I say this gets appealed yet again and she will get off again. Theres just no way IMO to ever call this a real crime with all that info. WAY TO MUCH reasonable doubt IMO.

Also I have talked about this with about 6 women now and none of them believe its possible to be fooled that much/many times.

If these two were TOTAL strangers and the set up was very large with no shady back ground stories I may be able to think its worthy of a "crime" not sure about 6 year crime but maybe a crime.
 
If this had been a guy tricking a guy, some of the people defending the assault would be throwing a fit and demanding the death penalty.
 
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