Why are people so inconsiderate and annoying?

GDViking said:

Never been, thought about it however I really hate the desert..

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118 degrees during the day for 7-10 days with no way to escape it gets oppressive. A couple days push me to my limit every year. But I love it.

GDViking said:

BTW there is nothing wrong with sounding like a hippie.

Even though I cannot imagine buying a ticket for the desert, how much are tickets?

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500 bucks. And there's always gear to buy for your first year depending on how much camping and other stuff you already own. Plus all your food, water, travel to and from, etc. My first year cost me about two grand. Then I had to get a return on the investment, so I went back. I do the whole thing for about $1,000 a year now and that includes two nights in a hotel because it takes me two days to drive there, one way.

RedSunRising said:

118 degrees during the day for 7-10 days with no way to escape it gets oppressive. A couple days push me to my limit every year. But I love it.

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Nope, anything above 79 and I'm grumpy as ****.

Move it to Alaska and I'm there!!!

GDViking said:

Nope, anything above 79 and I'm grumpy as ****.

Move it to Alaska and I'm there!!!

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I'll suggest that.

To the OT I think it's due to a lack of self respect and I don't believe self respect can be attained without showing respect to others.

Lovebug said:

But why are people so inconsiderate?

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Because:

1. Their parents did not set a good example for them.

2. They basically do not like themselves.

Lack of love for neighbor...by neighbor, I mean anyone other than self...

Lovebug said:

Have you ever lived somewhere and thought you should move to get away from people who think of nothing but themselves?
I am sure that some of you think I am just too spoiled, to nutty, to picky, to intolerant. That is ok, so be it.
Let me think back on some of the most annoying places we have lived. Of course the neighborhoods that were puzzled by our appearance are first and foremost on the list. Despicable people who treat animals as a commodity are second.
Third on the list are people who think they can play loud music at their leisure, or burn trash whenever it suits their fancy.
To be transparent, we are traveling the country right now, staying at a campground. Too bad the guy who owns the property next to it thinks he can annoy people. Yesterday he was burning what smelled like tires. Today, right now, he is listening to music, full blast.
No, this isn't really about us. We can move, it we want. But why are people so inconsiderate?

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It's the 'ugly American syndrome'... Look at Donald Trump! An ugly American elected by ugly Americans.

They don't care. They are white trash.

I live in a high income, somewhat snooty suburb. The homeowner's association is super strict and the cops constantly patrol busting people for the smallest infractions. I don't have the kind of problems you speak of, but we get hit with fines for leaving a trash can out overnight, weeds in the grass, faded wooden fences, etc. Pick your poison.

SDET said:

I live in a high income, somewhat snooty suburb. The homeowner's association is super strict and the cops constantly patrol busting people for the smallest infractions. I don't have the kind of problems you speak of, but we get hit with fines for leaving a trash can out overnight, weeds in the grass, faded wooden fences, etc. Pick your poison.

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Weeds don't make noises. They are unsightly and bring down the neighborhood. Not sure what's worse. We looked at a really neat property the other day. It has a few acres, serene meadows, some hills, house is fine. Driving up to the house nearly made me puke. I might get into why if you insist, but I am sure you can use your imagination.

Lovebug said:

Have you ever lived somewhere and thought you should move to get away from people who think of nothing but themselves?
I am sure that some of you think I am just too spoiled, to nutty, to picky, to intolerant. That is ok, so be it.
Let me think back on some of the most annoying places we have lived. Of course the neighborhoods that were puzzled by our appearance are first and foremost on the list. Despicable people who treat animals as a commodity are second.
Third on the list are people who think they can play loud music at their leisure, or burn trash whenever it suits their fancy.
To be transparent, we are traveling the country right now, staying at a campground. Too bad the guy who owns the property next to it thinks he can annoy people. Yesterday he was burning what smelled like tires. Today, right now, he is listening to music, full blast.
No, this isn't really about us. We can move, it we want. But why are people so inconsiderate?

