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Who cares what bathroom can be used?

I can't speak for anyone else, and I'm certainly not a transgender anything, but I have to say that there are lots of people, what I'll call regular people for lack of a better way of distinguishing standard individuals from the plethora of self and otherwise identified individuals, who have some "issues" with public washrooms, not the least of which is finding one that's clean.

Just anecdotally, I recall as a young boy of about 7 going to my first hockey game at Maple Leaf Gardens and needing to visit the bathroom after drinking a large soda and walking into that room and seeing this massive trough in the middle of the room and men of all shapes, sizes, ages, all surrounding it and peeing into it. As a shy kid, that horrified me and made me hate going to the bathroom away from home for a long time.

And for those who say it never happens, there are lots of occasions where I've visited a public bathroom and there's a shady character hanging around up to no good so it can happen. Not all people are well meaning and innocent.

But I do agree with the sentiment in the title of this thread - are public bathrooms the serious societal issue of our time?
 
The big push today for bathroom legislation is coming mostly from conservative lawmakers and their base.

They're making just as much an issue out of it as they made about allowing openly gay men/women to serve in the military, raising similar concerns.

Many democrat presidents, congresses, and senates have come and gone during the military gay ban. The right doesn't own this.
 
Seattle man tests transgender rule by undressing in women's locker room

Thats what happens when you men that they are really women (or 7 year old little girls) if they really really really believe it to be true.

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That's what happens when you insist people use the bathroom based on the gender they were born with.
 
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That's what happens when you insist people use the bathroom based on the gender they were born with.

no, that's what happens when people are looking to make a public politcal point and use the restroom they are "supposed to" instead of the one they actually fit in.


both sides are fricking idiots on this issue... it's a circus of dullards and dolts trying to outstupid each other.
 
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That's what happens when you insist people use the bathroom based on the gender they were born with.
As I said...thats the problem with posting the occasional...you have to deal with the actuals. That girl looks like she has probably completed her attempt at transformation. Would you agree? And if there hadnt been this inane push to force transgenderism which caused the poorly thought out backlash, we wouldnt be in this mess. And unfortunately, you are far more likely to get your daughter sharing a bathroom with this...

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than guys sharing it with that.
 
Conservatives wouldn't be caterwalling about nothing and poetically holding Donald Trump's feet to the fire.
Conservatives are caterwalling about being forced to accept transgendered people and all of the 58 different varieties of gender types into bathrooms where women and children are. They are objecting to the will and concerns of the vast majority being **** on in favor of the whim of .03% of the population...or less. They are concerned about the abuses to the ridiculous gender-go-round insanity. They are in part concern because there have in fact been abuses to the changes forced on people.

No matter how desperately they want it...you can force legislate bathroom integration. You will never force integrate acceptance and 'normal'. All that is going to do is piss people off.
 
Conservatives are caterwalling about being forced to accept transgendered people and all of the 58 different varieties of gender types into bathrooms where women and children are.
Hoodwinked. Nothing keeps them out of there.

They are objecting to the will and concerns of the vast majority being **** on in favor of the whim of .03% of the population...or less.
I wonder why the left would do that?

They are concerned about the abuses to the ridiculous gender-go-round insanity.
Why? We're talking about likely less than 0.03% of the population.

They are in part concern because there have in fact been abuses to the changes forced on people.

No matter how desperately they want it...you can force legislate bathroom integration. You will never force integrate acceptance and 'normal'. All that is going to do is piss people off.
Anger over nonsense. Excellent distraction.
 
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That's what happens when you insist people use the bathroom based on the gender they were born with.

So how often does that person take pictures in the restroom? That is at least the third picture of that individual I have seen posted with them taking pictures in the restroom.
 
Conservatives are caterwalling about being forced to accept transgendered people and all of the 58 different varieties of gender types into bathrooms where women and children are. They are objecting to the will and concerns of the vast majority being **** on in favor of the whim of .03% of the population...or less. They are concerned about the abuses to the ridiculous gender-go-round insanity. They are in part concern because there have in fact been abuses to the changes forced on people.

No matter how desperately they want it...you can force legislate bathroom integration. You will never force integrate acceptance and 'normal'. All that is going to do is piss people off.

