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Surviving Gay...Barely[W:76]****

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FastPace said:
What was his description of anal sex? Here is the video interview I saw him in with the former female porn stars. I looked at it again, or fast forwarded into until I found what I wanted. Yeah, I was right, he did say he had surgery due to his years of anal sex. He had sex with roughly 1,000 men over the years he said. The dude was in gay porn.
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Let’s do a couple general thoughts, rather than an exhaustive review of his article linked to in the first post: Anal sex is pleasurable and intimate - just like all sex is. There are nerve endings, and men have a prostate. This statement of his, "Practice didn’t make it perfect, and it in no way felt natural. It never got better" claim does not make sense. He's slept with 1,000s of men? But it wasn't pleasurable, but he did it obsessively? Huh?

He continues by making numerous references to using enemas or consuming laxatives. This is exceptionally bizarre and completely unneeded ... something that I think most people who haven't had anal sex would assume, but are wrong about. I literally cannot believe that anyone, in contrast to his statements, would put instant coffee, baking soda, soap or aloe in themselves as is claimed. Never have I heard any friends of mine say this, and I certainly have never experienced this. In a similar vein, this is just plain wrong, "smell was always a problem during anal sex." Smell is not a problem during anal sex.

Finally I googled this Sciambra individual. He’s 44 and converted to strict Catholicism when he was 31. Doing the math, he went to live in the Castro when he was 19, and therefore was at least sexually active for 12 years. Which is funny, because I have been sexual active just a few years short of that. Moreover I have friends who have been married for 3x longer than that. The writer list these as problems he had because of having sex: skin rashes, bleeding, scaring, spastic colon, constipation, diarrhea, gonorrhea, chlamydia, hemorrhoids, yeast infections, and finally amputation. I don't have to tell you that this is completely laughable.
 
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FastPace said:
I have lived an extremely rough, and tragic life. Lots of violence. And getting hooked on crack cocaine sent me into a spiral of nightmare no imagination could properly dream up. Particularly the spiritual night and slow, tortuous, terrifying death of one's soul and spirit. And there is no boot camp or anything to prepare you for it. I started with a close relative who was using and hooked years before me. And the night I told him I thought I may have become hooked, a slow, sinister smile of glee spread across his face. ...
And I'm saying, this is not entirely true. Just like not all heterosexuals are porn stars or prostitutes. Not every married woman is a victim of domestic violence. That does not negate that some are.
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Thank you for sharing some of your experiences. I think you are a source of a lot of wisdom - though not much in the sexuality realm of things. :lol:

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So, I'm saying, there are gay people with tragic stories. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that.
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What I'm pointing out is that being gay does not lead to tragic life stories. Bad decisions do.
 
Hi fastpace,

My post #322 addressed your post straight up as I referenced, “The God of The Bible”

Your replies # 324 & # 325 are completely insufficient & disingenuous



As I stated, my post is based on scripture, The God of The Bible is more responsible for humanity being exposed to sin than humans are.

If you desire I can site individual scripture ………… many of them ……….


as your post implies, the concept of a world full of sin & sinners does not rely on German Shepards, liberal Catholics, gay persons, ancient Christians, the fall of Rome, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, rappers, or whatever other type of bull**** is inserted into the debate by yourself.

All of us here can be confident that the author of SIN as far as The Bible is concerned is the God of The Bible.
If this God of The Bible created sin, and the world is replete with 100 % sinners being wards of Satan needing salvation from the God that created said sin & knew of said sin before man was ever on Earth, then certainly the author of that sin is God himself, according to The Bible.

If that God is a being of His word, then that being, God, has directed humanity toward a sinful place (earth) & a sinful existence via the words of The Bible: ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of The Lord.

This would seem to support that the author of sin is God Himself, according to The Bible, no?

If this is the case, THEN the being driving humanity toward sin would be the God of The Bible, no?

Yes, it is true; the God of The Bible has driven humanity to sin YET that same God ask humanity to seek forgiveness from said sin via His own Son.

The irony is beyond comprehension ..........


.............. and no; we don't need German Shepards, liberal Catholics, gay persons, ancient Christians, the fall of Rome, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, rappers, or whatever other type of bull**** is inserted into the debate by yourself to deny that ..............
 
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FastPace said:
I probably have many favorite movies. Angel Heart has to be one of them. But in terms of specifically teen movies (which Angel Heart wasn't) the '80s were I think the greatest era of teen movies ever.
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Porkys and Ridgemont High come to mind right away.
 
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Partsguy57 said:
So when one questions a lifestyle that makes one a hater??? So if I don't agree with let's say a man having 3 wives by arraigned marriage does that make me a hater???? Or how about a lifestyle of let's say drugs and I tell my kid he can't hang out with the druggies son because I dont want him exposed to that lifestyle. Does that make me a hater?? I could go on forever. You make yourself to be very foolish to say one is a hater because they don't agree with a lifestyle....

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Many quasi-liberals are anxious to defend various forms of conduct most people consider deviant, un-American, or otherwise undesirable. Because these cheerleaders usually lack the knowledge and reasoning skills needed to persuade their doubters to agree with their views, it should not be surprising that instead of debating people who dare question their gospel, they instead turn to the shortcut method of simply trying to shut them up.

