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Indiana High Schoolers Push to Ban Gay Classmates from ‘Traditional’ Prom

Wayno said:
I disagree.

Adversity builds strength..........

The gay students should organize, have their own statewide prom, and get someone like Elton John to play there in support of them.

The problem with the liberal mindset is they always want to coddle and "protect" folks, instead of letting them grow and experience what is, after all, sometimes a cold and cruel world.

How you DEAL with that reality isn't to run to the nearest equivalent you can find to a "Momma."

You deal with adversity by learning how to overcome it.....
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Then I guess giving civil rights for black people was a horrible idea aswell. The blacks had to overcomes adversity, it just made them stronger. Though I kind of expected it from Klandiana.
 
Fiddytree said:
I'm not much of a liberal. I am far more authoritarian and far less tolerant of such behavior.

Perhaps you could explain why it makes any sense to ask the administration to restrict access to a public building to homosexuals?
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Where did it say where the prom is being held?
 
Fiddytree said:
I'm not being dramatic. It's an important function of the school and as a result, part of cornerstone to civil liberty legislation for the past century. These matters have consequences, regardless. Then consider the students who have to live with that episode and how it divides them. It's immensely consequential from a legal standpoint, an administrative standpoint, a community standpoint, and an individual standpoint.
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Then cancel the prom and expel any student who voluntarily associates outside the 4 walls of the school without at least 1 gay person present at all time.
 
0bserver92 said:
Then I guess giving civil rights for black people was a horrible idea aswell. The blacks had to overcomes adversity, it just made them stronger. Though I kind of expected it from Klandiana.
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I wouldn't know.

I usually vote Republican.

Our party never hung folks from trees............
 
Wayno said:
I disagree.

Adversity builds strength..........

The gay students should organize, have their own statewide prom, and get someone like Elton John to play there in support of them.

The problem with the liberal mindset is they always want to coddle and "protect" folks, instead of letting them grow and experience what is, after all, sometimes a cold and cruel world.

How you DEAL with that reality isn't to run to the nearest equivalent you can find to a "Momma."

You deal with adversity by learning how to overcome it.....
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No, they shouldn't have to organize to be able to go to their own prom because they are homosexuals. It's wrong that they have to face this kind of adversity in the first place.

It's not about protecting folks, it's about not unfairly banning people over their sexual orientation. A gay couple has every right to be at a prom that a straight couple does.
 
Wayno said:
I wouldn't know.

I usually vote Republican.

Our party never hung folks from trees............
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Then the parties flipped, I am also neither. That doesn't change the fact that you clearly support discrimination.
 
Wayno said:
Where did it say where the prom is being held?
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I was indeed mistaken. It is a separate prom entirely. Some of what I said still applies, other portions of it do not.
 
Wayno said:
I disagree.

Adversity builds strength..........

The gay students should organize, have their own statewide prom, and get someone like Elton John to play there in support of them.

The problem with the liberal mindset is they always want to coddle and "protect" folks, instead of letting them grow and experience what is, after all, sometimes a cold and cruel world.

How you DEAL with that reality isn't to run to the nearest equivalent you can find to a "Momma."

You deal with adversity by learning how to overcome it.....
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One overcomes, by fighting for inclusion, not running off to hide from hate as you have just suggested. Bravo to those who won't accept being shamed into holding a separate function.
 
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digsbe said:
No, they shouldn't have to organize to be able to go to their own prom because they are homosexuals. It's wrong that they have to face this kind of adversity in the first place.

It's not about protecting folks, it's about not unfairly banning people over their sexual orientation. A gay couple has every right to be at a prom that a straight couple does.
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Discrimination exists.

All the laws in the world will never change that.

It's better people learn how to deal with it in a constructive manner.
 
If some of the students don't want to participate in a school-sponsored event that is open to all, they can hold their own private event at their own expense. I hope and expect few students would attend the bigot ball, but I don't know that town.
 
Wayno said:
Discrimination exists.

All the laws in the world will never change that.

It's better people learn how to deal with it in a constructive manner.
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And? Just because discrimination exists doesn't make it right.

What if the school went all insane with the "keep God out of schools" campaign and decided that no Christian couples could attend the prom? Should they just take it as an opportunity to face "adversity" and say it's ok because discrimination exists?

The people that need to learn in a constructive manner are those that want to ban homosexual teens, not the homosexual teens themselves.
 
Fisher said:
Then cancel the prom and expel any student who voluntarily associates outside the 4 walls of the school without at least 1 gay person present at all time.
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Canceling the prom gives the dissenters victory.
 
0bserver92 said:
Then the parties flipped, I am also neither. That doesn't change the fact that you clearly support discrimination.
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Really?

I'm not aware of Republicans passing laws about where people could sit, go to school, who they could date, and even where they could use a toilet......