Vancemack.

Think about this, in what universe do you think someone suddenly decides to "change their gender" mid meal, in order to follow a child or adult into a bathroom at a restaurant in order to sexually assault them, as if somehow that idea would absolve them of responsibility for such a crime, if someone wanted to commit such an act, in what would probably NOT be an empty bathroom... Do you think a law specifically targeting transgender people would stop them?

Are you gonna install some ****ing Star Trek **** on the doorways to scan for penises and vaginas and will everyone have their birth certificates handy for the ****ing bathroom gender bouncer?

Again, by this stupidity.

This person by these laws would HAVE to use a mens bathroom:

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And this person would have to use the womens bathroom:

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Vancemack, does that to you, make any. ****ing. Sense. At. ALL.

But leave it to Republicans to fight things that don't exist,

Voter Fraud.

2nd Trimester fetal pain.

Oh and the made up notion of transgender folk sexually assaulting urinators :roll:
 
Vancemack.

Think about this, in what universe do you think someone suddenly decides to "change their gender" mid meal, in order to follow a child or adult into a bathroom at a restaurant in order to sexually assault them, as if somehow that idea would absolve them of responsibility for such a crime, if someone wanted to commit such an act, in what would probably NOT be an empty bathroom... Do you think a law specifically targeting transgender people would stop them?

Are you gonna install some ****ing Star Trek **** on the doorways to scan for penises and vaginas and will everyone have their birth certificates handy for the ****ing bathroom gender bouncer?

Again, by this stupidity.

This person by these laws would HAVE to use a mens bathroom:

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And this person would have to use the womens bathroom:

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Vancemack, does that to you, make any. ****ing. Sense. At. ALL.

But leave it to Republicans to fight things that don't exist,

Voter Fraud.

2nd Trimester fetal pain.

Oh and the made up notion of transgender folk sexually assaulting urinators :roll:
I dont think you have gotten my point. I agree...and have said so numerous times and in various threads. There is little to any concern about an actual transgendered person re a 'threat' to harm women or children in the womens room. In fact what i have said is that at WORSE what you will likely find is the bitter angry unpretty trannies being annoying ****heads because they 'can' and there isnt **** anyone can say about it.

The actual threat of harm comes from those that would exploit the inclusion laws. Again...that is something I have said on numerous occasions. And yes...we have seen numerous instances of that happening.
 
no, that's what happens when people are looking to make a public politcal point and use the restroom they are "supposed to" instead of the one they actually fit in.


both sides are fricking idiots on this issue... it's a circus of dullards and dolts trying to outstupid each other.

There are people who insist this individual use the ladies' room because he was born a woman.

You tell me, bro.
 
I dont think you have gotten my point. I agree...and have said so numerous times and in various threads. There is little to any concern about an actual transgendered person re a 'threat' to harm women or children in the womens room. In fact what i have said is that at WORSE what you will likely find is the bitter angry unpretty trannies being annoying ****heads because they 'can' and there isnt **** anyone can say about it.

The actual threat of harm comes from those that would exploit the inclusion laws. Again...that is something I have said on numerous occasions. And yes...we have seen numerous instances of that happening.

You think rapists are stopped by bathroom signs with stick figures?
 
You think rapists are stopped by bathroom signs with stick figures?
I think you have made it more difficult to enforce and protect what should be basic and commonly understood rules. We have seen evidence now of men...NOT 'transgendered men' but men claiming to be (guess what you cant 'prove') that have been going into womens bathrooms. Why? Because they can.

Frankly...that we are having a discussion on whether or not men should be allowed in womens bathrooms is rather comical. But welcome to America...the land where now special snowflakes qualify for 58 different gender types, otherkins can be wolves and dolphins, a grown man can be a 7 year old girl, doods can be vampires, and people will chop off body parties to be their true handicapped selves.
 
Of all the things that transgendered individuals should care about, the specific bathroom that society allows them to use ought to the least important .

FACT: restroom use isn't supposed to be a significant component of a person's life--it's just supposed to be a place to relieve oneself quickly and leave :rolleyes:.

