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The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American College of

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Anyone that endorses the current treatment and claims it is medically ethical behavior has no creditably to speak on any medical issue.

Oh and btw, he's right. How does it feel to have forty percent of your fields work go down the drain? Must feel good to know your work is bull****. It must feel even better to be reminded of the fact that people are aware your field is full of **** on a regular basis.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gender-confused-suicide-rate-ten-times-national-average

A national survey of more than 6,500 transgender people asked the question "Have you tried to commit suicide?" Forty-one percent answered, "Yes."

"Chronically high stress levels," "anxiety," and "depression" are most commonly reported among active transgender people. Self-harm by cutting is often reported as well.

The suicide hotline for them, Trans Lifeline, handled more than 20,000 calls in its first nine months of operation alone. Greta Gustava Martela, a lesbian who founded the hotline, summarizes, "With 41% attempting suicide, you have to assume something's just not working for transgender folks."
 
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You do realize you linked an article from a propaganda site. And surprise surprise, there is not one link to any evidence of this claim. That tends to be the reality of lifesitenews.com.

Always when something says anything other than the party-line, it's propaganda. We know. :roll:
 
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Always when something says anything other than the party-line, it's propaganda. We know. :roll:

Well link something legitimate.

Lifesitenews.com is notoriously untrustworthy.

Further it's propaganda when it's propaganda. Source this from any thing other than lsn.com and the other news blogs that copy and paste their articles, than it might be legit.
 
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Well link something legitimate.

Lifesitenews.com is notoriously untrustworthy.

Further it's propaganda when it's propaganda. Source this from any thing other than lsn.com and the other news blogs that copy and paste their articles, than it might be legit.

How about you dispute a stat cited in the link. You don't believe the 41% suicide attempts; the 20,000 calls to hotlines, the high levels of anxiety, depression and other issues mentioned. Show them to be lies. Until then, the link is good.
 
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How about you dispute a stat cited in the link. You don't believe the 41% suicide attempts; the 20,000 calls to hotlines, the high levels of anxiety, depression and other issues mentioned. Show them to be lies. Until then, the link is good.
If it's a legitimate statistic why is it only available through a "news" site that clearly has a Christian bias?

Why didn't jokesitenonsense.com link any proof that these 20,000 calls occurred?

If you live in a world where lifesitenews.com is a good source for anything accept the downfall of western culture, you are living a delusion.
 
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If it's a legitimate statistic why is it only available through a "news" site that clearly has a Christian bias?

Why didn't jokesitenonsense.com link any proof that these 20,000 calls occurred?

If you live in a world where lifesitenews.com is a good source for anything accept the downfall of western culture, you are living a delusion.

Well, on this trans issue, they are probably not very far off.
 
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I'll destroy your link, watch this.

Lifesitenews.com said:
But studies repeatedly show that "transgender" people who seek to become the opposite sex are in fact not happy or fulfilled. In fact, a life-or-death internal war is continually going on within, to the degree that many, if not most, seek to end their lives.
What studies? Who conducted these studies, who supervised them? What was the methodology for determining the outcome?

If I had a claim like this it's only logical to support it.

Anybody can claim the studies referenced here repeatedly show that dogs prefer Neptune to Pluto. I could also use these same studies to say that it is repeatedly shown that chickens have a better understanding of quantum mechanics than the most learned professors on the subject, and those claim would be absolutely 100% as legitimate as life sitenews.com's claim

This is fun let's see what I can debunk next.


Lifesitenews.com said:
That's what the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and the Williams Institute found when the foundation analyzed results from the National Transgender Discrimination Survey. The numbers of suicide attempts are heartbreaking.

Over 41 percent of active "transgender" people try to kill themselves. That's ten times the average 4.6 percent suicide attempt rate.
Again a claim without a source. They went through the trouble to read up or make up a foundation for suicide prevention, why not link their findings. Did this foundation not publish this info? If not hire did some two bit internet blog get their info?

If this is true why didn't they lead with the link to the research?


Lifesitenews.com said:
And this study isn't the only one proving that those who seek to live as if they were the opposite sex are, in fact, killing themselves. Over a dozen other surveys worldwide have found the same alarmingly high suicide rates.
Yet we can't link a single one. Watch this. Trillions of studies prove that there are lava men that live six miles under the crust of the earth. And that is way more true because trillions is way more than dozens.

My claim about lava men is 100% as legitimate as lifesitenews.com's


Lifesitenews.com said:
A national survey of more than 6,500 transgender people asked the question "Have you tried to commit suicide?" Forty-one percent answered, "Yes."
Again there is no servey linked.

A national survey of 7200 women over the age of 70 confirmed they perfer death metal music.

Again that claim is 100% as legitimate as lifesitenews.com's

Yeah this is way too easy.

I have no trouble understanding why you feel fire this calamity, my Labrador falling for it would surprise me however.
 
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most kids don't know what gender is till age 8.
that is when they start seeing things a this is boy's and this is girls.

this false presumption that any kid < 8 knows what gender they are is absurd.
any quack doctor or anyone else pushing that onto kids should be arrested for child abuse.

one son runs into his sisters rooms an plays with dolls and if you ask him he goes I'm boy dad.
who cares. other times he is smashing monster trucks together and wrestling with his brothers.

people need to stop forcing gender identity on kids and let them be kids. fricken PC crowd needs
to be locked up and put away as the lunatics they are.

