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Provocative French Short Film Examines Sexism via Gender Role Reversal

To be fair here, unless a person is obese, belly fat is the same thing.

It is loose fat on top of muscle, which just so happens to sway back and forth while running. I didn't like it.

The breasts don't really have "muscles" in the first place. They have ligaments, which can't really be "exercised," and aren't even widely believed to be connected to sagging at all.

Cooper's Ligaments

Wearing a bra or not wearing a bra seems to be more or less irrelevant either way.

All I was saying is that I could see why most women would prefer bras for support, especially when doing moderate to high impact aerobic exercises.

It's basically the same principle as wearing shoes.

Are they necessary? Probably not.

However, they can still help in some regards. :shrug:

Nope, but behind and to the sides do, and they can get weaker as well. While this doesn't impact shape, it does impact height. The ligaments being undeveloped actually is what can cause pain (as can lymph restriction due to poor fit or simply some women's rib shape no matter what bra they wear).

Your belly isn't designed to be carrying that. Boobs are. I'm telling ya, man, I have them, and I've had them at lots of different sizes. It doesn't hurt.

I am always willing to grant useful purposes of silly social mandates. After all, it isn't the object's fault it is subjected to silly mandates. But the bra is uniquely useless. Really, its only potential use beyond cosmetics is protecting recent surgery. It is terrible for anatomical support. Probably the worst thing you could possibly do. It's using your thoracic outlet as the support structure. That's insane.

Now, people should wear what pleases them, but they should not have it sold to them by misguided wives tales.
 
Nope, but behind and to the sides do, and they can get weaker as well. While this doesn't impact shape, it does impact height. The ligaments being undeveloped actually is what can cause pain (as can lymph restriction due to poor fit or simply some women's rib shape no matter what bra they wear).

Your belly isn't designed to be carrying that. Boobs are. I'm telling ya, man, I have them, and I've had them at lots of different sizes. It doesn't hurt.

I am always willing to grant useful purposes of silly social mandates. After all, it isn't the object's fault it is subjected to silly mandates. But the bra is uniquely useless. Really, its only potential use beyond cosmetics is protecting recent surgery. It is terrible for anatomical support. Probably the worst thing you could possibly do. It's using your thoracic outlet as the support structure. That's insane.

First off, most of the "pain" caused by bras comes from getting one in the wrong size. Secondly, a lot of women, and particularly older women and those who are "better endowed" than others, apparently disagree with your analysis. :shrug:

As I said before, all of the arguments you've made here could be just as easily applied to shoes.

If you didn't wear them, your feet would simply toughen up. As such, they can't really be said to be "necessary" in most environments.

They can also cause discomfort and joint misalignment if they don't fit correctly, and numerous other problems that wouldn't exist if human beings simply went without them.

People still wear them anyway regardless, and in some cases, they can even be an advantage.
 
First off, most of the "pain" caused by bras comes from getting one in the wrong size. Secondly, a lot of women, and particularly older women and those who are "better endowed" than others, apparently disagree with your analysis. :shrug:

As I said before, all of the arguments you've made here could be just as easily applied to shoes.

If you didn't wear them, your feet would simply toughen up. As such, they can't really be said to be "necessary" in most environments.

They can also cause discomfort and joint misalignment if they don't fit correctly, and numerous other problems that wouldn't exist if human beings simply went without them.

People still wear them anyway regardless, and in some cases, they can even be an advantage.

Isn't that what I said? Although for women with boobs that go to the edges of their ribs, even the correct size may cause this, if we're discussing bras with wire.

Yes, if you run without a bra after wearing them for 40 years, it will probably hurt. But that doesn't mean running is inherently painful for women. That most likely means the bra has created its own problem to fix, which is atrophy of the structures in and around your breasts through constant immobilization over decades.

Bras are not a neutral. And that's perfectly fine. I wear and do all kinds of stuff that isn't a neutral. It just drive me crazy when people perpetuate bad information.
 
Isn't that what I said? Although for women with boobs that go to the edges of their ribs, even the correct size may cause this, if we're discussing bras with wire.

Yes, if you run without a bra after wearing them for 40 years, it will probably hurt. But that doesn't mean running is inherently painful for women. That most likely means the bra has created its own problem to fix, which is atrophy of the structures in and around your breasts through constant immobilization over decades.

