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Prepping For CoronaVirus Panic Buying

i picked up enough little dude Tylenol for the kiddo. also got a big bottle of Tylenol for us, and a couple other things, as well. saw some empty slots on the shelves, but we're not in the epicenter yet.
 
In spite of the pic, the craziest part of this so far is the TP shelves being cleared when the bug infects your lungs, not your gut!
 
Casper said:
You seem to forget that those that prep are ahead in that category, I can assure you I have more guns and ammo than you, and better trained.
Stock your own supplies and defend them, try to take and you become a low denominator that will learn one last final lesson
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Shooting people to protect food is a terrible and unethical concept. I am confident I have more firearms and bullets on this forum than anyone, but there is no circumstance where I would shoot people to protect food. Where we are there is an endless supply of food - hogs and fish. Even gators, snakes and birds. We also have 55 gallon drums of beans, rice and piles of other stuff - medical, bedding, clothing, cookware etc etc etc. Even some medical books and stuff for minor surgeries and stitches etc.

Back with the Avian flu scare we decided well will stock up (we can afford it) and enough to cover our family, all our employees and families and many more people for months and to some degree indefinitely as this is very fertile land and we have lots of veggie seeds of all kinds. The land and sea would provide meat protein.

Who are so challenges are urban dwellers, but hunkering down in an apartment complex would be extremely difficult for more than a short time.
 
PoS said:
You wanna panic, go ahead. I wont.

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Preparation and panic are not the same thing. You argument is the same that anti-gunners use why no one ever needs a firearm.

We do operate under hope for the best and plan for the worst in general. It's like having a gun. The odds you'll ever need one are very, very small. But if that were to happen, a person would trade everything they have for any gun. Same if a person has no food and is starving to death (or their children are). They would give everything they have for any food rather than watch their children die.

It could be as simple as people panic and buy out the stores for the panic, not a real danger. Then what is a person going to do? If there's nothing in the stores there's nothing in the stores. Everyone should have at least 2 weeks of food as a general rule. Simple canned goods, maybe some beans, dried noodles etc, sugar, would cover it. Cheap water filter would not be a bad idea either. $100 would cover a couple people for 2 weeks if buying at the discount store. A couple gallons of bleach in case you run out of toilet paper to wash hand towels.

DON'T FORGET PET FOOD for the pets. And, if it comes to it, for yourself. Starving people will eat anything. Dog and cat food is probably better than the junk food most people usually eat anyway. :lol:
 
joko104 said:
Preparation and panic are not the same thing. You argument is the same that anti-gunners use why no one ever needs a firearm.

We do operate under hope for the best and plan for the worst in general. It's like having a gun. The odds you'll ever need one are very, very small. But if that were to happen, a person would trade everything they have for any gun. Same if a person has no food and is starving to death (or their children are). They would give everything they have for any food rather than watch their children die.

It could be as simple as people panic and buy out the stores for the panic, not a real danger. Then what is a person going to do? If there's nothing in the stores there's nothing in the stores. Everyone should have at least 2 weeks of food as a general rule. Simple canned goods, maybe some beans, dried noodles etc, sugar, would cover it. Cheap water filter would not be a bad idea either. $100 would cover a couple people for 2 weeks if buying at the discount store. A couple gallons of bleach in case you run out of toilet paper to wash hand towels.

DON'T FORGET PET FOOD for the pets. And, if it comes to it, for yourself. Starving people will eat anything. Dog and cat food is probably better than the junk food most people usually eat anyway. :lol:
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Youre right... everyone should buy cartloads of toilet paper and dog food! :2wave:

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PoS said:
Youre right... everyone should buy cartloads of toilet paper and dog food! :2wave:

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It was a challenging mental exercise prepping for the Avian flu. It isn't just food of course, but what if 100% on our own - forever - with possibly thousands of people coming our way. Food is not the challenge - though many items for food needed beyond the limitless fish, clams and all the rest of the sea life in the thousand square miles of seagrass beds and mangrove islands - birth ground for the Gulf of Mexico, and all the wildlife (hogs, gators, snakes, coons, squirrels etc) of the hundreds of square miles of woodland swamps. The business (chemical aspect) has hundreds of stainless steel and plastic drums and the land here extremely fertile (seeds).

Other stuff - cups, plates, silverware etc. We have hundreds of guns, a million bullets (already had all that), hunting bows and who knows how many fishing poles.