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If what he was doing is legal in that area, then he could do it to suit his fancy and he couldn't do it without disturbing somebody sometime if there is a campground next door.

My experience is that you either deal with rabble or with busybodies unless you want to be on acreage where things are set up where nobody can go near your house unless they trespass.

Lovebug said:

Weeds don't make noises. They are unsightly and bring down the neighborhood. Not sure what's worse. We looked at a really neat property the other day. It has a few acres, serene meadows, some hills, house is fine. Driving up to the house nearly made me puke. I might get into why if you insist, but I am sure you can use your imagination.

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The worst job in the world? Being a customer service rep.

People know your job is to just listen to their cr-p without fighting back, so they often see it as a no-holds-barred slugfest. These spoiled rotten jerks just use the customer service reps like a punching bag for all their frustrations and disappointments in their miserable life. I have seen some of these poor people behind the counter getting abuse no human being should ever be subject to. And I'm sure it's not just about their complaint about whatever little nitpicky ridiculous thing it is they are yelling about. If they want something actually done about their complaints, that's not the way to do it. But it's not about their complaints, it's just a place for them to vent all their misery, anger, and frustrations of life in general. I swear it should be illegal.

ataraxia said:

The worst job in the world? Being a customer service rep.

People know your job is to just listen to their cr-p without fighting back, so they often see it as a no-holds-barred slugfest. These spoiled rotten jerks just use the customer service reps like a punching bag for all their frustrations and disappointments in their miserable life. I have seen some of these poor people behind the counter getting abuse no human being should ever be subject to. And I'm sure it's not just about their complaint about whatever little nitpicky ridiculous thing it is they are yelling about. If they want something actually done about their complaints, that's not the way to do it. But it's not about their complaints, it's just a place for them to vent all their misery, anger, and frustrations of life in general. I swear it should be illegal.

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Last year I worked as a cashier, challenging myself to a new skills. Studying people and their behavior is one of my favorite past times. The gall of some was just amazing. A few times they pulled me over to customer service for returns and such, because "you are so patient", they said. Many of the complainers were so hyped up when they came up to the counter, they couldn't verbalize their actual grievance.
Patiently smiling and listening, hoping they calm down eventually, long lines behind them, what an experience. I don't miss it.

Far worse than "inconsiderate" and "annoying" persons are those who hide nastiness under a wannabe Victorian venire, cloaking rudeness with an appearance of politeness. You know, the people who won't simply have a direct go at another person's statement, choosing instead to wrap a bunch of passive-aggressive nastiness in polite-sounding language.

Lovebug said:

Some deserted island?
I don't like restrictions. People should be able to choose, that is a given.But the privilege to chose comes with responsibilities. Right?
Don't get me wrong, I love people. Sometimes I wonder why.
BTW, dude is repeating the same song. I can't make it out, but the base makes it obvious it is the same song over and over and over again.
Earplugs might help, but an RV makes for very shaky walls.

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Could he be drugged up?

There's a place for the "Ugly American Syndrome"; it causes things to get done. However, if you want peace of mind a non-fraternization approach is necessary. That's what works for me.

jet57 said:

It's the 'ugly American syndrome'... Look at Donald Trump! An ugly American elected by ugly Americans.

They don't care. They are white trash.

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Those people are known as company executives. Remove the social component and learn the concept of leverage when dealing with them. Corporate Anglo women are particularly adept at what you describe. This means your communication should be only to inform of a specific action such as why you can't take on a specific project (it DOESN'T have to be the real reason), an alternative job offer or a lawsuit.

Communicate, but don't explain your actions.

Mr Person said:

Far worse than "inconsiderate" and "annoying" persons are those who hide nastiness under a wannabe Victorian veneer, cloaking rudeness with an appearance of politeness. You know, the people who won't simply have a direct go at another person's statement, choosing instead to wrap a bunch of passive-aggressive nastiness in polite-sounding language.

