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The Red Pill

Fishking said:
And yet you down play the reality of it, even when it's right in front of your eyes. You act like MRAs don't have a justified feeling being attacked when they are being attacked. Yeah, that totally makes sense.

So now you're shifting the goal post. No one is talking about that nebulous evil thing called "the patriarchy". We're talking about rights. Pointing a finger at how we got to the various situations we have is a waste of effort and is living in the past, instead of figuring out how to move forward.
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Err yeah, feminists are talking about the patriarchy.

And whether or not fingers are pointed, the power to change the lies primarily at the hands of those who hold the

Fishking said:
This is subjective and also is part of a them of down-playing men's issues, when added with your "nobodies life is perfect" comment. You think having a ridiculously higher sentencing disparity isn't a big deal? How about the fact that there is BLM for the blacks that are killed by police officers but there is no MLM despite the fact that, no matter what race, almost all the people kill by officers are men? Who dies in war? Who is assaulted the most? Who loses custody battles for child care? Who has higher suicide rates? Who make up most of the homeless population?

Sure, these things are no big deal. It's totes just small little inconveniences because "nobodies life is perfect".
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Firstly, most of the issues you talk about are because of the patriarchy. MRA's will go off about how women are weak and shouldn't join the army, but then on the other hand complain that more men die in wars? What kind of double standard is that??? The exact same system that feminists fight against (patriarchy) is the one that causes half the issues on your lists. Namely, culturally enforced gender stereotypes.

Secondly, women's issues far outweight men's ones. It's a complete myth that false rape accusations are a problem approaching or even on par with actual rapes; and that the culture is rigged to support women unconditionally and vilify men, not the other way around. It's unsurprising that one of the MRM's tactics is to fabricate hundreds of false false reports themselves. Far far far far far more men get away with rape and sexual assault than women do of accusing someone of false sexual assault. To equate the two is completely disingenuous.

Do you know what the biggest threat to women is? It's men. 1 in 3 women will be raped or beaten in her lifetime. 1 in 5 women in America will be the victim of rape or attempted rape. Of all the women murdered in the US about 1/3 are killed by their domestic partner. Every minute, about 20 people are physically abused by their partner, the vast majority of them women.
Women are far more likely to be killed by their partner than by an immigrant or a terrorist, and we have no issues as a country from trying to keep immigrants and terrorists away.

Yes custody is an issue, yes incarceration rates are an issue (and in general it's liberals who are for less incarceration), yes circumcision is an issue. But these don't even approach the issues women face, and attempting to equate the two is ridiculous.

The vast vast majority of MRA's receive validation vindictively at the expense of women. If MRA's were so concerned about things like false rape accusations, then they could start by being proactive about discussion of things like consent, rather than blame women and victims.

JayDubya said:
Shoe is not Boxxy. DERP.
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CLAX1911 said:
That isn't boxxy. It's shoe on head. Different person.
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Oops. Someone else who happens to impersonate Boxxy. o well.
 
Nilly said:
Err yeah, feminists are talking about the patriarchy.

And whether or not fingers are pointed, the power to change the lies primarily at the hands of those who hold the



Firstly, most of the issues you talk about are because of the patriarchy. MRA's will go off about how women are weak and shouldn't join the army, but then on the other hand complain that more men die in wars? What kind of double standard is that??? The exact same system that feminists fight against (patriarchy) is the one that causes half the issues on your lists. Namely, culturally enforced gender stereotypes.

Secondly, women's issues far outweight men's ones. It's a complete myth that false rape accusations are a problem approaching or even on par with actual rapes; and that the culture is rigged to support women unconditionally and vilify men, not the other way around. It's unsurprising that one of the MRM's tactics is to fabricate hundreds of false false reports themselves. Far far far far far more men get away with rape and sexual assault than women do of accusing someone of false sexual assault. To equate the two is completely disingenuous.

Do you know what the biggest threat to women is? It's men. 1 in 3 women will be raped or beaten in her lifetime. 1 in 5 women in America will be the victim of rape or attempted rape. Of all the women murdered in the US about 1/3 are killed by their domestic partner. Every minute, about 20 people are physically abused by their partner, the vast majority of them women.
Women are far more likely to be killed by their partner than by an immigrant or a terrorist, and we have no issues as a country from trying to keep immigrants and terrorists away.

Yes custody is an issue, yes incarceration rates are an issue (and in general it's liberals who are for less incarceration), yes circumcision is an issue. But these don't even approach the issues women face, and attempting to equate the two is ridiculous.

The vast vast majority of MRA's receive validation vindictively at the expense of women. If MRA's were so concerned about things like false rape accusations, then they could start by being proactive about discussion of things like consent, rather than blame women and victims.





Oops. Someone else who happens to impersonate Boxxy. o well.
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Except she doesn't.
 
Nilly said:
Err yeah, feminists are talking about the patriarchy.
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Feminism loves patriarchy. They made an alliance with Islam during the nothing march.

Firstly, most of the issues you talk about are because of the patriarchy.
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The patriarchy is like the bogeyman or the sith. It doesn't really exist in our culture. It does however exist in Islamic culture. Feminism made an ally out of Islam. So any time I hear feminists bitch about the patriarchy I laugh out loud. Feminists love patriarchy. The symbol of their biggest protest was a symbol of female oppression. So if you support this alliance and you're a feminist you have just become a punchline.
 
