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Signs men are emasculated Part 1: Men shaving or trimming their body hair

Henrin

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Ever since about 1990's this has been a growing trend among men starting with gay men and moving towards straight men in growing numbers in the last few years. If you ask me this behavior is extremely girly and is the man emulating himself by removing certain signs of coming to age. Real men in my opinion simply don't shave their body hair and they don't make up terms like "manscaping" when caught doing it like somehow that makes the girly activity manly again.

First there was the whole chest hair nonsense from the 1990's which was promoted by male models and picked up first by gay men and then later by straight men. You got these lame as muscle building dudes that think building all that muscle is somehow made even more manly by shaving their chest. So first you do something actually manly, which is build muscle, and then you basically do the most feminine thing possible and remove all signs that you ever grew chest hair? You know, body hair is caused by a certain hormone that increases during puberty, so shaving it off makes you look like one of those dudes that never got enough hormones to grow chest hair. Guess what that means? It means you're making yourself look an inferior man. You're basically going forward with the muscle building and then going back again with shaving off your chest hair. Learning some basic biology might help you realize how you're emasculating yourself, not making yourself somehow more masculine.

Then there is the ball shaving/ball trimming nonsense that men are doing in greater numbers because of porn and women demands. Of course, men rationalize it with all sorts of nonsense excuse like it makes it look bigger like somehow being insecure of your penis size is a good thing and something to declare to the whole world. The worst however is the men that just do it because they want sex or because women want it. Look, a man that changes his body because a woman demands it is no sort of man, but a slave of a woman's demands. Men are frankly giving in to woman's demands too much and need to learn again to stand up for themselves in the house, in politics, in culture, and apparently in the bed. Since when was it seen as ok for men to just be the slave of their wife/girlfriend and change their body for them? You know, feminists were opposed to men telling women what do with their bodies and told women to stand up for themselves and I see no reason such reasoning shouldn't be expanded to men here. Oh and guys, stop doing what men in porn are doing. It's really really lame and disturbing.

Lastly, there is the men that shave their arms and legs. Like really, is there anything more girly then that? The men are shaving their legs all smooth and they call themselves men. Amazing. I really have no words to describe what I think of that, but needless to say it's not good.

So what do you think about it? Oh and guys, I don't want to know if you do it. TMI exists for a reason and this is one of those times.
 
Does this deserve a thread? Idk. I don't pay attention to dudes body hair.
 
Does this deserve a thread? Idk. I don't pay attention to dudes body hair.

It's series that I plan to include all sorts of things in. Since this is a major sign of emasculation in men I decided to make it a part.

Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable or something.
 
It's series that I plan to include all sorts of things in. Since this is a major sign of emasculation in men I decided to make it a part.

Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable or something.

What other topics will be discussed in your series?
 
Ever since about 1990's this has been a growing trend among men starting with gay men and moving towards straight men in growing numbers in the last few years. If you ask me this behavior is extremely girly and is the man emulating himself by removing certain signs of coming to age. Real men in my opinion simply don't shave their body hair and they don't make up terms like "manscaping" when caught doing it like somehow that makes the girly activity manly again.

First there was the whole chest hair nonsense from the 1990's which was promoted by male models and picked up first by gay men and then later by straight men. You got these lame as muscle building dudes that think building all that muscle is somehow made even more manly by shaving their chest. So first you do something actually manly, which is build muscle, and then you basically do the most feminine thing possible and remove all signs that you ever grew chest hair? You know, body hair is caused by a certain hormone that increases during puberty, so shaving it off makes you look like one of those dudes that never got enough hormones to grow chest hair. Guess what that means? It means you're making yourself look an inferior man. You're basically going forward with the muscle building and then going back again with shaving off your chest hair. Learning some basic biology might help you realize how you're emasculating yourself, not making yourself somehow more masculine.

Then there is the ball shaving/ball trimming nonsense that men are doing in greater numbers because of porn and women demands. Of course, men rationalize it with all sorts of nonsense excuse like it makes it look bigger like somehow being insecure of your penis size is a good thing and something to declare to the whole world. The worst however is the men that just do it because they want sex or because women want it. Look, a man that changes his body because a woman demands it is no sort of man, but a slave of a woman's demands. Men are frankly giving in to woman's demands too much and need to learn again to stand up for themselves in the house, in politics, in culture, and apparently in the bed. Since when was it seen as ok for men to just be the slave of their wife/girlfriend and change their body for them? You know, feminists were opposed to men telling women what do with their bodies and told women to stand up for themselves and I see no reason such reasoning shouldn't be expanded to men here. Oh and guys, stop doing what men in porn are doing. It's really really lame and disturbing.