And then, using the power of the state to stand on people's throats, or hang them with little regard, because they could get away with it as Democrats.

In fact, those same Democrats LYNCHED people for being Republicans....

The only thing that appears to have "flipped" is folks who seem to try and blame OTHER people because of their own parties vile and heinous actions....

Over 40% OF SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS voted AGAINST Obama in the primaries, and in West Virginia, 40% VOTED FOR A FELON IN A TEXAS JAIL.....

It appears racism IS INDEED alive and well in the Democrat Party.
 
digsbe said:
And? Just because discrimination exists doesn't make it right.

What if the school went all insane with the "keep God out of schools" campaign and decided that no Christian couples could attend the prom? Should they just take it as an opportunity to face "adversity" and say it's ok because discrimination exists?

The people that need to learn in a constructive manner are those that want to ban homosexual teens, not the homosexual teens themselves.
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They've pretty much already done that.......
 
Wayno said:
Really?

I'm not aware of Republicans passing laws about where people could sit, go to school, who they could date, and even where they could use a toilet......

And then, using the power of the state to stand on people's throats, or hang them with little regard, because they could get away with it as Democrats.

In fact, those same Democrats LYNCHED people for being Republicans....

The only thing that appears to have "flipped" is folks who seem to try and blame OTHER people because of their own parties vile and heinous actions....

Over 40% OF SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS voted AGAINST Obama in the primaries, and in West Virginia, 40% VOTED FOR A FELON IN A TEXAS JAIL.....

It appears racism IS INDEED alive and well in the Democrat Party.
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I believe that was an open therefore anyone, even Republicans can vote. There is no denying that those who were part of the the racist Democrats later became Republicans, and the liberal Republicans became Democrats.
 
Fiddytree said:
Canceling the prom gives the dissenters victory.
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So your idea of building community is to force people to accept your morality and not be free to act on theirs? Interesting use of rhetoric were your goals not so pedantic.
 
Hard Truth said:
If some of the students don't want to participate in a school-sponsored event that is open to all, they can hold their own private event at their own expense. I hope and expect few students would attend the bigot ball, but I don't know that town.
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I agree.

Like I said, the gay students can hold their own prom if they're not welcome.....
 
Fisher said:
So your idea of building community is to force people to accept your morality and not be free to act on theirs? Interesting use of rhetoric were your goals not so pedantic.
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When it becomes a crucial matter to the social stability of the school? Absolutely, we should not give credence to that dance. They can have it, but not without reminders that this school will not tolerate bigotry, especially from teachers.
 
Wayno said:
They've pretty much already done that.......
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No they haven't. Give me 1 example.

You also didn't address my question. Is such a scenario right? Should those students do as you have said and just see it as an opportunity to fight against adversity and accept that because allowing the equality is really forcing them to cry to "momma."
 
Wayno said:
They've pretty much already done that.......
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The **** are you talking about? Can you provide a link where a christian couple was ever denied entry to a prom?
 
0bserver92 said:
I believe that was an open therefore anyone, even Republicans can vote. There is no denying that those who were part of the the racist Democrats later became Republicans, and the liberal Republicans became Democrats.
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Like I said, if I belonged to what will forever be known as the most vile and racist party that has, OR THAT WILL EVER HAVE, existed in the United States, I'd want to deny reality, too.

But the TRUTH is, most of those bigots are dead now, or in old folks homes.

George Wallace ran as a segregationist in the Democrat Party AS LATE AS 1976, and WAS LEADING IN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARIES until he was shot......

And there are still Liberal Republicans like Olympia in the Party.....

It was PROGRESSIVES who fueled much of the racism, starting in the 1920's, and that's undeniable.

You know, folks like Justice Ginzberg, who believes abortion is "to get rid of groups we don't want too many of...."

Or the foul and vile racist Woodrow Wilson.....

I don't blame you and folks like you for trying to change the narrative, but like I said, when 40% of Democrat voters in the south won't vote for the incumbant President in the primaries, it's pretty obvious racism is still a strong force in the party, despite your attempts to deny it.
 
Omgitsme said:
The **** are you talking about? Can you provide a link where a christian couple was ever denied entry to a prom?
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I can provide plenty where they're restricted from freely practicing their religion in school, or at school athletic events, or where they're forbidden to hold bible reading clubs after school.

How are the gay student's liberties any more sacrosanct than the Christians?
 
Wayno said:
I can provide plenty where they're restricted from freely practicing their religion in school, or at school athletic events, or where they're forbidden to hold bible reading clubs after school.

How are the gay student's liberties any more sacrosanct than the Christians?
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Sooo can you provide a link where a Christian couple was denied entry to prom or not?
 
Omgitsme said:
Sooo can you provide a link where a Christian couple was denied entry to prom or not?
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Sooooo since I never made that claim, you did, do you have a point?
 
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