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Some advice on mixing meds and herbs?

Add ginger to that too. The black pepper makes the anti inflammatory ingredient in turmeric more 'bio available''.. i.e. it lets your body absorb it better. Cayenne and cinnamon help too

Thank you very much.
I just happen to have some powdered ginger for making my Teriyaki sauce.
This should help immensely.
I appreciate your advice.
 
I have learned on this site, regardless of lean, there is a huge wealth of knowledge contained in the membership here.

I find my honesty has put me between a rock and a hard place.

A. I discovered a couple months ago an herb called Kratom that helps tremendously with the pain I am enduring. In the mornings is when it is the worst.
I take four 500mg capsules of Kratom with one 325/5mg Hydrocodone and in an hour or so I am almost pain free for about six hours straight. After that I don't really need anything else but to lay down for 40 minutes if i start to hurt again. It really helps a lot.

Now the bad part.

B. I mentioned this to my doctor and he said if I take any Kratom he will no longer prescribe my Hydrocodone. There is so much misinformation about Kratom out there, but I think his decision might be insurance driven in that if anything were to happen if he said YES, then he may be opening himself up for some liability.

C. Silver lining is Kratom seldom shows up in any drug blood tests or urinalysis.

Should i lie and continue taking it which allows the Hydrocodone to be extended

or

discontinue the Kratom and run out of Hydrocodone much earlier.

My doctor has normally been very understanding in writing me prescriptions with no end date, but instead say "AS NEEDED". This means I can take the bottle with me on trips and not worry about over zealous cops.

Pill heads gobble up their pill almost within days, then go to their supplier and put more back in their bottle.
This is why it is illegal to carry opiate pills with you if the prescription has expired and there are still pills in the bottle.
You just committed a felony.

"AS NEEDED" takes away that dangerous issue.

What should I do? Any and all constructive advice is welcomed.

Go carefully, and research thoroughly. The reason that a number of these natural drugs haven't been pursued is that they often don't play well with others. Before turning to pot for my anxiety, I did a lot of research on kava kava. It was great, helped with the anxiety, and was less intoxicating than pot, so could be used through the day...until I looked at the list of drugs that it was known to interact badly with, which was a mile long.

If you're looking into more "exotic" methods of managing your pain, hopefully you have at least looked at pot. In contrast to most of the "herbal remedies" that are out there (many that work very well on their own, please don't read a bad attitude into this), it plays well with other prescriptions, and you never have to wonder if it's working. ;)

Best of luck.
 
Go carefully, and research thoroughly. The reason that a number of these natural drugs haven't been pursued is that they often don't play well with others. Before turning to pot for my anxiety, I did a lot of research on kava kava. It was great, helped with the anxiety, and was less intoxicating than pot, so could be used through the day...until I looked at the list of drugs that it was known to interact badly with, which was a mile long.

If you're looking into more "exotic" methods of managing your pain, hopefully you have at least looked at pot. In contrast to most of the "herbal remedies" that are out there (many that work very well on their own, please don't read a bad attitude into this), it plays well with other prescriptions, and you never have to wonder if it's working. ;)

Best of luck.

Thank you for your wise advice.
I tried pot and it was a disaster. My fault, not the pot's.
but...though I was immobile for almost three days stoned on my ass, my back and neck still hurt.
That was the most worse feeling in the world to still be hurting and can't move and barely talk.

POT EDIBLES can kick your ass if you are not careful.
The cookie did not even taste good. Tasted more like dirt.
They called 911 and thought I was dying.
I remember distinctly hearing a female voice from one of the responders saying, " Don't they know edibles are much more powerful than smoking"?
SHORT ANSWER.....NO...I had no idea, as i don't smoke anything.
Just trying to ease some pain.

4 grams of kraton with Tumeric in the morning and i am good all day.

A SIDE NOTE: Since I have also decided to eliminate refined sugar in my sweet tea and use honey, I seem to have much more energy.
it is amazing.
 
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I have learned on this site, regardless of lean, there is a huge wealth of knowledge contained in the membership here.

I find my honesty has put me between a rock and a hard place.

A. I discovered a couple months ago an herb called Kratom that helps tremendously with the pain I am enduring. In the mornings is when it is the worst.
I take four 500mg capsules of Kratom with one 325/5mg Hydrocodone and in an hour or so I am almost pain free for about six hours straight. After that I don't really need anything else but to lay down for 40 minutes if i start to hurt again. It really helps a lot.

Now the bad part.

B. I mentioned this to my doctor and he said if I take any Kratom he will no longer prescribe my Hydrocodone. There is so much misinformation about Kratom out there, but I think his decision might be insurance driven in that if anything were to happen if he said YES, then he may be opening himself up for some liability.

C. Silver lining is Kratom seldom shows up in any drug blood tests or urinalysis.

Should i lie and continue taking it which allows the Hydrocodone to be extended

or

discontinue the Kratom and run out of Hydrocodone much earlier.

My doctor has normally been very understanding in writing me prescriptions with no end date, but instead say "AS NEEDED". This means I can take the bottle with me on trips and not worry about over zealous cops.

Pill heads gobble up their pill almost within days, then go to their supplier and put more back in their bottle.
This is why it is illegal to carry opiate pills with you if the prescription has expired and there are still pills in the bottle.
You just committed a felony.

"AS NEEDED" takes away that dangerous issue.

What should I do? Any and all constructive advice is welcomed.

I normally check the herbs on webmd for side effects, and interactions. You might not want to take the opiates with it. The opiates I've never liked, even when going through several kidney stones. There has been issues with some herbs that are used as replacements though. I would not take them together, as some herbal interactions with drugs can be debilitating, or even life threatening, if not handled properly. You can always seek advice from a local herbalist.
 
Pain can really destroy your life. It's hard to deal with short term and forever would next to impossible.
The kraton worries me because do you know the purity of the herb each time you get it?
Just be as careful as you can be. And keep searching for the relief that you need. I like post 54 look
for help from people with great knowledge on the subject.
Wishing you well!
 
Thank you very much.
I just happen to have some powdered ginger for making my Teriyaki sauce.
This should help immensely.
I appreciate your advice.

I used turmeric, but it just wasn't worth the gut bomb. I started taking bromelain instead for inflammation.
 
I used turmeric, but it just wasn't worth the gut bomb. I started taking bromelain instead for inflammation.

BROMELAIN I will research it. Does it work OK?

I have not experienced the "gut bomb" you described....or maybe I have. Could you give more details?
I do feel fatter. Or maybe this is just because i have been neglecting the treadmill.
 
I normally check the herbs on webmd for side effects, and interactions. You might not want to take the opiates with it. The opiates I've never liked, even when going through several kidney stones. There has been issues with some herbs that are used as replacements though. I would not take them together, as some herbal interactions with drugs can be debilitating, or even life threatening, if not handled properly. You can always seek advice from a local herbalist.

There is a local herbalist a couple hours away.
I think it would be well worth a road trip to visit him.
Good advice, thank you.
 
BROMELAIN I will research it. Does it work OK?

I have not experienced the "gut bomb" you described....or maybe I have. Could you give more details?
I do feel fatter. Or maybe this is just because i have been neglecting the treadmill.

Bromelain seems to help, but it's hard to say. I take a mix of herbs, and felt a little worse when I ran out, and had to reorder. It's a pineapple enzyme that fights inflammation. Turmeric just gave me a sour stomach even with food. I don't know if it would have gone away, because I couldn't stand it long enough to hope to get used to it. You should check webmd, or with an herbalist if you take prescription meds
 
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