Bras are not a neutral. And that's perfectly fine. I wear and do all kinds of stuff that isn't a neutral. It just drive me crazy when people perpetuate bad information.

Again, I would point out that there are even young women who complain of the activity being uncomfortable (my mother, for instance, always told me that she hated to run without a bra, and she was never particularly well endowed in this regard before she had children).

There legitimately are some women out there who prefer the feel of running in a sports bra to running au natural.
 
Again, I would point out that there are even young women who complain of the activity being uncomfortable (my mother, for instance, always told me that she hated to run without a bra, and she was never particularly well endowed in this regard before she had children).

There legitimately are some women out there who prefer the feel of running in a sports bra to running au natural.

Yeah, but even a woman my age has probably been wearing them for 15 years, keep in mind. Same issue.

I know they prefer it. The issue is what is causing their pain. You seem to believe women just aren't built for any kind of activity more robust than a slow hobble.
 
I got the point well enough. Honestly, however; the thing that kept throwing me off about it is that most men wouldn't put up with the kind of treatment the video portrays in the first place. It's really not in our temperament.

While this arguably doesn't really matter to the point the video was trying to make, it does make things more than a little bit disconcerting. The men in the video simply do not behave like men.

Beyond even that, the stereotypical behaviors it eludes to really are not all that common anymore in the first place.

I think all of that strongly depends on where you live.
 
Yeah, but even a woman my age has probably been wearing them for 15 years, keep in mind. Same issue.

I know they prefer it. The issue is what is causing their pain. You seem to believe women just aren't built for any kind of activity more robust than a slow hobble.

To be fair here, it's not exactly like distance running for the Hell of it is a particularly "natural" activity in the first place. :lol:

It's really neither here nor there if women happen to have certain physical structures which make the activity more uncomfortable than it would be for a man. It's hardly like it overtly prevents them from doing the exercise in question, after all.
 
To be fair here, it's not exactly like distance running for the Hell of it is a particularly "natural" activity in the first place. :lol:

It's really neither here nor there if women happen to have certain physical structures which make the activity more uncomfortable than it would be for a man. It's hardly like it overly prevents them from doing the exercise in question, after all.

Are you kidding me? :lol:

Humans are the most gifted endurance runners on earth. We can run virtually any other animal literally to death.

Humans are BUILT to run from top to bottom. That's why we sweat from every inch of our bodies. That's one of the great strengths of being bipedal, and thus requiring less energy to move.

Women can run just fine. In fact, while we are slower, we're more efficient in some ways. Boobs should not hurt when a woman runs.

And like I said, if your chest is properly developed, they don't. I'm telling you, dude. I have boobs. I have run with them before.
 
This sort of anti-male feminist nonsense is all part of the Liberal re-definition of men.

Men have to be shown as ugly, evil creatures before widespread pussification and female dominance, with the demanded attendant male subservience, guilt and endless apology can truly be institutionalized.

It would be difficult for a good man to spend any time around any woman who were to say "This is you, this is how you treat us."
 
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Are you kidding me? :lol:

Humans are the most gifted endurance runners on earth. We can run virtually any other animal literally to death.

Humans are BUILT to run from top to bottom. That's why we sweat from every inch of our bodies. That's one of the great strengths of being bipedal, and thus requiring less energy to move.

We're endurance walkers, more than runners, to be honest. It just happens to be the case that the one comes in extremely handy when it comes to the other.

Animals like the Ostrich are "built from the ground up" to run.

Women can run just fine. In fact, while we are slower, we're more efficient in some ways. Boobs should not hurt when a woman runs.

And like I said, if your chest is properly developed, they don't. I'm telling you, dude. I have boobs. I have run with them before.

Again, for a lot of women, they are uncomfortable, even if they do not explicitly "hurt."

I find it hard to believe that bras alone are responsible for that.
 
Anything to claim the right to a "victim status" these days.
 
We're endurance walkers, more than runners, to be honest. It just happens to be the case that the one comes in extremely handy when it comes to the other.

Animals like the Ostrich are "built from the ground up" to run.

Again, for a lot of women, they are uncomfortable, even if they do not explicitly "hurt."

I find it hard to believe that bras alone are responsible for that.

Nope. Runners. We're not fast, but we run. If we were built to walk, we wouldn't need that gigantic ass. Walking doesn't do much for the butt -- only running and squats. That ass is expensive. We wouldn't have it if we didn't need it.