Lastly, there is the men that shave their arms and legs. Like really, is there anything more girly then that? The men are shaving their legs all smooth and they call themselves men. Amazing. I really have no words to describe what I think of that, but needless to say it's not good.

So what do you think about it? Oh and guys, I don't want to know if you do it. TMI exists for a reason and this is one of those times.

This is very black and white thinking. For example, men who are body builders often shave their chest hair because, if they are competing, the lack of hair helps to show off the definition more significantly so they can, perhaps, get better scores. Beyond that, you do realize that your assessment is nothing but your opinion and is based on YOUR perception of masculinity and what defines it.
 
Yeah western men are being emasculated hardcore and being transformed into beta cucks but I don't think body hair would be my number one as far as the consequences of emasculating men is concerned.
 
What other topics will be discussed in your series?

Honestly, I only have two other parts planned at the moment. I know one part will be about those dudes that use male beauty products that are labeled all manly like, which is funny to me, and another part will be about those dudes carrying purses. lol. Which reminds me that I have to look up their made up "manly" term for their purses as it has slipped my mind.
 
This is very black and white thinking. For example, men who are body builders often shave their chest hair because, if they are competing, the lack of hair helps to show off the definition more significantly so they can, perhaps, get better scores. Beyond that, you do realize that your assessment is nothing but your opinion and is based on YOUR perception of masculinity and what defines it.

Most men that build muscle and shave their chest are not in fact competing for anything. Sure, your argument works to expose a tiny a flaw in my reasoning, but only a tiny one.

Also, my definition of masculinity is generally historically accurate and further enforced by biological reality and puberty. :shrug: Besides, there might be a society in the past that considered looking like a twelve year old boy as masculine, but I can't find it.
 
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Yeah western men are being emasculated hardcore and being transformed into beta cucks but I don't think body hair would be my number one as far as the consequences of emasculating men is concerned.

My series are never organized in terms of importance.
 
Henrin's epitome of masculinity:
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Also, writing a tirade on the internet about men's bodies is definitely not masculine.
 
Henrin's epitome of masculinity:
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Also, writing a tirade on the internet about men's bodies is definitely not masculine.

So being scared to talk about certain things is your idea of masculine? Ummm...ok.
 
Most men that build muscle and shave their chest are not in fact competing for anything. Sure, your argument works to expose a tiny a flaw in my reasoning, but only a tiny one.

No, beyond the body building competition aspect, there are also other times when it is beneficial. Other sports such as wrestling or swimming, for example. Beyond that, some men do it because it is attractive to some women. Many people do things in order to attract certain members of the opposite sex. This is often one.

Also, my definition of masculinity is generally historically accurate and further enforced by biological reality and puberty. :shrug: Besides, there might be a society in the past that considered looking like a twelve year old boy as masculine, but I can't find it.

Your definition of masculinity offers ONE aspect of ONE issue. Masculinity is not defined by this one issue and the issue itself is more complicated then the aesthetics that you present. That's the biggest problem with your entire premise.
 
Honestly, I only have two other parts planned at the moment. I know one part will be about those dudes that use male beauty products that are labeled all manly like, which is funny to me, and another part will be about those dudes carrying purses. lol. Which reminds me that I have to look up their made up "manly" term for their purses as it has slipped my mind.

Anyway, most women I've known prefer masculine men. If a bunch of guys want to wear man-buns and pluck their eye brows, good for them. It means more available women for those of us who don't do those things.
 
Anyway, most women I've known prefer masculine men. If a bunch of guys want to wear man-buns and pluck their eye brows, good for them. It means more available women for those of us who don't do those things.

I totally forgot about the eye brow thing. That's like the funniest part too. :lol:

Also, it's something like 95% of younger men that shave or trim their body hair in one way or another, so it's a pretty common thing. Also, women are increasingly demanding men be at least trimmed somewhere on his body.
 
Does this deserve a thread? Idk. I don't pay attention to dudes body hair.

Henrin spends a LOT of time thinking about other dudes' bodies and how they should live and act in order to be "manly enough" by his standards.

Ever since about 1990's this has been a growing trend among men starting with gay men and moving towards straight men in growing numbers in the last few years. If you ask me this behavior is extremely girly and is the man emulating himself by removing certain signs of coming to age. Real men in my opinion simply don't shave their body hair and they don't make up terms like "manscaping" when caught doing it like somehow that makes the girly activity manly again.

For a self-proclaimed "libertarian" you sure do spend a lot of time telling other people how they should live. What's wrong with extra hairy men trimming the beast a little? As a gay man you probably don't understand this comparison, but even women don't like getting a mouth full of hair during sex.

It's interesting to see though that you wouldn't trim your bush for your partner if he begged you to. Really letting yourself go, Henrin?
 