Yet legislators in right wing America are ejaculating all over themselves in a rush to pass hundreds of complex bathroom laws, as though this were the pressing issue of the day. And transgendered individuals are only exacerbating the problem by making a big deal out something of practically zero significance.

What the hell does it matter if a man or woman is only permitted to use a restroom with a particular symbol on it? Unless there's a shortage of restrooms in a public facility, it has a near-zero impact on a person's life.

Of course, ideally, there shouldn't even be segregated restrooms. As of today, the only justification for their existence is the mainstream public's silly, childish insecurities about humans of different biological genders relieving themselves in a closed area where there's a slightly increased likelihood of one or more of them have their erogenous areas exposed to someone else.

However, since that's the way it is currently, so be it. It still doesn't make sense for anyone, transgendered or otherwise, to raise a fist over it. Let's say you're transgendered--then, if some sexually insecure, right wing dolt has a problem w/the idea of you using a restroom of your opposite biological gender, that's his/her problem. But why should you care? After all, if you're above all that bigoted nonsense, then it shouldn't matter to you if you're using the restroom designated for your biological gender, right?

I think completely co-ed bathrooms would actually create the epidemic of sexual abuse that conservatives misguidedly believe will happen by allowing transgenders to use bathroom of the sex they identify with.
 
I think you have made it more difficult to enforce and protect what should be basic and commonly understood rules. We have seen evidence now of men...NOT 'transgendered men' but men claiming to be (guess what you cant 'prove') that have been going into womens bathrooms. Why? Because they can.

Frankly...that we are having a discussion on whether or not men should be allowed in womens bathrooms is rather comical. But welcome to America...the land where now special snowflakes qualify for 58 different gender types, otherkins can be wolves and dolphins, a grown man can be a 7 year old girl, doods can be vampires, and people will chop off body parties to be their true handicapped selves.

well clearly someone doesn't believe in self determination
 
yeah, the pics by the usual transphobes are disgusting and i could swear curt schilling must post here
 
That is simply not true. The laws you are seeing written today are in response to local legislation and court ordered pushes to allow any of the 58 different gender types to do whatever they want and to legislate acceptance and normalcy. And at the end of the day, the concern is NOT about true 'transgendered' men using womens bathrooms. The concern is about the number of people that will exploit those new laws. And we have seen an ever increasing number of THOSE cases. At worst...the conservative laws being passed are a response to poorly conceived and poorly planed 'inclusion' acts that others believe will put women and children at risk...NOT because of the .03% of the people that might truly need the laws but because of the scumbags that will exploit them. They dont want THIS guy in the womens room...
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Every freedom/privelege can be exploited.

BY that line of reasoning, all male adults should be denied the right to use public restrooms because some might exploit that freedom to molest young boys :rolleyes:

There's no such ban because it's been understood that it's not worth trading such privileges in exchange for others' security, as long as there are (legal) consequences for abusing that privilege.
 
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Every freedom/privelege can be exploited.

BY that line of reasoning, all male adults should be denied the right to use public restrooms because some might exploit that freedom to molest young boys :rolleyes:

There's no such ban because it's been understood that it's not worth trading such privileges in exchange for others' security, as long as there are (legal) consequences for abusing that privilege.
How about we end all the nonsense. How about "its just plain ****ing stupid to believe men should be in the womens room". How about no matter hard you really really really want it to be true, a man will never be a woman. That this country has gender****ed itself so badly is frankly...mind numbing. We have people believing they are cats...are they cats? We have people believing they should have been born deaf. Are they deaf? We have people believing they are vampires. Are they vampires? When you have reached the point that you cant admit that a 54 year old man isnt a 7 year old girl? Come on. We drove off the cliff about 8 miles ago.
 
The OP is a pretty silly question given that the whole debate is built on the idea that transgender people care a lot about which bathroom can be used...
 
Your post caused me to think of my conservative Christians despise trans-genderism so much: tampering with God's handiwork. God made male and God made female: People are playing God by attempting to tamper with God's decision of which gender to assign a person.

We "play God" every time we treat an illness or disease.
 
men who masquerade as transgenders could rape women and girls
 
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