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Misogynists

Bodi

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  1. He will zero in on a woman and choose her as his target. Her natural defenses may be down because he’s flirtatious, exciting, fun, and charismatic at first.
  2. As time goes on, he begins to reveal a Jekyll & Hyde personality. He may change quickly from irresistible to rude, and from rude back to irresistible.
  3. He will make promises to women and often fail to keep them. With men, on the other hand, he will almost always keep his word.
  4. He will be late for appointments and dates with women, but be quite punctual with men.
  5. His behavior toward women in general is grandiose, cocky, controlling, and self-centered.
  6. He is extremely competitive, especially with women. If a woman does better than him socially or professionally, he feels terrible. If a man does better, he may have mixed feelings about it but he is able to look at the situation objectively.
  7. He will unknowingly treat women differently from men in workplace and social settings, allowing men various liberties for which he will criticize female colleagues or friends.
  8. He will be prepared (unconsciously) to use anything within his power to make women feel miserable. He may demand sex or withhold sex in his relationships, make jokes about women or put them down in public, “borrow” their ideas in professional contexts without giving them credit, or borrow money from them without paying them back.
  9. On a date, he will treat a woman the opposite of how she prefers. If she is an old-style lady who prefers a "gentleman" who holds the door for her, orders for both and pays for the meal, he will treat her like one of his male buddies, order for himself, and let her pay for the whole meal if she offers (and sometimes even if she doesn’t). If she is a more independent type who prefers to order her own meal and pay for herself, he will rudely order for both and pay the check while she goes to the bathroom.
  10. Sexually, he likes to control women and gives little or no attention to their sexual pleasure. Foreplay, if it occurs at all, is only a necessary means to an end. He likes oral sex but only as a recipient. His favorite positions enable him to avoid looking the woman in her eyes.
  11. He will cheat on women he is dating or in a relationship with. Monogamy is the last thing he feels he owes a woman.
  12. He may suddenly disappear from a relationship without ending it, but may come back three months later with an explanation designed to lure the woman back in.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mysteries-love/201502/12-ways-spot-misogynist
 
Men marry women with the hope they will never change.
Women marry men with the hope they will change.
Invariably they are both disappointed.

― Albert Einstein
 
The oppression of women stems largely from men’s desire for power and control. The same need which, throughout history, has driven men to try to conquer and subjugate other groups or nations, and to oppress other classes or groups in their own society, drives them to dominate and oppress women. Since men feel the need to gain as much power and control as they can, they steal away power and control from women. They deny women the right to make decisions so that they can make them for them, leave women unable to direct their own lives so that they can direct their lives for them. Ultimately, they’re trying to increase their sense of significance and status, in an effort to offset the discontent and sense of lack created by humania.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/out-the-darkness/201208/why-men-oppress-women
 
What drive posters to post a 'wall of text?' My poor eyes glaze over after the first paragraph! I'm like our fuhrer in this regard, keep it simple/light with lots of pictures!
 
What drive posters to post a 'wall of text?' My poor eyes glaze over after the first paragraph! I'm like our fuhrer in this regard, keep it simple/light with lots of pictures!
I thought he raised some intresting points. Those who know me around here will tell you im pretty tough on women and misandry in general. Misogyny however is also a problem and should not be overlooked or excused. I think he outlined many of the ways it manifests itself succinctly.

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Men marry women with the hope they will never change.
Women marry men with the hope they will change.
Invariably they are both disappointed.

― Albert Einstein

Unfortunately that is frequently true, so my wife and I discussed it at length before marrying.
 
What drive posters to post a 'wall of text?' My poor eyes glaze over after the first paragraph! I'm like our fuhrer in this regard, keep it simple/light with lots of pictures!

I operate under the assumption that people can read for a minute and a half without tiring...
 

Yes, and so do men, but this is our 19th year, and I'd say I did a pretty good job of picking one that at least tries to accept that there are things about me that she would like to change, that aren't going to change. In turn, I have to accept that there are things that change on her part that I would prefer didn't change.

