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Indiana High Schoolers Push to Ban Gay Classmates from ‘Traditional’ Prom

Omgitsme said:
Sooo can you provide a link where a Christian couple was denied entry to prom or not?
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Maybe we should preface our request to state a link that isn't a chain email or citing a heavily biased blog.
 
Wayno said:
Sooooo since I never made that claim, you did, do you have a point?
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Digsbe said:

And? Just because discrimination exists doesn't make it right.

What if the school went all insane with the "keep God out of schools" campaign and decided that no Christian couples could attend the prom? Should they just take it as an opportunity to face "adversity" and say it's ok because discrimination exists?

The people that need to learn in a constructive manner are those that want to ban homosexual teens, not the homosexual teens themselves.

And you said:

They've pretty much already done that.......

So what exactly were you trying to claim there?
 
Omgitsme said:
Digsbe said:

And? Just because discrimination exists doesn't make it right.

What if the school went all insane with the "keep God out of schools" campaign and decided that no Christian couples could attend the prom? Should they just take it as an opportunity to face "adversity" and say it's ok because discrimination exists?

The people that need to learn in a constructive manner are those that want to ban homosexual teens, not the homosexual teens themselves.

And you said:

They've pretty much already done that.......

So what exactly were you trying to claim there?
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There is a constant effort to kick faith, faith based groups, and people's expressions of their faith out of the public schools.

I don't see people saying "the schools have no right to restrict people's right to practice their religion in school facilities after school."

Or, "the schools have no right to ban people from reading the bible in school."

Do you?
 
Wayno said:
There is a constant effort to kick faith, faith based groups, and people's expressions of their faith out of the public schools.

I don't see people saying "the schools have no right to restrict people's right to practice their religion in school facilities after school."

Or, "the schools have no right to ban people from reading the bible in school."

Do you?
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I gave a scenario where I asked if it was correct (and you never really commented on my question) to ban Christian couples from schools in an effort to keep God out of schools.

You said this has already happened.

Me and Omgitsme asked you to back that up. Now I think you're trying to change what you were asked to address.
 
Wayno said:
There is a constant effort to kick faith, faith based groups, and people's expressions of their faith out of the public schools.

I don't see people saying "the schools have no right to restrict people's right to practice their religion in school facilities after school."

Or, "the schools have no right to ban people from reading the bible in school."

Do you?
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Can you give examples?

Edit: Because I have only seen efforts to stop the school from sponsoring religion which is not wrong. Stopping an individual from expressing their faith in school is wrong and I cant remember a legitimate example of that happening.
 
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Peter King said:
Nerds, fatties, glass wearing, retainer wearing, poor, hispanic, scientology, jewish, muslim, socialists and communists must also be banned. Only jocks, cheerleaders, popular and Christians need apply for attending this prom.
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What a complete load of crap. The story has nothing to do with nerds, fatties, etc. You're just making that up.

Hey Peter King, when was the last time you beat your wife? See how that works?
 
digsbe said:
I gave a scenario where I asked if it was correct (and you never really commented on my question) to ban Christian couples from schools in an effort to keep God out of schools.

You said this has already happened.

Me and Omgitsme asked you to back that up. Now I think you're trying to change what you were asked to address.
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Actually, I'm not.

You have to excuse me if in trying to answer 8 or 9 quotes at a time, I sometimes fail to address things in a way you think is correct or timely.

I don't know how you'd IDENTIFY a "Christian Couple," except if they wore a shirt that said something like "Jesus died for your sins."

And yes, wearing something like that will get you in trouble in many schools.

A Missouri student gets in trouble for wearing a religious ...

Student Suspended For Wearing Jesus Shirt » Jason Berggren
 
Peter Grimm said:
So it's OK for the lefties to push prayer out of school, but it's not OK for good people in rural Indiana to have traditional values? GTFOH.
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Students can pray in school, just not in a manner officiated by the school in any way. Want to set up a Christian club in high school? Go right ahead. What schools can't do is mandate such a thing, or set aside time for it. Similarly, no school is setting aside gay time, or mandating participation in a gay club (or whatever). This thread is about the prom. That's a different issue. They cannot prevent students from attending their own public high school dance for discriminatory reasons. Have you ever - and I do mean ever - heard of a high school prom that prevented Christians from attending? No? Then STFU.
 