One of the main tools these undemocratic types, who are anything but truly liberal, use to silence people whose views discomfit them is to call them names like "haters," "homophobes," "xenophobes," "misogynists," "Islamphobes," etc. ad nauseam. They hope by doing that to win debates--at least in the judgment of those who are no less dim than they are--by placing people whose views irk them beyond the pale of legitimate debate. Sometimes they are able to call on referees who are their allies, and who will end the debate by disqualifying the opinions of the side they personally dislike as "hate speech."

The problem with this tactic is that it is a telltale sign that the person who relies on it is a weak debater who knows he can't win straight up. These people are like cheap club fighters who know their boxing skills are not good enough to win, and so rely instead on the clinch, the rabbit punch, the low blow, and the thumb in the eye. Once you've figured out their game, it's funny to watch their amateurish antics.
 
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matchlight said:
Many quasi-liberals are anxious to defend various forms of conduct most people consider deviant, un-American, or otherwise undesirable. Because these cheerleaders usually lack the knowledge and reasoning skills needed to persuade their doubters to agree with their views, it should not be surprising that instead of debating people who dare question their gospel, they instead turn to the shortcut method of simply trying to shut them up.

One of the main tools these undemocratic types, who are anything but truly liberal, use to silence people whose views discomfit them is to call them names like "haters," "homophobes," "xenophobes," "misogynists," "Islamphobes," etc. ad nauseam. They hope by doing that to win debates--at least in the judgment of those who are no less dim than they are--by placing people whose views irk them beyond the pale of legitimate debate. Sometimes they are able to call on referees who are their allies, and who will end the debate by disqualifying the opinions of the side they personally dislike as "hate speech."

The problem with this tactic is that it is a telltale sign that the person who relies on it is a weak debater who knows he can't win straight up. These people are like cheap club fighters who know their boxing skills are not good enough to win, and so rely instead on the clinch, the rabbit punch, the low blow, and the thumb in the eye. Once you've figured out their game, it's funny to watch their amateurish antics.
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Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.
 
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Partsguy57 said:
So when one questions a lifestyle that makes one a hater??? So if I don't agree with let's say a man having 3 wives by arraigned marriage does that make me a hater???? Or how about a lifestyle of let's say drugs and I tell my kid he can't hang out with the druggies son because I dont want him exposed to that lifestyle. Does that make me a hater?? I could go on forever. You make yourself to be very foolish to say one is a hater because they don't agree with a lifestyle....

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You can't compare it to any of that, because it's not a "lifestyle". Being gay isn't a choice.
 
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calamity said:
Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.
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Sometimes people do throw those terms at people who don't deserve it, but in the case of most of the people in here making anti-LGBT arguments, those terms definitely fit.
 
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calamity said:
Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.
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Whatever motivates them to defend their position is immaterial. The fact that people consider something to be Un American or undesirable is merely any opinion and in the discussion of homosexuality the opinion isn't well founded.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Whatever motivates them to defend their position is immaterial. The fact that people consider something to be Un American or undesirable is merely any opinion and in the discussion of homosexuality the opinion isn't well founded.
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Like most things though, people believe their opinion should be law of the land. Be they pro or con, they want everyone to follow their moral compass. So, IMO, it can't just be dismissed as, "Oh, look. There goes another stupid opinion."
 
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calamity said:
Like most things though, people believe their opinion should be law of the land. Be they pro or con, they want everyone to follow their moral compass. So, IMO, it can't just be dismissed as, "Oh, look. There goes another stupid opinion."
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Well, if we're talking about someone that's in a position of power, then I agree. But if we're talking about some random nobody, then it really doesn't matter in the long run.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Well, if we're talking about someone that's in a position of power, then I agree. But if we're talking about some random nobody, then it really doesn't matter in the long run.
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lol...look who became president when all the morons aligned like lucky stars.
 
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calamity said:
Like most things though, people believe their opinion should be law of the land. Be they pro or con, they want everyone to follow their moral compass. So, IMO, it can't just be dismissed as, "Oh, look. There goes another stupid opinion."
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Well if they can't reason their opinion they aren't likely going to make it law. Simply wishing it to be so is pointless.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Well, if we're talking about someone that's in a position of power, then I agree. But if we're talking about some random nobody, then it really doesn't matter in the long run.
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even people in positions of power are subject to checks and balances
 
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calamity said:
Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.
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It was deviant behavior in every sense of the word for most of human history. :shrug:
 
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Henrin said:
It was deviant behavior in every sense of the word for most of human history. :shrug:
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Can you support that? Seems to me same sex sexual activity has been around longer than humans. And, Muslims are no more declviant than Christians.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Well if they can't reason their opinion they aren't likely going to make it law. Simply wishing it to be so is pointless.
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You have far more confidence in our Idiocracy than I do.
 
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calamity said:
Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.
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What is "latent fear," and how does anyone show evidence of it? After all, the people you describe as having it do not usually act fearful. Or, maybe the term is just more jargon which sounds intellectual but means nothing.
 
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matchlight said:
What is "latent fear," and how does anyone show evidence of it? After all, the people you describe as having it do not usually act fearful. Or, maybe the term is just more jargon which sounds intellectual but means nothing.
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Hidden, concealed fear...denial of fear works too.
 
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calamity said:
Hidden, concealed fear...denial of fear works too.
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So they're expressing fear that is concealed?

:lamo
 
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Henrin said:
So they're expressing fear that is concealed?

:lamo
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Homophobic people fear being gay themselves. So...if the shoe fits.
 
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calamity said:
Homophobic people fear being gay themselves. So...if the shoe fits.
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Tell me what is wrong with the following quote from you:

expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors.
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Could it be that the word latent in the quote makes no sense.
 
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