That's how we used to hunt. Start with a sprint so we don't lose them, and then jog for a couple hours or more until they pass out. Then walk, and stab them with something. That's human hunting 101.

Not in all cases. In some cases, weight is to blame. Keep in mind, the average cup size of a normal weight woman is a (standard) B, but most women are overweight these days. But you'd be shocked how often it's a case of an underdeveloped chest.
 
Nope. Runners. We're not fast, but we run. If we were built to walk, we wouldn't need that gigantic ass. Walking doesn't do much for the butt -- only running and squats. That ass is expensive. We wouldn't have it if we didn't need it.

That's how we used to hunt. Start with a sprint so we don't lose them, and then jog for a couple hours or more until they pass out. Then walk, and stab them with something. That's human hunting 101.

The butt comes in handy as a fat reserve either way regardless. Furthermore, while I certainly don't deny that bouts of running would've been involved in early human hunting (at the beginning of a hunt and the end, most likely), it really doesn't mean that early hunters necessarily would've run, or even jogged, the whole distance.

Did Humans Evolve to Be Long-Distance Runners? No

You could wound an animal during the initial confrontation, and then simply track behind it at a walking pace while waiting for it to tire or bleed out. After that had occurred, you could eventually move in for the kill at your leisure.

If we were truly "natural" distance runners, it wouldn't require such intensive training for modern humans to become good at the activity. After all, it's not even like the average contemporary hunter-gatherer could ace a marathon, or even a half or quarter marathon, without prior preparation.

It's also worth pointing out that, even if your premise were correct, the hunts to which you refer would have been conducted almost exclusively by men anyway.

Just sayin'. :lol:

Not in all cases. In some cases, weight is to blame. Keep in mind, the average cup size of a normal weight woman is a (standard) B, but most women are overweight these days. But you'd be shocked how often it's a case of an underdeveloped chest.

Perhaps, but the fact of the matter remains that breasts really aren't "built for speed," so to speak.

The more sexually desirable a woman happens to be in terms of secondary sexual characteristics, the less likely she is to be comfortable running as well. The behavior really doesn't appear to be especially high on nature's priority list for women in any eventuality.
 
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For those who didn't give two ****s: it's the events that led up to and after a person was raped, including the negative backlash that some victims receive when they're blamed for being sexually assaulted. They shot it all with role reversal: women portraying men, men portraying women.

I'd say it's pretty accurate in comparison to what I've experienced in my life. The role reversal draws attention to it, because if it was a woman being a woman and men being men then no one would think anything of it because it would just be ROUTINE.

And the guys don't like it? LOL - That's funny. I wonder why. Did it make guys look like assholes? Well - many are. I'm not surprised that the guys would only comment on the breasts and dismiss the actual point (which is just proving the point that the skit presents, really).

*Sarcastic clap*

I'm sure a few guys from the board will step up and be serious with their responses and not playing the part of a haughty teen.

When your husband was deployed, did you cheat on him regularly with a wide variety of other men?



....If the answer to that question is no, and if you know plenty of women who also did not do so.... then if I were to make a movie depicting the life of servicemembers, and every single military wife cheated on her servicemember when they were deployed, took all their money and spent it on their boyfriends and living large, told him the kids he'd been raising weren't even his, and then left him....

...would you look at that movie and say "yeah, that looks like an accurate portrayal of how us spouses of military personnel act"? Or would you, perhaps, think to yourself - "that's crap, they are taking the abuses of the worst of us and depicting it as a universal experience." ?

If this movie intended to have a point, it failed when it decided to exaggerate that point into farce.
 
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Talking about the dude's ass. Seems like the director was tacitly admitting that if this were a straight up film about a woman getting assaulted, the victim would be sexualised by a director with shots like that.

I may be reading too much into it...
Maybe.
 
Probably. Judging from what I've seen on the National Geographic channel, however; I do think tNuffhat a certain degree of "wear and tear" would probably be inevitable.



Awww, I thought you weren't talking to me anymore? :lol:

Studies which blatantly show that men are more prone to aggressive behavior, less prone to emotional behavior, and generally rely upon the analytical sides of their brains more than women, do not prove that men are generally more aggressive than women, less emotional, and more prone to look upon the world in strictly analytical ways which fall in line with the archetype of "masculine" behavior?

