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Being gay is a choice.[W:471]

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moon1336 said:
Science would currently suggest that it is a complex combination of both genetic and environmental factors. That means sexual orientation is more of a choice for some then others, which means being gay is a choice.
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Ugh. Being gay is not a choice.

And even if it was, so the **** what?

It's my right as a goddamn human being and a American to have the freedom to make my own decisions.
 
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SDET said:
Temptation is temptation, whether it's the smell of bread when you're broke, facing the choice of shoplifting or not or some other temptation. But to answer to your specific question, in a word, no. I'm not one of those people who is "creeped out" by people that do that, just aware of the consequences of God's judgement. Some of the older church ladies refuse to use the term "gay" and insist on using the term "sodomite" instead.
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I don't fault people for fighting the temptation of happiness. I just don't buy the God judgement business with regard to it.

I find it sad that people within religion prey on that insecurity.
 
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Helix said:
Bull**** this deep makes me sad that I forgot to wear hip waders and a snorkel.
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If you need the snorkel, aren't hip waders a bit insufficient?
 
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Unless your life depends on something, or unless coercion compels you to it, everything is a choice.
 
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Gaztopian said:
Unless your life depends on something, or unless coercion compels you to it, everything is a choice.
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Sexual orientation is not a choice, thats factually not how that works.

I person could choose to do or not do sexual acts but the orientation is not a choice.
 
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moon1336 said:
Science would currently suggest that it is a complex combination of both genetic and environmental factors. That means sexual orientation is more of a choice for some then others, which means being gay is a choice.
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My being straight is not a choice.

Is your being straight a choice? Do you feel that you could choose to be gay? That you could find men as sexy as women? I could not.
 
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SDET said:
Temptation is temptation, whether it's the smell of bread when you're broke, facing the choice of shoplifting or not or some other temptation. But to answer to your specific question, in a word, no. I'm not one of those people who is "creeped out" by people that do that, just aware of the consequences of God's judgement. Some of the older church ladies refuse to use the term "gay" and insist on using the term "sodomite" instead.
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Interesting that supposedly Christian ladies would choose insult and hatred rather than kindness and love. I guess the 'What would Jesus do?' ethic is dead.
 
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Gaztopian said:
Unless your life depends on something, or unless coercion compels you to it, everything is a choice.
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Is it?? Can you choose to get attracted physically to? I know I can't.
 
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Gaztopian said:
huh? that's not how a discussion works.
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And if being gay is a choice, why are people in the Middle East being beheaded for being gay? Shouldn't they just choose to be straight again, so they won't die?
 
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TheGoverness said:
Ugh. Being gay is not a choice.

And even if it was, so the **** what?

It's my right as a goddamn human being and a American to have the freedom to make my own decisions.
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Next libs will claim killing someone is not a choice but your DNA makes you do it , wait you have , surprise ! :lamo ...........
Can Your Genes Make You Kill?
MAOA’s job is to break down crucial neurotransmitters, such as dopamine and serotonin. If left unchecked, these potent chemicals can build up in the brain and cause a loss of impulse control and an increase in violence and rage. In part, Waldroup’s lawyers were claiming, his genes made him do it. :roll:
 
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AGENT J said:
Uhm your own statement doesnt even support the unsupportable idea its a choice LMAO Genetic and environmental factors arent choices :lamo

I love when OPs instantly fail its hilarious<that gayness is nurture not nature>.
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OK dude, explain how Jason Collins, a seven foot basketball player from Stanford and the NBA is straight and Jarron Collins, his identical twin, who also played at Stanford and the NBA is gay. Hum? If there was a gay gene, both Jarron and Jason would be gay.
 
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Re: Being gay is a choice.

moon1336 said:
Science would currently suggest that it is a complex combination of both genetic and environmental factors. That means sexual orientation is more of a choice for some then others, which means being gay is a choice.
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You apparently chose to be straight. With all of the nice guys in the world, why?
 
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I have dated women who told me about a brief but enjoyable homosexual encounter or two they'd had long before. There must have been some erotic attraction, because they had orgasms. And yet they married, had children, and had dated only men before or since their marriages. And they said that at the time they had these homosexual flings, part of what made them so arousing is that they felt they were doing something very naughty and taboo. They didn't exactly rush to tell their parents about how much fun they'd had rolling around in the nude with some other chick. That sounds to me very much like an urge they chose to act on, the choice made easier by wine and marijuana.
 
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"Gay", choice or not, is socially useless and medically disgusting. That is why even cable channels don't show two guys copulating.
 
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Socrates1 said:
Next libs will claim killing someone is not a choice but your DNA makes you do it , wait you have , surprise ! :lamo ...........
Can Your Genes Make You Kill?
MAOA’s job is to break down crucial neurotransmitters, such as dopamine and serotonin. If left unchecked, these potent chemicals can build up in the brain and cause a loss of impulse control and an increase in violence and rage. In part, Waldroup’s lawyers were claiming, his genes made him do it. :roll:
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What the **** are even talking about? Nothing you just said has anything to do with what I said.
 
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I can't help to think that people that say being gay is a choice are secretly bisexual.
 
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legalimmigrant said:
"Gay", choice or not, is socially useless and medically disgusting. That is why even cable channels don't show two guys copulating.
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Hunting is socially useless and medically disgusting. In my personal opinion.

Does my opinion matter for anything?
 
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cabse5 said:
OK dude, explain how Jason Collins, a seven foot basketball player from Stanford and the NBA is straight and Jarron Collins, his identical twin, who also played at Stanford and the NBA is gay. Hum? If there was a gay gene, both Jarron and Jason would be gay.
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You are assuming that 1) It is only a gene. If you take a look at identical twins, there is a 52% correspondence between identical twins, while it drops significantly with fraternal twins (down to 22%, which is still very high.

The area of investigation is currently investigating the role of epigenics in that relationship, as well as an imbalance of hormones in development between the twins.

The fact that there is a 50% correspondence between identical twins , and only a 22% correspondence between fraternal twins shows while genetics is not the only indication, there is a strong genetic component to it. Other triggers might be one twin might have a different exposure of hormones or other chemicals in the womb than the other twin does. That does not mean that 'being gay' is a choice, it is just that genetics is only a partial answer to the question.. but does play a role.

The error you are making is that you are looking at one data point (that was cherry picked), and making a generality from it, rather than examining all the data, and then coming to a conclusion.
 
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Deuce said:
Hunting is socially useless and medically disgusting. In my personal opinion.

Does my opinion matter for anything?
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I am in a more rural areas, and there are a number of families that hunt to reduce their grocery bills over the year.. and plus the fact, it is really important to control the population of dear and bear. As such, I do not consider it socially useless. Trophy hunting certainly socially useless.
 
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RAMOSS said:
I am in a more rural areas, and there are a number of families that hunt to reduce their grocery bills over the year.. and plus the fact, it is really important to control the population of dear and bear. As such, I do not consider it socially useless. Trophy hunting certainly socially useless.
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Hey look, someone gets it.

And the gentleman I was responding to personally considers homosexuality to be "socially useless." I, of course, can identify social functions of homosexuality just like you did with hunting.
 
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Deuce said:
Hey look, someone gets it.

And the gentleman I was responding to personally considers homosexuality to be "socially useless." I, of course, can identify social functions of homosexuality just like you did with hunting.
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Social functions of homosexuality .. well, many people need bonding to be emotionally and therefore physically healthy.
 
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