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Has anyone been to a screening of this documentary? I heard about it in the following video.


I'm no red pill, but after seeing this trailer, I have to say I sympathize with them politically. I would not be surprised if this was one of those documentaries which led the crew to reject their original hypothesis, and I find no satisfaction in the resulting revelation.

What the woman who made this documentary found is that a lot of society is either very negligent or very abusive of men in a culturally oppressive way, while women have strong extra legal support networks as well as legal protection.

This is like some kind of ironic joke, because we've been taught that women are really oppressed, but they are not. In some cases, both men and women may lack the opportunities they deserve, perhaps because of scarce resources. When resources are scarce, they appear to sometimes overwhelmingly benefit of women. If there is any difference or inequality, men are the ones for whom we ought to stand up. We ought to empower both men and women, but men appear to bear the brunt of the disenfranchisement and obscurity.
 
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Also the girl your video is boxxy who's pretty famous as an online troll:

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Nilly said:
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Ah...so you're saying that there is no oppression or inequality to men's disadvantage? Hmmm....why is the sentencing disparity between men and women 6x worse than between whites and blacks? Hmmmm....nope. Must be fake because your stupid video says if a woman gets one ice cream ball the other person irrationally processes that action and calls in misandry.
 
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Ah...so you're saying that there is no oppression or inequality to men's disadvantage? Hmmm....why is the sentencing disparity between men and women 6x worse than between whites and blacks? Hmmmm....nope. Must be fake because your stupid video says if a woman gets one ice cream ball the other person irrationally processes that action and calls in misandry.
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Not at all.

My video highlights that MRA's have this stupid obsession with taking male disadvantages (of which there are some - nobodies life is perfect) and blaming it on women/feminists, when women have historically held little political or social power.
 
MRA's, redpillers, etc. are some of the whiniest, most self-absorbed people I have ever come across in my life. It's as if they have no clue how to play with a mediocre hand, instead blaming the dealer, their opponents, etc. Anybody but themselves.
 
Thank you very much for raising awareness of the issues men face -- men get 63% longer sentences for the same crimes, male DV victims have almost no help, men are discriminated against in divorce, male bashing is common in MSM.

The Knights shall denounce the Heretics in order to earn Favors from Queens.
 
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Shoe is not Boxxy. DERP.
 
Phys251 said:
MRA's, redpillers, etc. are some of the whiniest, most self-absorbed people I have ever come across in my life. It's as if they have no clue how to play with a mediocre hand, instead blaming the dealer, their opponents, etc. Anybody but themselves.
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Have you ever met any tumblristas or SJWs? Somehow, I think you have.
 
Nilly said:
Not at all.

My video highlights that MRA's have this stupid obsession with taking male disadvantages (of which there are some - nobodies life is perfect) and blaming it on women/feminists, when women have historically held little political or social power.
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So what you're saying is that you don't believe your lying eyes when you are presented with examples of some MRA group being attacked by feminists. Gotcha.
 
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There's this curious thing in physics known as reflection.
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Huh? You alleged that I have met "tumblristas" or "SJWs." I'm genuinely interested who these people are that I've supposedly met.
 
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So what you're saying is that you don't believe your lying eyes when you are presented with examples of some MRA group being attacked by feminists. Gotcha.
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???

You're awfully good at putting words into people's mouths and making huge assumptions, aren't ya.

There are examples of every group attacking every group.

Today's power structures have in general been implemented and overseen by men. Which gender primarily implemented the prison system (that ****s over guys)? Which gender primarily implemented the court system (that ****s over guys)? Which gender primarily implemented the office/work structure (that ****s over women)?

That's exactly what the whole 'patriarchy' thing is all about. It disadvantages guys as well as it does women. Yes, sometimes there are ways that women can abuse the system to their personal advantage. Plenty of men do the same. But the whole 'blaming feminism' thing - which is what most MRA'ing comes down to - is so ****ing dumb.

You can acknowledge that there are issues on both sides (women's issues far outweigh men's, btw), that they are down to ultimately the same cause, and they are not opposite ends of a tug of war.
 