You sure about that? Lol



And what proof, or Hell, even evidence, have you presented, Clax? :roll:



A) You didn't answer my question. Provide evidence to support your claim that Matriarchy exists immediately or concede the point.

B) I dare you to provide a single instance of me ever saying that culture "doesn't exist."



I didn't say a damn thing about anyone being "superior."

I said that gender roles tended to be more or less constant across cultural lines, even in societies in where women hold social power greater or equal power to that of men.



Undoubtedly. However, men are always going to be men, and women and always going to be women regardless of any concept of "culture." They always have been and always will be.

Again, these things are well nigh universal, even in "cultures" which are not as strictly "patriarchal" as our own.



In other words, "I'm right because I say so, and NANANANANANANANANA I can't heaaaaaaarrrr youuuu!!! "



And if you'd actually read the sources I'd posted, you'd realize that men have women beat in this regard as well.

Do men and women feel pain differently?



Scientific facts aren't going to go away simply because you happen to dislike them, Clax.



We're talking about reality here, Clax, not that screaming bag of hyperactive wet cats you seem to call an imagination. :roll:



I'm quaking in my boots, I'm sure.

It's kind of hard to be intimidated by someone you could flip over your shoulder and casually stroll away with. As a matter of fact, I've done so with particularly feisty women on more than a few occasions.



No, they have roughly equal lower body strength to a man, on a pound per pound basis. It doesn't change the fact that they tend to have a lot fewer pounds to throw around than most men in the first place.

Lower body strength is also not as important to the matter we were discussing here (i.e. domestic violence and rape) as upper body strength.



I'm sure they can overpower you easily enough.



Clearly, she shouldn't have done that.

Gath you didn't understand the film. Most of what you posted is irrelevant. And getting off topic in one of your obsessive rants isn't really productive.

We all know that is not how reality is, it was a hypothetical ment to illustrate to people that there is a division.

You are so confused with your gender identity crisis you started ranting and raving about it not being realistic. It's purpose wasn't to be realistic.
 
Talking about the dude's ass. Seems like the director was tacitly admitting that if this were a straight up film about a woman getting assaulted, the victim would be sexualised by a director with shots like that.

I may be reading too much into it...

Nah, I picked up on that too.
 
When your husband was deployed, did you cheat on him regularly with a wide variety of other men?



....If the answer to that question is no, and if you know plenty of women who also did not do so.... then if I were to make a movie depicting the life of servicemembers, and every single military wife cheated on her servicemember when they were deployed, took all their money and spent it on their boyfriends and living large, told him the kids he'd been raising weren't even his, and then left him....

...would you look at that movie and say "yeah, that looks like an accurate portrayal of how us spouses of military personnel act"? Or would you, perhaps, think to yourself - "that's crap, they are taking the abuses of the worst of us and depicting it as a universal experience." ?

If this movie intended to have a point, it failed when it decided to exaggerate that point into farce.

You're trying to make a point and it's not working *because* I'm not trying to argue that 'it's an accurate representation of what every woman experiences - or how every man behaves'

. . . It's truthful for some people. There's really no debating that because even you would say 'yes, some people have behaved that way'

So - again: it's truthful for some people.
 
The butt comes in handy as a fat reserve either way regardless. Furthermore, while I certainly don't deny that bouts of running would've been involved in early human hunting (at the beginning of a hunt and the end, most likely), it really doesn't mean that early hunters necessarily would've run, or even jogged, the whole distance.

Did Humans Evolve to Be Long-Distance Runners? No

You could wound an animal during the initial confrontation, and then simply track behind it at a walking pace while waiting for it to tire or bleed out. After that had occurred, you could eventually move in for the kill at your leisure.

If we were truly "natural" distance runners, it wouldn't require such intensive training for modern humans to become good at the activity. After all, it's not even like the average contemporary hunter-gatherer could ace a marathon, or even a half or quarter marathon, without prior preparation.

It's also worth pointing out that, even if your premise were correct, the hunts to which you refer would have been conducted almost exclusively by men anyway.

Just sayin'. :lol:

You haven't really provided consensus refutation -- just dissent. And I'd argue he's taking it too literally. Nothing really evolves FOR anything, in such a literal sense. Things just pile up until the critter gets good enough at something that it does it more often, and then it develops more stuff that help it do that, because that stuff helps it survive.