The REAL challenge is shelter and isolation. How to set up quarantine zones and enforce them? Shelter in general, even makeshift tents. Lighting. Minor medical. Entertainment. How to organize people... For each challenge we worked out a solution - then stocked for it if necessary.

Some creative. For example, we certainly don't want to shoot panicking people, but what about people that were going to crash isolation (disease free) zones and structures)? For that, we bought a fair inventory of pepper balls for pepper ball guns. While we have a couple firing tazers (police 30 foot range), they'd run empty fast. We also bought a large inventory of 12 gauge bean bag shells etc.

It was a fun exercise, cost quite a bit of $$, but that also part of the challenge. Hitting 2nd hand stores for blankets, clothes etc. We also bought lots of decks of cards, games, cheap solar and crank flashlights etc. 55 gallon drum of hard candy (no peppermint) and lots of spices on and on and on and on. Gave a lot of thought to children. So bought lots of books and kids books, crayons etc. Then buy another 20 empty drums and another cargo container to drop back in the woods.

Drums and cargo containers of stuff. Probably never ever need any of it and absolutely hope we never do. Still, in such a crisis, we would be "our brother's keeper." At least we'd have food for everyone, no matter how many. 2 hunters could kill dozens of hogs in a day and 2 people fishing could bring in a ton or more of fish a day easily.
 
People who have experienced hunger and battled against starvation tend to be paranoid about food for obvious reason. Long, long ago the question of will I have anything to eat today was quite real. I would not have hesitated to eat dog food or anything. The first few months of first living independently ever penny I could earn was spend singularly on food. Since then, I've always had boxes of emergency food - always.
 
PoS said:
You wanna panic, go ahead. I wont.
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You've missed the point entirely. Not surprising either.

People in some areas of the world, and in some areas of the USofA are in fact panic buying.

What I'm asking is about being prepared for the panic buyers.

If panic buyers are depleting the shelves of toilet paper, shouldn't you perhaps go out and buy some toilet paper?
Assuming you don't already have at least a month's supply?
 
Dragonfly said:
You've missed the point entirely. Not surprising either.

People in some areas of the world, and in some areas of the USofA are in fact panic buying.

What I'm asking is about being prepared for the panic buyers.

If panic buyers are depleting the shelves of toilet paper, shouldn't you perhaps go out and buy some toilet paper?
Assuming you don't already have at least a month's supply?
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I work the medieval angle on this issue:

In days of old
when knights were bold
and paper not invented

they wiped their ass
on tufts of grass
and walked away contented
 
Dragonfly said:
You've missed the point entirely. Not surprising either.

People in some areas of the world, and in some areas of the USofA are in fact panic buying.

What I'm asking is about being prepared for the panic buyers.

If panic buyers are depleting the shelves of toilet paper, shouldn't you perhaps go out and buy some toilet paper?
Assuming you don't already have at least a month's supply?
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LOL how exactly is having a garage full of toilet paper going to help you against this virus?
 
PoS said:
LOL how exactly is having a garage full of toilet paper going to help you against this virus?
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It's not.

Which again, isn't even remotely the point of this thread.
 
Dragonfly said:
It's not.

Which again, isn't even remotely the point of this thread.
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If someone could invent "virtual" toilet paper to wipe away some of the crap posted on here, I'd be opening my crypto wallet right now to place a massive online order.

Cuz "massive" it would obviously have to be.
 
I think we have enough on hand to survive for a month. But I wouldn't mind getting hold of some dehydrated eggs and canned milk just in case. Also some zinc lozenges because I read they might help reduce the severity of the virus. Oh and onions, I need to get some onions...I read that the onions helps the shortness of breath associated with the virus. Other than that, I think we'll be fine.
 
What gets me is the whole TP and hand sanitizer hoarding.

First, TP has no role in preventing or spreading this virus.

Second, hand sanitizer isn't supposed to replace hand washing; you use it when you can't wash your hands, not the other way around.

I think that a big problem is that we are getting mixed messages from our president. The CDC, health professionals and the like are giving out the proper advice, but it is being undermined by a cheeto giving out bad advice. Since Trump is more worried about the stock market response to all of this, his message does not coincide with the health professionals.
So, people are doing stupid things.
 
Jason Warfield said:
What gets me is the whole TP and hand sanitizer hoarding.

First, TP has no role in preventing or spreading this virus.

