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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Many quasi-liberals are anxious to defend various forms of conduct most people consider deviant, un-American, or otherwise undesirable. Because these cheerleaders usually lack the knowledge and reasoning skills needed to persuade their doubters to agree with their views, it should not be surprising that instead of debating people who dare question their gospel, they instead turn to the shortcut method of simply trying to shut them up.

    One of the main tools these undemocratic types, who are anything but truly liberal, use to silence people whose views discomfit them is to call them names like "haters," "homophobes," "xenophobes," "misogynists," "Islamphobes," etc. ad nauseam. They hope by doing that to win debates--at least in the judgment of those who are no less dim than they are--by placing people whose views irk them beyond the pale of legitimate debate. Sometimes they are able to call on referees who are their allies, and who will end the debate by disqualifying the opinions of the side they personally dislike as "hate speech."

    The problem with this tactic is that it is a telltale sign that the person who relies on it is a weak debater who knows he can't win straight up. These people are like cheap club fighters who know their boxing skills are not good enough to win, and so rely instead on the clinch, the rabbit punch, the low blow, and the thumb in the eye. Once you've figured out their game, it's funny to watch their amateurish antics.
    Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.

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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by Partsguy57 View Post
    So when one questions a lifestyle that makes one a hater??? So if I don't agree with let's say a man having 3 wives by arraigned marriage does that make me a hater???? Or how about a lifestyle of let's say drugs and I tell my kid he can't hang out with the druggies son because I dont want him exposed to that lifestyle. Does that make me a hater?? I could go on forever. You make yourself to be very foolish to say one is a hater because they don't agree with a lifestyle....

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    You can't compare it to any of that, because it's not a "lifestyle". Being gay isn't a choice.
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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.
    Sometimes people do throw those terms at people who don't deserve it, but in the case of most of the people in here making anti-LGBT arguments, those terms definitely fit.
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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.
    Whatever motivates them to defend their position is immaterial. The fact that people consider something to be Un American or undesirable is merely any opinion and in the discussion of homosexuality the opinion isn't well founded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Whatever motivates them to defend their position is immaterial. The fact that people consider something to be Un American or undesirable is merely any opinion and in the discussion of homosexuality the opinion isn't well founded.
    Like most things though, people believe their opinion should be law of the land. Be they pro or con, they want everyone to follow their moral compass. So, IMO, it can't just be dismissed as, "Oh, look. There goes another stupid opinion."

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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Like most things though, people believe their opinion should be law of the land. Be they pro or con, they want everyone to follow their moral compass. So, IMO, it can't just be dismissed as, "Oh, look. There goes another stupid opinion."
    Well, if we're talking about someone that's in a position of power, then I agree. But if we're talking about some random nobody, then it really doesn't matter in the long run.
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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    Well, if we're talking about someone that's in a position of power, then I agree. But if we're talking about some random nobody, then it really doesn't matter in the long run.
    lol...look who became president when all the morons aligned like lucky stars.

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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Like most things though, people believe their opinion should be law of the land. Be they pro or con, they want everyone to follow their moral compass. So, IMO, it can't just be dismissed as, "Oh, look. There goes another stupid opinion."
    Well if they can't reason their opinion they aren't likely going to make it law. Simply wishing it to be so is pointless.
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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    Well, if we're talking about someone that's in a position of power, then I agree. But if we're talking about some random nobody, then it really doesn't matter in the long run.
    even people in positions of power are subject to checks and balances
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    Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Being discomforted by the sexual behavior or religious practices of those who are different, going so far as to call those practices deviant, is expressing a deep dislike and latent fear of those behaviors. Thus, the tags "haters" and "phobic" are accurate.
    It was deviant behavior in every sense of the word for most of human history.

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