Humans are some of the best endurance runners on earth. :shrug: I wouldn't necessarily dispute that wasn't on purpose. It's more likely we became bipedal for other reasons. But it's also a pretty good bet, given our lineage, that endurance running was a long time coming.

They do jog most of that distance. We've actually gone to these tribes, watched them do it, and recorded it. They don't really stop until the animal is dazed.

It doesn't require intensive training. It just requires us to not be in an environment where we sit on our ass all day. :lol: I mean, those people don't even sit -- at least not in the sense we do. Most humans were fit enough to do it, and humans who still exist in those tribes still are.

My cat isn't as strong as an intact feral, but it's not because the idea that ferals are strong is a myth. It's because she's a housecat.

The hunts I'm referring to were usually done by men, simply because hunting is often used as display, but researchers who've followed these tribes have seen women do it as well, and they're just as good. In fact, sometimes they're better if there are no men in the party, strictly because there's no competition between them and thus no sabotage.

Perhaps, but the fact of the matter remains that breasts really aren't "built for speed," so to speak.

The more sexually desirable a woman happens to be in terms of secondary sexual characteristics, the less likely she is to be comfortable running as well. The behavior really doesn't appear to be especially high on nature's priority list for women in any eventuality.

Neither are testicles. Or our gigantic heads, for that matter. What's your point?

Actually it's not really about the body parts themselves. What draws the eyes the most is ratios -- hips, waist, breasts, in proportion to each other. You can have a slim woman who has an attractive ratio, and in fact, pretty much all young tribal women are slim, and extremely lean.

But besides that, human selection is so heavily augmented by other things -- like skill sets and emotions -- that in real terms, we select more for brains than we do for bodies.
 
You're trying to make a point and it's not working *because* I'm not trying to argue that 'it's an accurate representation of what every woman experiences - or how every man behaves'

. . . It's truthful for some people. There's really no debating that because even you would say 'yes, some people have behaved that way'

So - again: it's truthful for some people.

:shrug: fine. It's equally truthful that some women do awful things to men. In which case this movie is pointless.


However, it's worth noting that that movie does not depict awful behavior as something that "sometimes" happens, but rather as a universal. Every woman the man runs into treats him badly - Every Single One.

It's not unlike Graffias' post here, in that regard.
 
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Gath you didn't understand the film. Most of what you posted is irrelevant. And getting off topic in one of your obsessive rants isn't really productive.

We all know that is not how reality is, it was a hypothetical ment to illustrate to people that there is a division.

To the contrary, I understood it just fine.

I was simply pointing out that it was a somewhat flawed product because it didn't account for fundamental differences in behavior which can be observed to exist between the sexes, and it went out of its way to give the impression that the hostile attitudes it depicted were a lot more common than they actually are in reality.

I also fully acknowledged that this fact did not change the message the film was going for in an earlier post.

You are so confused with your gender identity crisis you started ranting and raving about it not being realistic.

Acknowledging the existence of masculinity and femininity as abstract biological, as well as cultural, concepts is indicative of a "gender identity crisis" how, exactly? :roll:

In reality, the exact opposite would actually seem to be the case. I am quite comfortable with my "identity." Comfortable enough, as a mater of fact, that I see no reason to question it simply because certain politically motivated persons might happen to find its implications for their own ideological values disturbing.

Humans are some of the best endurance runners on earth. :shrug: I wouldn't necessarily dispute that wasn't on purpose. It's more likely we became bipedal for other reasons. But it's also a pretty good bet, given our lineage, that endurance running was a long time coming.

I certainly don't intend on trying to dispute that. I was simply saying that the fact that human beings might be suited to endurance running, doesn't mean that going out and running miles on a daily basis is necessarily something the human body was meant to do.

It actually tends to cause a good bit of damage to a person's joints, and even their heart, over extended time scales.

Common sense (and simple physics) would also seem to indicate that the mechanics of distance running might be an issue for a person who happens to have loose hanging bags of fat dangling off of the front of their torso as well. At the very least, the excess movement is going to make a person expend more energy by throwing off their center of balance. At worst, it might damage the ligaments holding the breasts up in the first place.

Many sports doctors apparently seem to agree.

Running with breasts, a weighty issue

Breasts And Jogging

They do jog most of that distance. We've actually gone to these tribes, watched them do it, and recorded it. They don't really stop until the animal is dazed.

It doesn't require intensive training. It just requires us to not be in an environment where we sit on our ass all day. :lol: I mean, those people don't even sit -- at least not in the sense we do. Most humans were fit enough to do it, and humans who still exist in those tribes still are.

