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Men are sexist if they enjoy their woman having an orgasm.

I read the article.

It makes no sense to me.
 
MGTOW doesn't have any demands, so comparing them to feminism isn't a great comparison. They're more like those old sex strikes by feminists back in 19th century, but with the strike being on relationships, not sex.

I wasn't speaking to demands, but how each of the extremist groups view the opposite gender.


MGTOW use the word "gynocentric" to describe conditions that favor women to the detriment of men, and are opposed to such circumstances.[8][6] MGTOW believe there is a systemic gynocentric bias against men with some examples being double standards in gender roles, bias against men in family courts, the lack of concern for men falsely accused of rape and lack of consequences for their accusers.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way

Radical feminists seek to abolish patriarchy by challenging existing social norms and institutions, rather than through a purely political process. This includes challenging the notion of traditional gender roles, opposing the sexual objectification of women, and raising public awareness about such issues as rape and violence against women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism

"Gynocentric" and "patriarchy" seem to be used in a similar manner in each of those statement. In fact those statements are nearly interchangeable.

And I have to laugh. I can't even look into the MGTOW site. It's for men only. I have to speak to enter.

https://www.mgtow.com/

Speaking to the OP, though the study comes from The Journal Of Sex Research, which looks highly credentialed, the way it's presented, seems like pop science. Isn't it rather selfish to not be concerned about satisfying one's partner? The science seems to be there in the study, but...
 
No, no, no, Kurmugeon has it all wrong. He needs to find himself a nice wholesome Mormon girl. Mormons teach their girls from a young age gender roles and how to please men. It's not me being sexist, it's just how Mormons live their lives. The 1950s are alive and well in Utah.

Typical Progressive Ad-Hominem Sneering.

I'm enjoying my five grandkids. I've already played and won this game. But, I found a reasonable woman before radical progressives on campus ruined her.

As to Mormon... I wouldn't know, but I suspect they're almost as messed up as the rest of American women today.

You seems to have a problem with both Mormons and people who choose to live by traditional gender roles... Not very "Tolerant" of you.

People in eastern Europe laugh at Americans and their attempts to force change everyone's gender roles, whether they want it or not.

Women their have their indepence, and education, and careers, but they don't mind being women, and letting men be men, either.

They find most Progressive American Men effeminate and disgusting.
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No, no, no, Kurmugeon has it all wrong. He needs to find himself a nice wholesome Mormon girl. Mormons teach their girls from a young age gender roles and how to please men. It's not me being sexist, it's just how Mormons live their lives. The 1950s are alive and well in Utah.

Or how about the Duggar types of people? You know, the ones that have like 19 kids?
 
See, I wonder what experiences bring people to think that? Don't believe what you see in the media, or Hollywood, as being representative. I mean, 53% of women voted for Trump, which definitely rules them out of the extremist feminist category.

You're talking about white women without a college degree. If you look at the entire women voting block Trump only got 42% of the vote.
 
Yes. How can you call yourself aware of American Politics and not know about the MIGTOW? It is having a far greater impact of 2017-> society than Progressive-Feminism.

Google it.

Looks too metro-sexual for the likes of me. Herbivore men? Is a man-bun de rigueur?
I'm more of a retro type, sorry.
 
Typical Progressive Ad-Hominem Sneering.

I'm enjoying my five grandkids. I've already played and won this game. But, I found a reasonable woman before radical progressives on campus ruined her.

As to Mormon... I wouldn't know, but I suspect they're almost as messed up as the rest of American women today.

You seems to have a problem with both Mormons and people who choose to live by traditional gender roles... Not very "Tolerant" of you.

People in eastern Europe laugh at Americans and their attempts to force change everyone's gender roles, whether they want it or not.

Women their have their indepence, and education, and careers, but they don't mind being women, and letting men be men, either.

They find most Progressive American Men effeminate and disgusting.
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Jesus Christ, Mormons getting fake racks, cooking, cleaning, and staying at home to raise kids, is not a progressive smear tactic. Who are progressives smearing? Mormons? To what end? You're waaaaay off base with that accusation. 90% of the time, you can call me a miserable liberal, but, what I've just told you has nothing to do with Progressives or what they want to accomplish politically.
 