I went through multiple semi long relationships before getting married, and that helped with understanding and perspective.
 
Men marry women with the hope they will never change.
Women marry men with the hope they will change.
Invariably they are both disappointed.

― Albert Einstein

Incorrect attribution. It actually was from the play “Cynara” that was performed in London in 1930.
 
#7 is a standard strategy used by women and, so far as I've ever heard, hardly any men. I thought it was called bodily autonomy but it's misogynistic to withhold sex if you're a man?
 
Those are blatant misogynists being described. They are the extreme version of a much more like-warm, subtle form happening everywhere, often in those who are unaware.
 
If I'm not mistaken women don't simply hope that men change, they try and change them. Not saying it's bad, in fact for many men it's good.

Would I be wrong about that?

Most every half-way assertive woman tries to modify her man's behavior. Nature of the beast, so to speak. And, imo, yes. It is often for the better if both are team players. One plus one really does most times equal three. ;)
 
Most every half-way assertive woman tries to modify her man's behavior. Nature of the beast, so to speak. And, imo, yes. It is often for the better if both are team players. One plus one really does most times equal three. ;)

I just remember back when I was trying to date ladies all of my married male friends were telling me to alter my behavior to be more woman friendly. It seems they had forgotten all about the dating process. Women find men attractive for whatever reason. And if I pretended to be someone I wasn't to be more woman friendly I wouldn't be being in myself. I was only after I talk to their wives that they told me that they had worked on them to get them to where they are now.

The Sound Advice I got was compromising that's important no matter what relationship you're in. The other really sound advice was to never forget the other person's needs.

I'm willing to change others I'm not. If the things I'm not or deal-breaker then that's it the things I'm willing to compromise on or a deal-breaker then I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

One thing I've noticed and every one of my friends that's married to a woman they have a restraint they didn't have when they were younger. Perhaps this is just growing up but I like to think the the ladies they married had a lot to do with it.
 
Most every half-way assertive woman tries to modify her man's behavior. Nature of the beast, so to speak. And, imo, yes. It is often for the better if both are team players. One plus one really does most times equal three. ;)

Sorry for the wall of text I didn't mean to be that long-winded
 
Most every half-way assertive woman tries to modify her man's behavior. Nature of the beast, so to speak. And, imo, yes. It is often for the better if both are team players. One plus one really does most times equal three. ;)

It is a stereotypical comment that 'women try to change men, and men want women to stay the same'
 
It is a stereotypical comment that 'women try to change men, and men want women to stay the same'

I agree. But remember, stereotypes become stereotypes for a reason. ;)
 
I agree. But remember, stereotypes become stereotypes for a reason. ;)

Yes they are. However, they quite often are exaggerated. Sometimes, both men and women can actually grow up, and get beyond those expectations.
 
Yes they are. However, they quite often are exaggerated. Sometimes, both men and women can actually grow up, and get beyond those expectations.

I agree with this as well. These roles may be reversed or they may not exist at all. And I absolutely agree couples grow together.
 
That list is pretty stupid. The one on dating is perhaps the dumbest as it assumes that a misogynist will undermine his chances with women due to own distaste for the gender/sex. In case you missed it a lot of misogynists are married or in long term relationships. Do you think all these men just do the opposite of what their partner wants or treats them like trash? If that is indeed what you are saying then wouldn't that mean that these women have something wrong with them? Did you ever consider that perhaps a misogynist might not treat women poorly, but still not like them? Did you ever figure that a misogynist might not treat all women the same? Did you ever think that perhaps he will know his own interests and act accordingly to get what he wants? The old tired "all bigots are idiots" belief is not true, you know.
 
#7 is a standard strategy used by women and, so far as I've ever heard, hardly any men. I thought it was called bodily autonomy but it's misogynistic to withhold sex if you're a man?

Withholding sex if your man because you want something is sexist, but withholding sex because you want something is empowerment if you're a woman. Go figure.

It's one of those situations where the person using the label doesn't like their own medicine.
 
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