No, beyond the body building competition aspect, there are also other times when it is beneficial. Other sports such as wrestling or swimming, for example. Beyond that, some men do it because it is attractive to some women. Many people do things in order to attract certain members of the opposite sex. This is often one.

Yup, and changing your body to attract people is a sign of weakness. Think of those guys that get themselves circumcised because they believe women like that or because the woman they are with wants it like that, which is a very extreme case of where this kind of reasoning leads. The fact is both men and women should do with their body as they see fit, not how other people see fit. Like I said in the OP, this is something feminists promoted for women decades ago and something men should follow too. Of course, I suppose you could say I'm undermining that a bit by judging them for it, but hey, in the end they have a right to emasculate themselves and I have a right to judge them for it.

Your definition of masculinity offers ONE aspect of ONE issue. Masculinity is not defined by this one issue and the issue itself is more complicated then the aesthetics that you present. That's the biggest problem with your entire premise.

There is many ways to show you're a sissy and this is just one of them. :shrug:
 
Henrin spends a LOT of time thinking about other dudes' bodies and how they should live and act in order to be "manly enough" by his standards.

Not really. :shrug: I was reading a feminist blog when this idea came to mind actually. The feminist was actually opposed to it believe it or not. I do however admit to reading too much feminist propaganda, but I'm addicted to the stuff, so..


For a self-proclaimed "libertarian" you sure do spend a lot of time telling other people how they should live. What's wrong with extra hairy men trimming the beast a little? As a gay man you probably don't understand this comparison, but even women don't like getting a mouth full of hair during sex.

I judge people a lot. It's what I do. :shrug: Also, I don't care what women like. In fact, I'm telling men to think of themselves first and ignore such things. Oh just in case you're wondering, gay men are actually shaving and trimming their nuts less these days. In fact, straight men are leading the charge these days, not gay men.

It's interesting to see though that you wouldn't trim your bush for your partner if he begged you to. Really letting yourself go, Henrin?

It's my body, not hers. If she doesn't like my body then she knows where the door is.
 
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Yup, and changing your body to attract people is a sign of weakness.

LOL. I just picture morbidly obese Henrin who hasn't trimmed his hair or body hair in a decade telling his significant other that trying to be attractive for him would be a weakness, so he won't. At least you've got this forum to vent your sexual frustration.
 
Yup, and changing your body to attract people is a sign of weakness. Think of those guys that get themselves circumcised because they believe women like that or because the woman they are with wants it like that, which is a very extreme case of where this kind of reasoning leads. The fact is both men and women should do with their body as they see fit, not how other people see fit. Like I said in the OP, this is something feminists promoted for women decades ago and something men should follow too. Of course, I suppose you could say I'm undermining that a bit by judging them for it, but hey, in the end they have a right to emasculate themselves and I have a right to judge them for it.

It's not a sign of weakness at all. That's your interpretation. It's doing something to get what you want. That's a sign of strength and ambition and the knowledge of how to attain things. And of course you can judge people. But when you use opinion based terms like "emasculate" to describe something, don't be surprised when you are shown that your opinion is nothing but an opinion and not factual in any way.

There is many ways to show you're a sissy and this is just one of them. :shrug:

And there are many ways to show that you don't understand the difference between an opinion and a fact, and this thread is just one of them.
 
Also, it's something like 95% of younger men that shave or trim their body hair in one way or another, so it's a pretty common thing.

The ones you've spied on? Through the peep hole? :lol: Just a joke, no ill intent intended.


Also, women are increasingly demanding men be at least trimmed somewhere on his body.

Not buying that. I've known beautiful women who spend a lot of time on their appearance, and they're not really looking for men who do the same.
 
LOL. I just picture morbidly obese Henrin who hasn't trimmed his hair or body hair in a decade telling his significant other that trying to be attractive for him would be a weakness, so he won't. At least you've got this forum to vent your sexual frustration.

Hair on the head and face grows to stupid lengths if not cut and generally gets unhealthy and or hard to maintain after a certain point. Comparing body hair to hair on the head or face doesn't really work all that well. Also, I've been lifting weights since I was teenager and run eight miles a day, so I'm hardly obese. I am however over my BMI by a good bit, but that is normal for someone that lifts as much as I do.
 
I have met women who got an erotic thrill out of being with men who shaved certain areas. It was just the kind of sense of naughtiness I like women to have, within reason. I don't think playing along with that sort of thing has anything to do with masculinity, any more than it makes women less feminine to shave areas where their bodies naturally have hair. If a man and a woman think would be fun and exciting for them to shave this or that area, I don't see why they shouldn't.
 
I can't really bring myself to care much about what other men do with their body hair.
 
I don't think anyone on this forum ever suspected anything different.

Well, the first part is obvious pretty quickly and the second part gets obvious if you read enough of my posts.
 
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