Or how about the Duggar types of people? You know, the ones that have like 19 kids?

ugh, those people are so ****ing creepy.
 
I wasn't speaking to demands, but how each of the extremist groups view the opposite gender.






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism

"Gynocentric" and "patriarchy" seem to be used in a similar manner in each of those statement. In fact those statements are nearly interchangeable.

Not really. The one has to do with a society centered around men where men have all the power, while the other deals with old traditions like chivalry that placed women above men.

And I have to laugh. I can't even look into the MGTOW site. It's for men only. I have to speak to enter.

https://www.mgtow.com/

What do you mean? I didn't have to do anything special to look at the site.
 
Those women don't understand. It's not a matter of 'achievement', some of us just really like the sounds a woman makes when, well, ...

Have you forgotten what it is really all about? Making a family!

When a woman orgasms, her cervix pulses open and drips forword to grasp sperm. If a woman is feeling violated during sex, her body secretes a muscus block in the cervix which blocks almost all sperm.

If you want to have children, BOTH partners need to orgasm to make the chances of pregnancy optimum.

Life isn't about have a maximum number of intensive orgasms. It is about have the 1-4 that start your children, and then the hugs and smiles that come from the raising of the family.

European women still understand that! American women, as shown by the OP Article, are attempting to turn orgasms into another "Feminist Rights Battleground" Pahhh, foolishness.

A happy marriage isn't based on sex, it is about conversation, hugs, and gentle good nights.

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What's wrong with a "masculinity achievement"? Why wouldn't everybody take pleasure from satisfying his or her partner?
 
Not really. The one has to do with a society centered around men where men have all the power, while the other deals with old traditions like chivalry that placed women above men.



What do you mean? I didn't have to do anything special to look at the site.

I'm not up to fighting with you about it tonight. I'll probably come back to it tomorrow.



FORUMS
For Men Only
SPEAK

:lamo @ me.

I took them at their word. I guess I can get in. I didn't want to hit that SPEAK button. Live and learn. :mrgreen:
 
What's wrong with a "masculinity achievement"? Why wouldn't everybody take pleasure from satisfying his or her partner?

Ding! Ding! Ding!

My thoughts, exactly.
 
I'm not up to fighting with you about it tonight. I'll probably come back to it tomorrow.



FORUMS
For Men Only
SPEAK

:lamo @ me.

I took them at their word. I guess I can get in. I didn't want to hit that SPEAK button. Live and learn. :mrgreen:

Well, that's understandable since it's a male group.
 
A wee bit at odds with the demand that men wait for an enthusiastic yes to sex up a girl, and get continual reaffirmations of YES! along the way.

But what the hell, the point is that men are always wrong.

No Matter what we do, no matter how well we do it. .

Because MEN SUCK!
 
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I refuse to become irritated by a magazine isolated to grocery store check out aisles next to Kim Kardashian and Boy Born As Shark stories.
 
I refuse to become irritated by a magazine isolated to grocery store check out aisles next to Kim Kardashian and Boy Born As Shark stories.

But boy shark was THE BEST!
 
What sane and self-respecting male subjects themselves to 2008->, Toxic, Progressive Feminist, Misandry?

What part of "They HATE you!" don't you get?

The good news is, that segment of the American Female population are not having many babies. In forty years, they'll be gone.

The Gods pity any son born to one of them.

The average college woman's studies depart looks allot like Mos Eisley, "You will never find a more retched hive of scum and villany!"

Well.... Black Lefties Murder is worse... but still...

Like most things Progressive, they are incapibile of sourcing wealth, civility, or happiness, they simply destroy everything they touch!

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When a woman orgasms, her cervix pulses open and drips forword to grasp sperm. If a woman is feeling violated during sex, her body secretes a muscus block in the cervix which blocks almost all sperm.

If you want to have children, BOTH partners need to orgasm to make the chances of pregnancy optimum.


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No, just no.
 
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