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Yes, it was one of the reasons why I left the United States. The political situation and the very obvious degradation of the common trust were big factors in why I decided I did not want my children growing up in that society.

I have travelled all over the world. Yes it's true, humans have similar features everywhere. We are material beings who have survival needs and this necessitates some degree of selfishness. However, some cultures are a lot more selfish than others. I have lived in communities where the common trust is so high that people leave their front doors and cars unlocked, and there are food stands on the side of the road where people are trusted to take food and leave money without anyone monitoring them. I have seen the honors system work wonders in places like that.

The biggest thing I have learned over the years is that the more affluent a culture is, the more selfish they are. The kindest, most generous people I have ever met have very little, but they will come together to support you and their community. What I see in societies where there is no real struggle is an entitled complacency where people don't have to rely on one another as much, and the social fabric begins to degenerate. People get soft, comfortable and lazy... in their bodies and in their thinking. They stop caring about where things come from or who is involved in getting it to them. They lose all gratitude and humility.

Also? In those cultures where common trust is high, they affirm it like it's human nature. "Humans are selfish by nature, so of course that's why we act this way." These bloated, luxury cultures will go out of their way to justify why they are a selfish waste of space.

Lovebug said:

Have you ever lived somewhere and thought you should move to get away from people who think of nothing but themselves?
I am sure that some of you think I am just too spoiled, to nutty, to picky, to intolerant. That is ok, so be it.
Let me think back on some of the most annoying places we have lived. Of course the neighborhoods that were puzzled by our appearance are first and foremost on the list. Despicable people who treat animals as a commodity are second.
Third on the list are people who think they can play loud music at their leisure, or burn trash whenever it suits their fancy.
To be transparent, we are traveling the country right now, staying at a campground. Too bad the guy who owns the property next to it thinks he can annoy people. Yesterday he was burning what smelled like tires. Today, right now, he is listening to music, full blast.
No, this isn't really about us. We can move, it we want. But why are people so inconsiderate?

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the culture of this country is me first. We were taught in the 80s that selfishness is a good thing and now this is what you get.

The younger generations tend to be better about it and more thankful.

What I do is I am kind. If people are weirded out, I disarm them with a smile and just genuineness. It works around 90% of the time and people just relax. It takes mental strength though and that took me a long time to learn.

Mr Person said:

Far worse than "inconsiderate" and "annoying" persons are those who hide nastiness under a wannabe Victorian venire, cloaking rudeness with an appearance of politeness. You know, the people who won't simply have a direct go at another person's statement, choosing instead to wrap a bunch of passive-aggressive nastiness in polite-sounding language.

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this sums up pretty much my entire experience with southern culture

nitroexpress said:

Could he be drugged up?

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Anything is possible

tacomancer said:

the culture of this country is me first. We were taught in the 80s that selfishness is a good thing and now this is what you get.

The younger generations tend to be better about it and more thankful.

What I do is I am kind. If people are weirded out, I disarm them with a smile and just genuineness. It works around 90% of the time and people just relax. It takes mental strength though and that took me a long time to learn.

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We could be good friends irl

People are generally self-serving. They key is to see through (or be naturally blind to in my case) the social smokescreen, assess where the leverage is and proceed accordingly. Staying emotionless leads to a better ability to think about leverage.

tacomancer said:

the culture of this country is me first. We were taught in the 80s that selfishness is a good thing and now this is what you get.

The younger generations tend to be better about it and more thankful.

What I do is I am kind. If people are weirded out, I disarm them with a smile and just genuineness. It works around 90% of the time and people just relax. It takes mental strength though and that took me a long time to learn.

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SDET said:

People are generally self-serving. They key is to see through (or be naturally blind to in my case) the social smokescreen, assess where the leverage is and proceed accordingly.

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to reiterate a famous quote from the late 60s.

"wherever you go, there you are"