Aderleth said:
Students can pray in school, just not in a manner officiated by the school in any way. Want to set up a Christian club in high school? Go right ahead. What schools can't do is mandate such a thing, or set aside time for it. Similarly, no school is setting aside gay time, or mandating participation in a gay club (or whatever). This thread is about the prom. That's a different issue. They cannot prevent students from attending their own public high school dance for discriminatory reasons. Have you ever - and I do mean ever - heard of a high school prom that prevented Christians from attending? No? Then STFU.
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I was under the impression that the proposed "straight-only" prom would be privately held.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I was under the impression that the proposed "straight-only" prom would be privately held.
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I was wondering the same thing. Because even if it's nominally private, if it's associated with the school, and given any kind of school-based imprimatur, it's still a problem.
 
Aderleth said:
I was wondering the same thing. Because even if it's nominally private, if it's associated with the school, and given any kind of school-based imprimatur, it's still a problem.
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It sounds like some of the teachers might support the private prom, but that doesn't entail that the school is responsible.
 
Aderleth said:
Students can pray in school, just not in a manner officiated by the school in any way. Want to set up a Christian club in high school? Go right ahead. What schools can't do is mandate such a thing, or set aside time for it. Similarly, no school is setting aside gay time, or mandating participation in a gay club (or whatever). This thread is about the prom. That's a different issue. They cannot prevent students from attending their own public high school dance for discriminatory reasons. Have you ever - and I do mean ever - heard of a high school prom that prevented Christians from attending? No? Then STFU.
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Schools discriminate all the time....

How many guys in the auto club are in the honors English class, too?
 
Wayno said:
Schools discriminate all the time....

How many guys in the auto club are in the honors English class, too?
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Is the autoclub allowed to deny honors English class students admittance ?.............?............(You must live in a strange part of the US).................
 
Bonzai said:
Is the autoclub allowed to deny honors English class students admittance ?.............?............(You must live in a strange part of the US).................
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No, but the Honors English class does discriminate against those with poor grades in English.....
 
Wayno said:
No, but the Honors English class does discriminate against those with poor grades in English.....
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Now you sound like a maoist........................
 
Bonzai said:
Now you sound like a maoist........................
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Not me........

'Cause if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao....

You ain't gonna' make it with anyone anyhow.......
 
That's shortsighted. Who do they think is going to make the fabulous decorations?
 
Wayno said:
Not me........

'Cause if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao....

You ain't gonna' make it with anyone anyhow.......
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It follows a personal theory of mine that, in order to defend discrimination by one group while falsely accusing another group of discrimination, you would have to resort to deconstruct the very meaning of the word...............
 
Wayno said:
Schools discriminate all the time....

How many guys in the auto club are in the honors English class, too?
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Do you seriously expect me to take that argument seriously? Tracking kids according to aptitude isn't discrimination.
 
Peter Grimm said:
What a complete load of crap. The story has nothing to do with nerds, fatties, etc. You're just making that up.

Hey Peter King, when was the last time you beat your wife? See how that works?
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what a ridiculous reply:roll:? Hey Peter Grim, ever heard of derisively mocking? See how that works?

Of course I am making that up, never heard of the concept of mockery? Of ridiculing? Of making fun of someone's position?

I did that (or at least gave a darned good try of it) to make my position clear that banning someone from proms for ridiculous reasons (like them being gay for example) is the ultimate level of stupidity IMHO.

I am fat, I am glass wearing, rather nerdy and a socialist in the eyes of most Americans (even though I think of myself as a social democrat) and was mocking the practice of ostracising people from a prom based on stupid reasons like their sexual preference.
 
I like the idea of a Prom for the gays and one for the straights...It might stop a lot of violence that way.
 
Navy Pride said:
I like the idea of a Prom for the gays and one for the straights...It might stop a lot of violence that way.
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Yes, because further separating people, and discriminating against a specific group really stops the violence!! :roll:
 
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