Nilly said:
Err yeah, feminists are talking about the patriarchy.

And whether or not fingers are pointed, the power to change the lies primarily at the hands of those who hold the
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There are more women than men and everyone has just one vote, which is where the power lies. They obviously are voting for current policies. Again, we're talking about men's rights, which is it's own thing in itself. How we got to the point where there are disparities is another thing.

Firstly, most of the issues you talk about are because of the patriarchy. MRA's will go off about how women are weak and shouldn't join the army, but then on the other hand complain that more men die in wars? What kind of double standard is that??? The exact same system that feminists fight against (patriarchy) is the one that causes half the issues on your lists. Namely, culturally enforced gender stereotypes.
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If it wasn't for strawman arguments it's like you wouldn't have any argument at all. The issue is how there are disparities in men's rights, focus.

Secondly, women's issues far outweight men's ones. It's a complete myth that false rape accusations are a problem approaching or even on par with actual rapes; and that the culture is rigged to support women unconditionally and vilify men, not the other way around. It's unsurprising that one of the MRM's tactics is to fabricate hundreds of false false reports themselves. Far far far far far more men get away with rape and sexual assault than women do of accusing someone of false sexual assault. To equate the two is completely disingenuous.
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Women's issues far outweight men's one? Because you say so, right? No one has said that false rape accusations are on par with actual rapes. Another strawman. As far as vilifying men...yeah, that's a reality, not a myth.

Do you know what the biggest threat to women is? It's men. 1 in 3 women will be raped or beaten in her lifetime. 1 in 5 women in America will be the victim of rape or attempted rape. Of all the women murdered in the US about 1/3 are killed by their domestic partner. Every minute, about 20 people are physically abused by their partner, the vast majority of them women.
Women are far more likely to be killed by their partner than by an immigrant or a terrorist, and we have no issues as a country from trying to keep immigrants and terrorists away.
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You're not only torturing fallacious statistics you're also actually demonizing men, good job being sexist!

https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/are-1-5-women-raped-college

The reality is that men are victims of violent crime more than women, despite your false narrative.

https://www.nij.gov/topics/victims-victimization/Pages/welcome.aspx

Yes custody is an issue, yes incarceration rates are an issue (and in general it's liberals who are for less incarceration), yes circumcision is an issue. But these don't even approach the issues women face, and attempting to equate the two is ridiculous.
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Oh, OK...because you say so. That's swell.

The vast vast majority of MRA's receive validation vindictively at the expense of women. If MRA's were so concerned about things like false rape accusations, then they could start by being proactive about discussion of things like consent, rather than blame women and victims.
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Really? So they don't talk about the issues men face today? Looks like you have a pretty weak and women-centric view of everything mostly likely due to the fact that you're wholly ignorant of the issues facing men. This is not your fault. No one does studies on this stuff and no one cares, because...you know...it's just men, the throw-away sex.
 
I watched the video, and that's 6:30 minutes of my life wasted on young girl with artful wings talking from her bedroom. Please.
 
nota bene said:
I watched the video, and that's 6:30 minutes of my life wasted on young girl with artful wings talking from her bedroom. Please.
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I am sorry I must disagree.

Someone who defends male victims to an audience of 709,963 subscribers and 34,657,637 views is a true hero.

Many SJWs will abuse anyone who speaks about discrimination against men and abuse of men. Those who have a small audience like I do will get little abuse, but those who have megaaudience receive a lot of abuse.
 
Sadly very few women understand how much hate men face everyday for just being men. Most men want to pretend that they are "strong" and not affected by all the male bashing and generalizations. Some things approved by Mainstream Media are below:

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Thus women who defend men are the true heroes.
 
Phys251 said:
Then you do not understand feminism. You also do not understand that feminism is actually an umbrella term that encompasses many, often competing, movements.
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I was thinking about this today. The feminist that believes equality of the sexes is only possible via socialist revolution is the feminist whom I find most compelling. Nazi feminism and female chauvinism are real turn offs. I think these two examples alone show the diversity feminist nomenclature.

I was raised by a feminist, and it led me to distrust feminist women for a long time until I realized how diverse feminism is. Egalitarian politics have branched out because the origins of feminism are complex. Things are not as simple for women as they were in the 20's and 30's, from what I understand about that period. However, women have made enough progress that they have outpaced the progress of men. Women now have more rights than men, and in that sense women are privileged.

CLAX wrote in post #29 that feminism loves the patriarchy. I think feminism does love the patriarchy, and not just because they would like nothing more than to point fingers at it than to babble incoherently about it, which is a lot easier than pointing in the direction of something which arguably isn't real. Women also look to men as role models (the number of female Stakhanovites is the lesser of two genders afforded equal opportunity in the CCCP). This is an important part of feminist philosophy for two reasons 1) If the patriarchy is real, then women can attain power equal to men only by interaction with powerful males, sometimes within patriarchal structures, and 2) If women no less powerful than men and women are equal to men, then women must either exist within some gender specific hierarchy, or else influence shall disperse by women and men for women and men.

Finally, sub-Reddit founder of the Red Pill chapter of manspreading, mansplaining, wheelin' and dealin', red pill poppin' men and women, Bobby Fisher has been outed. Enjoy reading about the scandal, ladies.
 
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