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Guy Win's Women's Tour de Tucson

WillyPete said:
1 million among 300 million is not, especially since they aren't going to be uniform in thought or action.

My original position here stands. It's up to the governing body of the event\sport to decide what's fair play.

If sponsors, participants, or spectators don't like the rules they set, they can appeal to them or withdraw their support.
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And current athletes have appealed to them to no avail. Also, it's simply a fact that allowing some competitors to use performance enhancing drugs like testosterone and estrogen blockers but not other is not fair play.
 
calamity said:
It's less about "transsexuals" than it is men having huge advantages over women in physical sport. In general, women cannot compete with men effectively. That's why male world records are, with very rare exception, always beyond the reach of women.
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Nah. Don't believe you calamity. Your attitudes to transsexuals are on record in this forum. You could try to have a reasonable discussion to persuade the forum that you have a different attitude to transsexuals than the obvious one that runs like poison through your posts but, I doubt you will.
 
Henrin said:
And current athletes have appealed to them to no avail. Also, it's simply a fact that allowing some competitors to use performance enhancing drugs like testosterone and estrogen blockers but not other is not fair play.
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And you have yet to show that they have. We have several people that seem to be self appointed spokespersons for the cycling sisterhood but, not much actual evidence that there is outrage.

Come on 'jane' you know you can do it.
 
William Rea said:
And you have yet to show that they have. We have several people that seem to be self appointed spokespersons for the cycling sisterhood but, not much actual evidence that there is outrage.

Come on 'jane' you know you can do it.
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I don't know if any of the cyclists complained, but I know that many women in the MMA complained about the MTF in their sport.
 
Henrin said:
And current athletes have appealed to them to no avail. Also, it's simply a fact that allowing some competitors to use performance enhancing drugs like testosterone and estrogen blockers but not other is not fair play.
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I haven't seen any links to that effect, but I'll take your word for it.

The organizations that make the rule decide what is and isn't fair play. It sounds like their grievances were heard.

Sometimes that's the best you get.
 
William Rea said:
Nah. Don't believe you calamity. Your attitudes to transsexuals are on record in this forum. You could try to have a reasonable discussion to persuade the forum that you have a different attitude to transsexuals than the obvious one that runs like poison through your posts but, I doubt you will.
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I'm pretty consistent in being against men pretending to be women than I am women who say they are men. So, no.
 
calamity said:
I'm pretty consistent in being against men pretending to be women than I am women who say they are men. So, no.
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Yes, your prejudice is one consistent thing about you.
 
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