Phys251 said:
Huh? You alleged that I have met "tumblristas" or "SJWs." I'm genuinely interested who these people are that I've supposedly met.
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"You best start believing in ghost stories, Miss Turner..."

You ARE one.

And you learned to talk like that from someones somewhere. :shrug: Probably Tumblr, it's the most concentrated source of all this nonsense.
 
Nilly said:
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You're awfully good at putting words into people's mouths and making huge assumptions, aren't ya.

There are examples of every group attacking every group.
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And yet you down play the reality of it, even when it's right in front of your eyes. You act like MRAs don't have a justified feeling being attacked when they are being attacked. Yeah, that totally makes sense.

Today's power structures have in general been implemented and overseen by men. Which gender primarily implemented the prison system (that ****s over guys)? Which gender primarily implemented the court system (that ****s over guys)? Which gender primarily implemented the office/work structure (that ****s over women)?

That's exactly what the whole 'patriarchy' thing is all about. It disadvantages guys as well as it does women. Yes, sometimes there are ways that women can abuse the system to their personal advantage. Plenty of men do the same. But the whole 'blaming feminism' thing - which is what most MRA'ing comes down to - is so ****ing dumb.
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So now you're shifting the goal post. No one is talking about that nebulous evil thing called "the patriarchy". We're talking about rights. Pointing a finger at how we got to the various situations we have is a waste of effort and is living in the past, instead of figuring out how to move forward.

You can acknowledge that there are issues on both sides (women's issues far outweigh men's, btw), that they are down to ultimately the same cause, and they are not opposite ends of a tug of war.
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This is subjective and also is part of a them of down-playing men's issues, when added with your "nobodies life is perfect" comment. You think having a ridiculously higher sentencing disparity isn't a big deal? How about the fact that there is BLM for the blacks that are killed by police officers but there is no MLM despite the fact that, no matter what race, almost all the people kill by officers are men? Who dies in war? Who is assaulted the most? Who loses custody battles for child care? Who has higher suicide rates? Who make up most of the homeless population?

Sure, these things are no big deal. It's totes just small little inconveniences because "nobodies life is perfect".
 
Phys251 said:
MRA's, redpillers, etc. are some of the whiniest, most self-absorbed people I have ever come across in my life. It's as if they have no clue how to play with a mediocre hand, instead blaming the dealer, their opponents, etc. Anybody but themselves.
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Well you see that is exactly what feminists appear top be to MRAs so try not looking at things through the prism of your political philosophy. MRAs can be whiny but thru have some legitimate complaints. And to dismiss them all because a couple of them are whiny is like dismissing all feminists because a couple of them are many hating asshole.

If you can't hear people out, nobody should extend that curiosity to you.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Well you see that is exactly what feminists appear top be to MRAs so try not looking at things through the prism of your political philosophy. MRAs can be whiny but thru have some legitimate complaints. And to dismiss them all because a couple of them are whiny is like dismissing all feminists because a couple of them are many hating asshole.

If you can't hear people out, nobody should extend that curiosity to you.
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What you just said is an excellent example of the following phenomenon that I just described:

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It's as if they have no clue how to play with a mediocre hand, instead blaming the dealer, their opponents, etc. Anybody but themselves.
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Life sucks. Deals you a bad hand sometimes. Suck it up and move on.
 
I mean June does say deliberately inflammatory things for lulz (in her videos) sometimes.

But I mean... eh. To say they ARE a troll implies that everything she says in shoeonhead is not her opinions; which it overwhelmingly is, except for when she is being ridiculously over-the-top obvious sarcastic... and some people still take it seriously.


Also sure, she clearly shares Boxxy's love for eyeliner. And one time she did make a video where she impersonated Boxxy because people made the comparison.

Also is Boxxy really a troll? Just really a internet YouTube character / meme really. That's like saying Overly Attached Girlfriend is a troll... when it's just a gag.
 
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I could easily say that to feminists.
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But it is the MRA's that preach it. To everybody but themselves. To themselves they preach whine, whine, whine.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Exactly like feminists.
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Then you do not understand feminism. You also do not understand that feminism is actually an umbrella term that encompasses many, often competing, movements.
 
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