Indeed. Most assuredly agree with this, and exactly my point in my earlier post.
 
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So you admit your link is a joke? Good.

Actually, you admitted it was good by not blowing up the numbers.
 
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Actually, you admitted it was good by not blowing up the numbers.
Incorrect. I debunked it completely in post #58

Did you just pretend that didn't happen?
 
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Incorrect. I debunked it completely in post #58

Did you just pretend that didn't happen?

more like you voiced your opinion.
 
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My opinion that claims should be supported?

Googling some of those claims in the article lead directly to PDF files. You are free to read them.

Here's a nice "legitimate" source saying much the same thing.

Transgender study looks at 'exceptionally high' suicide-attempt rate - latimes

Even transgender people at comparatively "low" risk were still much more likely to have attempted suicide than the general population, they wrote, with "lows" often ranging from 30% to 40%. Transgender and gender-nonconforming people who had gotten graduate degrees, for instance, had a lifetime risk of attempting suicide of 31% -- lower than less-educated transgender people, but still astoundingly high.
 
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How about you dispute a stat cited in the link. You don't believe the 41% suicide attempts; the 20,000 calls to hotlines, the high levels of anxiety, depression and other issues mentioned. Show them to be lies. Until then, the link is good.

It's not a stat if there is no linked study to back it up. And by linked, referenced by name and who did the study is good enough. Until then it is an unsubstantiated claim.
 
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I'll destroy your link, watch this.


What studies? Who conducted these studies, who supervised them? What was the methodology for determining the outcome?

If I had a claim like this it's only logical to support it.

Anybody can claim the studies referenced here repeatedly show that dogs prefer Neptune to Pluto. I could also use these same studies to say that it is repeatedly shown that chickens have a better understanding of quantum mechanics than the most learned professors on the subject, and those claim would be absolutely 100% as legitimate as life sitenews.com's claim

This is fun let's see what I can debunk next.


Again a claim without a source. They went through the trouble to read up or make up a foundation for suicide prevention, why not link their findings. Did this foundation not publish this info? If not hire did some two bit internet blog get their info?

If this is true why didn't they lead with the link to the research?


Yet we can't link a single one. Watch this. Trillions of studies prove that there are lava men that live six miles under the crust of the earth. And that is way more true because trillions is way more than dozens.

My claim about lava men is 100% as legitimate as lifesitenews.com's


Again there is no servey linked.

A national survey of 7200 women over the age of 70 confirmed they perfer death metal music.

Again that claim is 100% as legitimate as lifesitenews.com's

Yeah this is way too easy.

I have no trouble understanding why you feel fire this calamity, my Labrador falling for it would surprise me however.

I saw a article the other day that said that 52% of Christians who are against transgenders commit suicide because they can't handle the existence of transgenders.
 
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It's not a stat if there is no linked study to back it up. And by linked, referenced by name and who did the study is good enough. Until then it is an unsubstantiated claim.

Do you dispute the 41% figure? Or are you just crying about a link that says stuff you do not like like CLX?
 
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I saw a article the other day that said that 52% of Christians who are against transgenders commit suicide because they can't handle the existence of transgenders.

And that study is equal to the ones listed in the link calamity posted.
 
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And that study is equal to the ones listed in the link calamity posted.
Oh look...another link that says the same thing, citing the same study. Is USA Today a Right Wing site too? :roll:

Suicide attempts are alarmingly common among transgender individuals such as Lampe; 41% try to kill themselves at some point in their lives, compared with 4.6% of the general public. The numbers come from a study by the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and the Williams Institute...

Transgender people face alarmingly high risk of suicide

Lefties certainly have a hard time with accepting numbers that crap on their little gay agenda program. Were you not the same guy who questioned the CDC's data on HIV and men having sex with men?
 
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As to suicide hotlines for trans....check this out.

After North Carolina?s Law, Trans Suicide Hotline Calls Double - The Daily Beast

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Here's a link to a citation that liberals have to accept as fact...after all, it's the one true news site of the Left.

Suicide Hotline Is Lifeline for Transgender Youth | Al Jazeera America

From the start, raising money has been difficult. After Leelah Alcorn, a transgender teen in Ohio, killed herself late last year, the TLL received a flurry of online donations. This enabled Martela to leave her job and work full time on the line. Still, she estimated that TLL raises “about 25 percent of the money that we need on a monthly basis,” even as demand grows. In a little under a year, the hotline has logged over 20,000 calls from 5,500 people around the United States and Canada.

Oh look, it says the same thing as the article in the RW Christian link.
 
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Do you dispute the 41% figure? Or are you just crying about a link that says stuff you do not like like CLX?

I am saying that the article you linked has no actual supporting data or links to actual studies. So even if the 41% figure were correct, there is nothing you have presented that actually supported that. Additionally, since your assertion that SRS causes this rate instead of reducing it, your linked article also doesn't show the difference between before and after which is key to showing cause, even before you being to look for correlation/causation fallacy errors.
 
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And that study is equal to the ones listed in the link calamity posted.

You realize that was sarcasm yes?
 
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