I would have to see some sources on the exact amount of time and distance spent walking vs jogging to make any concrete judgments here. I could see something like that happening every now and then, but it sounds like it would probably be too risky and energy expensive to be worthwhile as a regular activity.

Dehydration is no joke, after all, and neither is sun stroke. Spending the whole day chasing after something in the heat of the day only to wind up not catching it in the end (which has to happen at least some of the time) would likely leave such a group of hunter-gatherers in rather dire straights as well.

I fully admit that the more "feral" varieties of homo sapiens out there very likely are a bit tougher than we civilized types. However, at the end of the day, they are still only human.

The hunts I'm referring to were usually done by men, simply because hunting is often used as display, but researchers who've followed these tribes have seen women do it as well, and they're just as good. In fact, sometimes they're better if there are no men in the party, strictly because there's no competition between them and thus no sabotage.

Again, I would have to see some sources on this.

Neither are testicles. Or our gigantic heads, for that matter. What's your point?

Testicles generally ascend up into the body during strenuous exercise.

Actually it's not really about the body parts themselves. What draws the eyes the most is ratios -- hips, waist, breasts, in proportion to each other. You can have a slim woman who has an attractive ratio, and in fact, pretty much all young tribal women are slim, and extremely lean.

But besides that, human selection is so heavily augmented by other things -- like skill sets and emotions -- that in real terms, we select more for brains than we do for bodies.

Perhaps. However, it's still kind of hard to deny that a lot of female secondary sexual characteristics aren't exactly geared towards making women particularly athletic.

This is most readily apparent in human groups where sexual dimorphism seems to have gone into overdrive, such as the Khoisan peoples of Southern Africa.

This would actually appear to be the direction human evolution in general is headed as well, if recent studies are any indication.

Meet future woman: shorter, plumper, more fertile
 
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To the contrary, I understood it just fine.
You went on a tangent about something that really isn't relevant.
I was simply pointing out that it was a somewhat flawed product because it didn't account for fundamental differences in behavior which can be observed to exist between the sexes, and it went out of its way to give the impression that the hostile attitudes it depicted were a lot more common than they actually are in reality.
Exactly what I said. You clearly missed the hypothetical because you had to rant and rave about your gender identity crisis.
I also fully acknowledged that this fact did not change the message the film was going for in an earlier post.
Yet you ranted and raved about it any way.


Acknowledging the existence of masculinity and femininity as abstract biological, as well as cultural, concepts is indicative of a "gender identity crisis" how, exactly? :roll:
No, completely ignoring the hypothetical and ranting about something that isn't really relevant over men being cast in a hypothetical subservient role likely because it threatens your masculinity is a gender identity crisis.
In reality, the exact opposite would actually seem to be the case. I am quite comfortable with my "identity."
Who are you trying to convince?
Comfortable enough, as a mater of fact, that I see no reason to question it simply because certain politically motivated persons might happen to find its implications for their own ideological values disturbing.
Lie to yourself all you want. Get your box ready.
 
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You went on a tangent about something that really isn't relevant.
Exactly what I said. You clearly missed the hypothetical because you had to rant and rave about your gender identity crisis.
Yet you ranted and raved about it any way.

If you say so, Clax. If you say so.

It's not worth bickering over with a man who would clearly rather chase shadows on a wall rather than face the realities of the world around him.

No, completely ignoring the hypothetical and ranting about something that isn't really relevant over men being cast in a hypothetical subservient role likely because it threatens your masculinity is a gender identity crisis.

Because freezing like a frightened deer in headlights and casually allowing one's self to be surrounded by a group of women a third one's size while making no attempt whatsoever to fight back or run away is completely in line with typical male behavior, right? :roll:

Who are you trying to convince?

Ummm... No one? :lol:

You're the guy who started throwing overly-emotional hissy fits, talking trash, and making up wild nonsense about 140 lb women beating up male body builders simply because I dared to suggest that I was not physically intimidated by women here, not me.

Who exactly are you trying to convince, huh?
 
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Obviously an absurdly bad day in the life of any woman, but I suppose that's the point. Made me feel distinctly uncomfortable.



Edit: Just remembered there are breasts in the video so can mods to whatever necessary to this thread?


Yowza. The video was actually making some sort of point?
 
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