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Transgender Woman Arrested for Taking Pictures in Target Changing Room

Which isn't really bowing to pressure at all since most of their stores already have them and the "pressure" was to attempt to get them to change their policy altogether. It costs money to put them in and the plan was there to put them in already, before even the announcement earlier this year.


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THEY SAID they were doing it in response to pressure. That's not cpwill's assessment, it's Target's.

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Which isn't really bowing to pressure at all since most of their stores already have them and the "pressure" was to attempt to get them to change their policy altogether. It costs money to put them in and the plan was there to put them in already, before even the announcement earlier this year.


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"Some of our guests clearly are uncomfortable with our policy, and some are supportive," Cathy Smith, chief financial officer of Target, told reporters during a Wednesday conference call, according to NPR.
Single-stall bathrooms are reportedly already available in 1,400 of the company's 1,800 stores, with Target announcing it will outfit the remaining locations with private restrooms by 2017.
Company spokeswoman Katie Boylan told USA Today Target isn't altering its transgender bathroom policy, but the company has heard from both supporters and opponents and is "listening" to both sides.

yeah i have to agree, doing the remaining 400 stores and not changing the policy one bit isnt exactly bowing, that wording seems to dramatic but they are responding to customer feed back for sure . .
either way the policy hasn't changed, transgenders are not being discriminated against and can still use any facility they want.
 
THEY SAID they were doing it in response to pressure. That's not cpwill's assessment, it's Target's.

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They are upping their time line on an already planned action. They had already said this was in the works. So they didn't now to pressure. They spent a little extra money to expedite plans already there.


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So does this mean that people are going to drop all protests of Target now due to this action?


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No idea. Possibly.

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They are upping their time line on an already planned action. They had already said this was in the works. So they didn't now to pressure. They spent a little extra money to expedite plans already there.


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They were adding these bathrooms as they built. They are going back and spending $20 million to add them into all old stores according to them because of the pressure they were under on this issue.

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They were adding these bathrooms as they built. They are going back and spending $20 million to add them into all old stores according to them because of the pressure they were under on this issue.

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No. They made the announcement when they put out that they had this policy (because they didn't actually change any policy just announced the one they'd had in place for awhile, the same as many other stores have) that they would have single occupancy stalls available. They already had these renovations planned.


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No. They made the announcement when they put out that they had this policy (because they didn't actually change any policy just announced the one they'd had in place for awhile, the same as many other stores have) that they would have single occupancy stalls available. They already had these renovations planned.


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According to Target:

Target Corp. said it will spend $20 million to add a private bathroom to each of its stores by next year, after customer protests of its policy allowing transgender individuals to use whichever restroom corresponds with their gender identity. Most of Target’s 1,797 locations already have single-occupancy or unisex restrooms, but it will add the option to 277 stores by November and to about 20 remaining stores by March 2017, the company said on Wednesday. Target’s finance chief Cathy Smith said the move is a response to feedback from customers voicing displeasure over the company’s bathroom policy.

So TARGET is the one saying that you are incorrect, and this is a $20 million expenditure that was a RESPONSE TO FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMERS VOICING DISPLEASURE WITH THE COMPANY'S BATHROOM POLICY.

They are blatantly. Specifically. Saying you are incorrect.
 
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According to Target:

Target Corp. said it will spend $20 million to add a private bathroom to each of its stores by next year, after customer protests of its policy allowing transgender individuals to use whichever restroom corresponds with their gender identity. Most of Target’s 1,797 locations already have single-occupancy or unisex restrooms, but it will add the option to 277 stores by November and to about 20 remaining stores by March 2017, the company said on Wednesday. Target’s finance chief Cathy Smith said the move is a response to feedback from customers voicing displeasure over the company’s bathroom policy.

So TARGET is the one saying that you are incorrect, and this is a $20 million expenditure that was a RESPONSE TO FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMERS VOICING DISPLEASURE WITH THE COMPANY'S BATHROOM POLICY.

They are blatantly. Specifically. Saying you are incorrect.

They said they would make single stall restrooms available in their stores to customers who were uncomfortable with their policy when they first publicly announced the policy in May. It doesn't matter what they are saying now because they had already said they were going to put in these restrooms. At most, they moved up the timeline.


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They said they would make single stall restrooms available in their stores to customers who were uncomfortable with their policy when they first publicly announced the policy in May. It doesn't matter what they are saying now because they had already said they were going to put in these restrooms. At most, they moved up the timeline.

They are spending $20 million additional dollars to go back and add the option to other stores that did not have it. They are spending this money and going back to add such an option to each store explicitly directly because of the pressure they have gotten on the issue. We can assess this because they said that they are spending this money and going back to add such an option directly because of the pressure they have gotten on the issue.

Target says you are incorrect. They are the ones who are claiming that this is a change and an expenditure in response to pressure. You are making an unsourced claim in direct contradiction to what the people involved in the actual decision are saying about it.
 
They said they would make single stall restrooms available in their stores to customers who were uncomfortable with their policy when they first publicly announced the policy in May. It doesn't matter what they are saying now because they had already said they were going to put in these restrooms. At most, they moved up the timeline.


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They are spending $20 million additional dollars to go back and add the option to other stores that did not have it. They are spending this money and going back to add such an option to each store explicitly directly because of the pressure they have gotten on the issue. We can assess this because they said that they are spending this money and going back to add such an option directly because of the pressure they have gotten on the issue.

Target says you are incorrect. They are the ones who are claiming that this is a change and an expenditure in response to pressure. You are making an unsourced claim in direct contradiction to what the people involved in the actual decision are saying about it.

Rouge, do or have you already posted a link to the May announcement that states they already have the single user restrooms in the plans?

IF she can produce that article that has Target already saying it is in the plans, would you be willing, CP, to at least entertain the idea that the writer of the article that came later, left out that detail, either intentionally or accidentally?
 
Rouge, do or have you already posted a link to the May announcement that states they already have the single user restrooms in the plans?

IF she can produce that article that has Target already saying it is in the plans, would you be willing, CP, to at least entertain the idea that the writer of the article that came later, left out that detail, either intentionally or accidentally?

:shrug: if she can show that the money was allocated for those particular restrooms prior to Target's decisions regarding transgender-bathroom policy, then yes, that would be powerful evidence for her side. At that point, however, she would need to explain why Target is saying that that's not what they did, but that rather this allocation is specifically in response to the public pressure they got over their bathroom decision.
 
:shrug: if she can show that the money was allocated for those particular restrooms prior to Target's decisions regarding transgender-bathroom policy, then yes, that would be powerful evidence for her side. At that point, however, she would need to explain why Target is saying that that's not what they did, but that rather this allocation is specifically in response to the public pressure they got over their bathroom decision.
As I noted, adding ou are getting your information off an article. If the writer has a bias, they may be leaving certain details of what Target said out. Such as this was something they had already planned on but are now accelerating.
 
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