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Transgender Woman Arrested for Taking Pictures in Target Changing Room

faithful_servant said:
Because there are people who can stop them from going into those places in the first place. No, it's not 100% effective, but it's lot better than just opening the door for them...
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Who is going to stop the girl pictured below from going into a women's dressing room, and why?
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sangha said:
Why do right wingers always ignore that someone who ignored the law prohibiting the taking of pictures in a dressing room will not be deterred by a law prohibiting them from going into the dressing room to begin with?
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Exactly. They don't give a **** about the law to begin with.
 
sangha said:
Who is going to stop the girl pictured below from going into a women's dressing room, and why?
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Again, it's not about those who have made the transition and it's not about 100% perfection, it's about stopping the obvious offenders. It's about taking responsibility to protect over the privilege of getting what you want.
 
faithful_servant said:
Again, it's not about those who have made the transition and it's not about 100% perfection, it's about stopping the obvious offenders. It's about taking responsibility to protect over the privilege of getting what you want.
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Obvious offenders? Obvious offenders of what?
 
So? You wanna punish trans people for this perverts actions? That don't make no damn sense.

Unless you just wanna find justification for being a bigoted asswipe.
 
X Factor said:
Transgender Woman Arrested for Taking Pictures in Target Changing Room : snopes.com

I thought things like this weren't supposed to happen. In fact, I pretty much believed they wouldn't and said so several times but, if you look at the picture of the person at the link, he does not look female at all or look like he's even trying so is he really trans or just saying so to take a few pics? It also bothers me that the suggestion that something was only done about this because it occurred in a dressing room, not a bathroom and therefore was not subject to Target's policy regarding trans people using their bathrooms. So would nothing have been done had this been in a Target bathroom?

And yes, the link is from Snopes and they confirm this story is true (unlike a similar story in April).
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So in other words; no transgender was arrested for taking pictures in the changing room, a pervert got arrest for being what he is. Is that about it, nothing else? Ok, moving on now.
 
X Factor said:
Transgender Woman Arrested for Taking Pictures in Target Changing Room : snopes.com

I thought things like this weren't supposed to happen. In fact, I pretty much believed they wouldn't and said so several times but, if you look at the picture of the person at the link, he does not look female at all or look like he's even trying so is he really trans or just saying so to take a few pics? It also bothers me that the suggestion that something was only done about this because it occurred in a dressing room, not a bathroom and therefore was not subject to Target's policy regarding trans people using their bathrooms. So would nothing have been done had this been in a Target bathroom?

And yes, the link is from Snopes and they confirm this story is true (unlike a similar story in April).
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Not only was this expected to happen, it has been happening long before any such trans laws went into effect. The claim was never it wouldn't happen. The claim is that the law won't make any statistical difference in such events. Attention to such events may, however, increase.
 
Casper said:
So in other words; no transgender was arrested for taking pictures in the changing room, a pervert got arrest for being what he is. Is that about it, nothing else? Ok, moving on now.
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Not necessarily. There is nothing to say that a trans can't also be a pervert. There just is no prevalence of it among the trans community.
 
X Factor said:
Transgender Woman Arrested for Taking Pictures in Target Changing Room : snopes.com

I thought things like this weren't supposed to happen. In fact, I pretty much believed they wouldn't and said so several times but, if you look at the picture of the person at the link, he does not look female at all or look like he's even trying so is he really trans or just saying so to take a few pics? It also bothers me that the suggestion that something was only done about this because it occurred in a dressing room, not a bathroom and therefore was not subject to Target's policy regarding trans people using their bathrooms. So would nothing have been done had this been in a Target bathroom?

And yes, the link is from Snopes and they confirm this story is true (unlike a similar story in April).
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I knew this would happen. But, of course, all I got for saying it was hate.
 
maquiscat said:
Not necessarily. There is nothing to say that a trans can't also be a pervert. There just is no prevalence of it among the trans community.
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Except we do have a lot of men who are perverts wearing women's clothes. I guess we all should have some kind of radar to know who is truly trans and who is just another pervert in a dress.
 
calamity said:
Except we do have a lot of men who are perverts wearing women's clothes. I guess we all should have some kind of radar to know who is truly trans and who is just another pervert in a dress.
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And they have always been around. These laws do nothing to encourage or prevent that.
 
maquiscat said:
And they have always been around. These laws do nothing to encourage or prevent that.
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Target basically putting up a sign saying they will not attempt to keep men in dresses out of the women's facilities does not encourage perverts? Really?
 
