Defiant Girl

Somerville said:

No, you are "invested" in an attempt to denigrate honest Americans who are upset with the Orange Cheeto and his minions acting as if they are the all-knowing who shall not be questioned.

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I wouldnt mind if the people protesting were actual constituents protesting their congresspeople. They arent...and you know it. Whether or not you have the integrity to admit it is entirely in question.

VanceMack said:

I wouldnt mind if the people protesting were actual constituents protesting their congresspeople. They arent...and you know it. Whether or not you have the integrity to admit it is entirely in question.

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Where do you get this information? Every single person protesting at a town hall meeting is a paid professional protestor who lives outside of the congress critter's district. Prove it or admit that it is little more than what you believe and is unsupported by any source outside of the rightwing blogosphere.

I guess I just fail to see the need for the continued hyperbolic symbolism touting every single non-male, non-white individual in the country.

Ok, the statue of the little girl is marginally clever (even as others have posted symbolically confusing), but what's the message that really needed to be told? Honest question. Are there little girls still unsure whether they can grow up to work on wall street? Are we still at the point where we feel the need to overcompensate our encouragement for girls to believe they are individuals with their own self-worth? I could understand in the 1950's or the 1800's if something like this were erected, but in 2017? I just don't think the rah-rah stuff is applicable anymore. If you want your daughters to achieve, then push them towards achievement. If you have a daughter and feel she isn't reaching her potential, then as a parent, it is on you. Not some nameless, faceless corporate board. If you, as a parent, or even a young woman, are blaming an entire industry for your lack of success, shame on you. I am pretty confident that is where we are in 2017 and I cannot help but wonder whether this statue is sort of an anachronism from a time which no longer exists. And if we keep pulling ourselves back into this pit of inequity, then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Somerville said:

Where do you get this information? Every single person protesting at a town hall meeting is a paid professional protestor who lives outside of the congress critter's district. Prove it or admit that it is little more than what you believe and is unsupported by any source outside of the rightwing blogosphere.

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:lamo

yer so cute...




https://www.indivisibleguide.com/
Town Hall Project Founded By Former Clinton Staffer

There were people from Arizona, Washington, Oregon and Wyoming at Jason Chafetz's 'townhall'. These are organized protest marches...not town hall meetings. And you know that. Hell I believe you would even admit they are organized...even if its just by cramming a few hundred yappy screaming loser HRC voters in a room. And you can find THOSE people lying around anywhere. Print up a bunch of flyers, organize some chants...and voila! So dont pretend this isnt some top down organized effort. Or do...your pretense of foolishness is kind of endearing.

And I highly doubt you will ever find an instance of me using the words 'congresscritter'. So you are either blatantly lying or mistaking me for someone else. Why do you feel compelled to lie?

VanceMack said:

:lamo

yer so cute...




https://www.indivisibleguide.com/
Town Hall Project Founded By Former Clinton Staffer

There were people from Arizona, Washington, Oregon and Wyoming at Jason Chafetz's 'townhall'. These are organized protest marches...not town hall meetings. And you know that. Hell I believe you would even admit they are organized...even if its just by cramming a few hundred yappy screaming loser HRC voters in a room. And you can find THOSE people lying around anywhere. Print up a bunch of flyers, organize some chants...and voila! So dont pretend this isnt some top down organized effort. Or do...your pretense of foolishness is kind of endearing.

And I highly doubt you will ever find an instance of me using the words 'congresscritter'. So you are either blatantly lying or mistaking me for someone else. Why do you feel compelled to lie?

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Like I said "any source outside the rightwing blogosphere". The Scott Foval video is just another James O'Keefe highly-edited video with stitched-together, out-of-context remarks with no indication of what was being talked before or after the included portions. Scott Foval was fired the day the video was released.

Columbia Journalism Review

O’Keefe Teaches Media A Lesson (Again)

How quickly things seem to fall apart when James O’Keefe is the person who put them together.

O’Keefe’s incriminating ACORN video was shown to have been heavily edited—neither he nor Hannah Giles were actually in pimp and prostitute get-up when they spoke to ACORN employees, for example—and no criminal prosecutions of ACORN followed. While not letting ACORN off the hook for showing “terrible judgment” in the video, California’s then-attorney general Jerry Brown noted after an investigation into the tapes and the organization that “sometimes a fuller truth is found on the cutting room floor.”

Those same words now seem applicable to the latest O’Keefe sting, which further tarnished NPR’s reputation and took down its CEO. As we noted last week, Glenn Beck’s conservative website, The Blaze, was first to report on discrepancies between the first edited eleven-and-a-half minute video released on the Project Veritas website and a later, unedited two-hour version.

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Just because Jason Chaffetz makes a claim, don't mean it's true. Salt Lake City Tribune contradicted Chaffetz following his statement that the first people in line for the townhall were from out of state.

Chaffetz said he was told by police that the first people in line for his town hall were from Wyoming. The first three people at the front of the line — interviewed by a Tribune reporter — were Bill Willett, of South Salt Lake; Brendan O'Leary, of Sandy; and Erin Lipovich, of Holladay.

Cottonwood Heights Police Chief Robby Russo said the number of any out-of-state attendees was "not a considerable amount."

"There were several who said they were from Oregon, Nevada, Wyoming," he said. "Certainly, they had every right to be there and none of them were causing trouble."

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I like the protest movement following Chaffetz's claims about "paid protestors"

Some Utahns, outraged at Rep. Jason Chaffetz's unsubstantiated claim that paid protesters infiltrated his raucous town-hall meeting last week, have begun to send invoices to the congressman. If he says they got money for showing up, he should foot the bill, they argue.

Shauna Ehninger's invoice sent to Chaffetz's office totaled $1,070, including $200 for two hours each of waiting in line and attending the town hall — including time for hearing "condescending responses" — $100 for distributing "fake news" and $100 for being an "out-of-state radical." Oh, and $70 for taxes.

"I am getting really sick of being referred to as a paid protester for simply standing up to this administration," Ehninger, who lives in Sandy, said Monday. "As a constituent of Chaffetz's district, I am offended that he would dismiss our opposing opinions with such a ridiculous claim and wanted to call this out."

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I use the term "congress critters". I never accused you of using the term. You call me a liar while I believe you need to have your vision checked.

Somerville said:

Like I said "any source outside the rightwing blogosphere". The Scott Foval video is just another James O'Keefe highly-edited video with stitched-together, out-of-context remarks with no indication of what was being talked before or after the included portions. Scott Foval was fired the day the video was released.


Just because Jason Chaffetz makes a claim, don't mean it's true. Salt Lake City Tribune contradicted Chaffetz following his statement that the first people in line for the townhall were from out of state.


I like the protest movement following Chaffetz's claims about "paid protestors"

I use the term "congress critters". I never accused you of using the term. You call me a liar while I believe you need to have your vision checked.

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No...what you tried to do (and failed miserably) was to establish a false argument in the hopes that I would argue it. I didnt. Wont. Stop using dishonest debate tactics and you wont look like such a liar.

ibelsd said:

I cannot help but wonder whether this statue is sort of an anachronism

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especially since it is sexist which is not cool considering that girls are well ahead of boys by most social and academic standards these days. Women have become like blacks, i.e., still protesting just because the battle, already won without opposition, was so much fun and appeared to be so meaningful..