Second, hand sanitizer isn't supposed to replace hand washing; you use it when you can't wash your hands, not the other way around.

I think that a big problem is that we are getting mixed messages from our president. The CDC, health professionals and the like are giving out the proper advice, but it is being undermined by a cheeto giving out bad advice. Since Trump is more worried about the stock market response to all of this, his message does not coincide with the health professionals.
So, people are doing stupid things.
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A nurse on Howard Stern made a great point.

Be careful of washing your hands too much. You'll dry your skin out. It'll crack.
Cracks in your skin allow open paths for things like germs and viruses to enter your system. Shocking isn't it?

Basic advice:

1) just live your life normally
2) resist touching/rubbing your face/eye/nose as best you can (stuff you should always do)
3) keep some distance (6 feet-ish) from anyone coughing/hacking/sneezing (stuff you should always do)
4) but most importantly, just live your life normally
 
With states declaring they are officially in a "State Of Emergency" now the runs on groceries are ramping up in the Mid-Atlantic region.

Two people I work with said that the crowds in the grocery stores last night were ginormous.
Like a major snow-storm was predicted to render all movement impossible for at least a week.

No shopping carts to be found.
Long lines at every register. All registers open.
Lots of empty spaces on the shelves for all kinds of foods and supplies.

The panic buying may in fact be setting in now along the East Coast of the USofA.
 
I feel the same animal urges we all feel when people start to panic buy.
I haven't yet engaged in any. I was at the store yesterday, and the clerk told me of a lot of stockpiling was going on, but I told him me buying 4 packs of taco seasoning doesn't count, he agreed.

I am reducing outings and people contact though.
 
Mach said:
I feel the same animal urges we all feel when people start to panic buy.
I haven't yet engaged in any. I was at the store yesterday, and the clerk told me of a lot of stockpiling was going on, but I told him me buying 4 packs of taco seasoning doesn't count, he agreed.

I am reducing outings and people contact though.
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Hopefully what happens is the panic buyers empty the shelves, then 48 hours later the shelves are fully stocked again and people realize there's no need to panic buy.
Might take a few rounds of that for it to sink in, but hopefully it sinks in.
 
Casper said:
I am already as prepared as I can be, this is just one reason some people already have supplies set aside just in case the system breaks down. Happens all the time at local levels and would be far worse at a National Level, having no plan is planning to fail.
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yep, I have a few months of food, etc on hand if I never left the house.
How can people live without the knowledge that they are prepared for a couple months at least?

I can remember when new in the military, every paycheck, which was not much, I would put up food To last till the next one (and no chow hall)

I swore never again.
 
I’m curious as why TP is in huge demand.

Have Americans never heard of a bidet? I have two, works great.
 
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Aberro said:
yep, I have a few months of food, etc on hand if I never left the house.
How can people live without the knowledge that they are prepared for a couple months at least?

I can remember when new in the military, every paycheck, which was not much, I would put up food To last till the next one (and no chow hall)

I swore never again.
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You have the right attitude, and why those with a plan will tend to succeed in a crises and those that have no plan are planning to fail.
 
Aberro said:
I’m curious as why TP is in huge demand.
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No one really knows

There's never been a shortage of TP (except small ones when people go buy it all)
The TP supply chain infrastructure is apparently entirely on this continent
(with much of it in the US itself) for almost all TP manufacturer/suppliers

There seems to be about zero chance of TP disappearing any time soon.
The stores seem to be able to stay open even in areas where people are isolating.

To be fair, it's not just Americans who're being irrational about toilet paper
 
Manc Skipper said:
America is more at risk than most, since testing is sparse at best, and costs money, then it's impossible to get a handle on how and where the infection is at it's worst. Couple that with the lack of sick pay, meaning many if not most, even if they test positive, will keep on coming to work, instead of "isolating", and it's looking bad. Then there's the uninsured!
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For most people here in the US the virus is non-existent, today. That attitude is beginning to change and it will change rapidly with a sudden upsurge of reported infected. We are woefully behind in testing. We are, however, beginning to see some businesses and local and state governments being proactive. Not enough yet.

Yes, our uninsured and unemployed are going to suffer more than anyone else. That may, in turn, cause greater spread of the virus.

Generally, I have nothing to do with people wearing MAGA hats. Now, I'll avoid the hell out of them as there is probably a greater likelihood that they are out doing whatever as if there is no pandemic. People who don't take the virus seriously are more likely to be infected.
 
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