X Factor said:
Transgender Woman Arrested for Taking Pictures in Target Changing Room : snopes.com

I thought things like this weren't supposed to happen. In fact, I pretty much believed they wouldn't and said so several times but, if you look at the picture of the person at the link, he does not look female at all or look like he's even trying so is he really trans or just saying so to take a few pics? It also bothers me that the suggestion that something was only done about this because it occurred in a dressing room, not a bathroom and therefore was not subject to Target's policy regarding trans people using their bathrooms. So would nothing have been done had this been in a Target bathroom?
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The only thing that I take away from this story is that someone broke the law, and should be punished accordingly. As it turns out, this isn't just a possibility if you're transgender. Cisgender women have been doing it to cisgender women, too (And in that case, in a much more systematic manner). Should we kick out all cisgender women from the women's restrooms to protect the other cisgender women, based on the chance that one of the cisgender women might be taping or photographing them?

Or should we agree that we should just kick out the people who're taking pictures of other people in the restroom and charge them with voyeurism or similar?
 
FieldTheorist said:
The only thing that I take away from this story is that someone broke the law, and should be punished accordingly. As it turns out, this isn't just a possibility if you're transgender. Cisgender women have been doing it to cisgender women, too (And in that case, in a much more systematic manner). Should we kick out all cisgender women from the women's restrooms to protect the other cisgender women, based on the chance that one of the cisgender women might be taping or photographing them?

Or should we agree that we should just kick out the people who're taking pictures of other people in the restroom and charge them with voyeurism or similar?
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Cisgender....lol
 
with millions...literally millions of pics of nekkid and scantily dressed women on the internet, why would some idiot risk getting arrested to do this stupid stunt?

Maybe a cry for help?

Once in Mesa, AZ when I was living there, some old perv was caught taking an upskirt pic of a cute hipanic lady at an ATM.
Just the sight of that guy with his IPhone in position angered me to no end.

With all the crap like that on the internet, why victimize some innocent lady going about her business?

Hell, you can even get women to come to your house for photo shoots all day long if you want. I will never understand this mentality.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
with millions...literally millions of pics of nekkid and scantily dressed women on the internet, why would some idiot risk getting arrested to do this stupid stunt?

Maybe a cry for help?

Once in Mesa, AZ when I was living there, some old perv was caught taking an upskirt pic of a cute hipanic lady at an ATM.
Just the sight of that guy with his IPhone in position angered me to no end.

With all the crap like that on the internet, why victimize some innocent lady going about her business?

Hell, you can even get women to come to your house for photo shoots all day long if you want. I will never understand this mentality.
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Why would someone like Cosby, who could have had sex with any woman he wanted, choose to drug them? It's a pathology of some sort. Obviously these people get off on non-consent.
 
FieldTheorist said:
Thanks for your brilliant commentary. I'll take these arguments under advisement.
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DO you have a special name for people who do not molest children too?
 
calamity said:
Why would someone like Cosby, who could have had sex with any woman he wanted, choose to drug them? It's a pathology of some sort. Obviously these people get off on non-consent.
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...and yet there are hundreds that would enjoy consenting.

I guess that is one part of human sexuality I just can't get my head around.

Even bondage is consensual, as was 100% of the other kinky crap I enjoyed and enjoy. It was fun playtime, rather than anything real and abusive.
 
calamity said:
DO you have a special name for people who do not molest children too?
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As I've said before, your language gives you away calamity. I'm sure that reading this thread aroused you in exactly the way that you were expecting and you had a happy ending. I guess that it has just come as a surprise to me that it was X that fluffed you.
 
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FieldTheorist said:
This is such an unserious point, I'm not willing to address it.
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We've had years of conservative Christians equating paedophilia with LGBT lifestyles, why would that bigotry change now?
 
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