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sangha said:
The same groups of people who have problems with the Benham's have problems with those right wing christian bigots.

The reason why Phil got more attention is because he's very famous while the Benham's and the right wing christians are nobodies.

But please do keep arguing that different events are the same. It really proves that you know what you're talking about.
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please continue the silence whenever black or Hispanic groups speak out against homosexuality in general or gay marriage. Testify as to what you are.
 
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Navy Pride said:
As SSM has nothing to do with the 14th amendment.
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Sure it does. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman is a classification of gender. (obviously) Under the 14th amendment to the US constitution, a gender-based classification is subject to challenge on equal protection grounds. To uphold the distinction, the state must demonstrate that the measure is "substantially related" to an "important state interest."

Navy Pride said:
The silent majority does not.
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The polls seem to indicate that you aren't part of the majority any more. Also, your side lost all four votes in 2012, and abandoned the attempt to put it to a vote in 2014 in Indiana.
 
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Navy Pride said:
As SSM has nothing to do with the 14th amendment.
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NP....simple question. Do you even know what the 14th amendment is? You often try to cite it....but it is obviously that you don't have a clue. The 14th amendment doesn't talk about any specific law. It talks about how the US Constitution is applicable to the states. You just might want to actually read it some time.....oh....but that would screw up your knee-jerk posts.........never mind.
 
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Navy Pride said:
The silent majority does not.
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LOL.....the "silent majority" is nothing but a miniscule handful of loudmouth activist so-called "Christian" perverts that want to push their activist agenda on the entire country. The have pretty much been marginalized by the good people of this country. You don't hear much from them anymore these days.
 
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CriticalThought said:
Maybe they are silent because they do not have a decent argument.
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They are silent, because a majority of them died in the last 5 years.
 
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Deuce said:
Sure it does. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman is a classification of gender. (obviously) Under the 14th amendment to the US constitution, a gender-based classification is subject to challenge on equal protection grounds. To uphold the distinction, the state must demonstrate that the measure is "substantially related" to an "important state interest."
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The word “gender”, as it is now often misapplied to human beings, is a construct of political correctness. The proper term is “sex”. Humans, like nearly all other animals, come in two sexes (not genders)—male and female. “Gender” is a term used by those who wish to disregard the essential and critical differences between the sexes, to treat them as interchangeable, and even to uphold the idea that someone who is undeniably of one sex can “identify” as the opposite “gender”, and demand to be treated accordingly.

Marriage is a specific kind of union between two humans of the opposite sex (not gender). That is what marriage is, that is what marriage has always been, and that is what marriage will always be. Anyone who claims otherwise is only playing the same dishonest game that goes along with the misuse of the word “gender” in other contexts.
 
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CriticalThought said:
There is an infinitely better argument for SSM applying to the 14th than your bullcrap that this incident has anything to do with the 1st.
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Only in a lefties mind like you.
 
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beefheart said:
They are silent, because a majority of them died in the last 5 years.
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This silent majority business was popularized by Nixon in the 60s. The doofus didn't understand that the "silent majority" referred to the dead. The term was used that way for many years.

The living aren't silent. To believe that*there are countlesspeople that agree with you but are too chicken to say anything means both, they don't agree with you, and also that people have to make up phony people to feel justified in what they believe.
 
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roguenuke said:
Marriage is a contract making two people legally kin in the form of spouses. That is what marriage is.
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Why stop at two?
 
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VanceMack said:
There was absolutely national attention given and a definite result. Was there nationwide outrage when Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty made his statements?

Black pastors making direct threats to gay marriage and outright stating that if you are pro gayu marriage you are against God....and...silence.

But you go on pretending you are 'representing'.
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can you provide examples of people speaking out against those guys getting a show before that got scraped?
 
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VanceMack said:
There was absolutely national attention given and a definite result. Was there nationwide outrage when Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty made his statements?

Black pastors making direct threats to gay marriage and outright stating that if you are pro gayu marriage you are against God....and...silence.

But you go on pretending you are 'representing'.
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the comments on that article you posted seem overwhelmingly critical of the pastors thick this is just a case of people not coming across the story
 
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Navy Pride said:
The silent majority does not.
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how would you know if their silent?
 
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Bob Blaylock said:
The word “gender”, as it is now often misapplied to human beings, is a construct of political correctness. The proper term is “sex”. Humans, like nearly all other animals, come in two sexes (not genders)—male and female. “Gender” is a term used by those who wish to disregard the essential and critical differences between the sexes, to treat them as interchangeable, and even to uphold the idea that someone who is undeniably of one sex can “identify” as the opposite “gender”, and demand to be treated accordingly.
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Lol, the term "gender" refers to masculinity and femininity, not really, sexes. Since men can be more feminine and women can be masculine, and nothing at all is wrong with them. The problem comes in when people try to force the social construct thatthe sexes must be reflected by appropriate genders, masculinity for men and femininity for women. These constructs really serve no purpose any longer. It would be perfectly fine with me to have a genderless society, I frankly would prefer that. We would not be so concerned with people who's gender didn't line up with their sex. Backward people wouldn't be able to say that something is only appropriate for one sex over the other. It's all pretend anyway.

Marriage is a specific kind of union between two humans of the opposite sex (not gender).
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Incorrect, the term marriage applies to the joining of two or more parts to make a whole.
That is what marriage is, that is what marriage has always been, and that is what marriage will always be.
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Nope, it applies to a couple with partners of the same sex as well.
Anyone who claims otherwise is only playing the same dishonest game that goes along with the misuse of the word “gender” in other contexts.
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The no true Scotsman fallacy, what a tired but of rhetoric.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Good question.
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Thanks. I am curious as to what Rogue Nuke's answer will be.
 
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They are being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs. If HGTV can cancel them for being christians then others can fire folks for being gay.
 
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Cryptic said:
Thanks. I am curious as to what Rogue Nuke's answer will be.
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I personally don't think it's any of your business or mine if people want to have a plural marriage.

Who invented this concept that conservatives have to be against marriage of persons of the same sex? Or even plural marriages.

It's not conserving anything to use the government to boss people around. Frankly it's the opposite. It's using the government liberally to dictate what can and can't be acceptable. I don't know what the state feels they have to be involved for. It's not going to stop anything.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Who invented this concept that conservatives have to be against marriage of persons of the same sex? Or even plural marriages.
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There are different kinds of conservatives. Some right wing libertarians support gay marriage, and may even support plural marriage.

As for myself, there is a social component to what is, or is not "a marriage". A society via the State does not need to recognize gay marriages, or heterosexual marriages for that matter. That same state however, may choose to recognize one form or the other, or both.

In short, I view SSM as a states rights issue.

Slyhunter said:
They are being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs. If HGTV can cancel them for being christians then others can fire folks for being gay.
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They were not discriminated against for being Christian per se. Rather, the were discriminated against for being Christian and expressing themselves in a way that might alienate an audience.

But yes, I see your irony. Had the two men been gays who expressed themselves on one occasion in a way that might, possibly alienate a conservative audience, the left would make them martyrs.
 
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Slyhunter said:
They are being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs. If HGTV can cancel them for being christians then others can fire folks for being gay.
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I don't know its obvious their religious faith is ****ed up being gay seems to be nether good or bad

I can believe god told me you torture puppy's but if I go around acting like that's true just because I want to believe it im a horrible person
 
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Cryptic said:
There are different kinds of conservatives. Some right wing libertarians support gay marriage, and may even support plural marriage.
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Conservative means you want to conserve something. The root word in the word conservative is conserve. I don't support any marriage but my own, that is enough. I wish to conserve the public for the people so I don't oppose other forms of marriage.

As for myself, there is a social component to what is, or is not "a marriage". A society via the State does not need to recognize gay marriages, or heterosexual marriages for that matter. That same state however, may choose to recognize one form or the other, or both.

In short, I view SSM as a states rights issue.
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You are a statist liberal than. If you don't believe in conserving anything than you can't be conservative. Marriage isn't a state right. States can't forbid marriage based on the, religion, race, culture, or national origin of people. They list that right because they couldn't behave. Many states are losing the right to discriminate against sex in marriage because they are standing in the way of constitutional freedoms. They aren't behaving themselves, they are becoming despotic and dictatorial so the people must trump the state. That is the constitutional republic concept.
 
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Bob Blaylock said:
The word “gender”, as it is now often misapplied to human beings, is a construct of political correctness. The proper term is “sex”. Humans, like nearly all other animals, come in two sexes (not genders)—male and female. “Gender” is a term used by those who wish to disregard the essential and critical differences between the sexes, to treat them as interchangeable, and even to uphold the idea that someone who is undeniably of one sex can “identify” as the opposite “gender”, and demand to be treated accordingly.

Marriage is a specific kind of union between two humans of the opposite sex (not gender). That is what marriage is, that is what marriage has always been, and that is what marriage will always be. Anyone who claims otherwise is only playing the same dishonest game that goes along with the misuse of the word “gender” in other contexts.
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So, you're going with semantics, then. Ok. Replace the word "gender" in my post with "sex."

Your argument is now satisfied. So do you now agree that same-sex marriage bans are unconstitutional, or was this post of yours just completely useless?
 
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Slyhunter said:
They are being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs. If HGTV can cancel them for being christians then others can fire folks for being gay.
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No, a business decision is being made. HGTV has like eight shows of the same nature that don't have actors who do things that might hurt the company image. When advertisers start to avoid your show, it costs the network money. People who think this decision or the Duck Dynasty situation were about anything other than money are foolish.
 
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Let me get this straight. Two gay looking guys who have a show on Homo $ Gay TV are surprised that their show got cancelled after they bashed gays. Really?
 
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