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Prevent being outsourced ?

SDET

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I'm NOT talking about getting help from government policy. That is realistically out of any individual's control. I'm on a team that is about 80/20 offshore/onshore. The offshore team is located in South America and quite frankly some pretty sharp people. After getting a good rapport with one of them, I was able to find out that they make about USD 7 per hour, about a tenth of what I make. I make it a point to always be building my skills, especially in Python, Statistics and Machine Learning. I want to be ever more prepared to be called into an executive's office while being asked "What value do you bring to the table that our people in South America don't?" That means not only being prepared for a good answer, but to build know-how over time that means being able to give an even better answer. I posed this question to my team lead. He gave the pat answers of being a native English speaker, not having cultural disparities with management, we are able to collaborate better in person.

I could just picture my team lead in such a discussion and hearing the executive say "Not good enough". I got our manager to agree to let me travel to spend time with the team in South America on my own dime, but count it as company time. I plan to analyze what they have to offer then see what I can focus on achieving that they can't.
That is easy if the offshore team is in India with a "good lie will fix anything" mentality. It's a bigger challenge with a South American offshore team.

What would you do, or do you do to show management that you offer something that an offshore team can't?
 
My Wife's company's VP was making light of the fact at a meeting that their workers at their Mexican plants only made $1.50 per. Globalism is a wonderful thing....not.
 
i'm very competent, i'm on site, and i have expertise that most others don't have. however, they will eventually replace me with a robot, i'd guess. it's all about the bottom line.
 
What would you do, or do you do to show management that you offer something that an offshore team can't?
As a former co-owner (and now silent partner) in a BPO firm, the answer is: none. :mrgreen:
 
I'm NOT talking about getting help from government policy. That is realistically out of any individual's control. I'm on a team that is about 80/20 offshore/onshore. The offshore team is located in South America and quite frankly some pretty sharp people. After getting a good rapport with one of them, I was able to find out that they make about USD 7 per hour, about a tenth of what I make. I make it a point to always be building my skills, especially in Python, Statistics and Machine Learning. I want to be ever more prepared to be called into an executive's office while being asked "What value do you bring to the table that our people in South America don't?" That means not only being prepared for a good answer, but to build know-how over time that means being able to give an even better answer. I posed this question to my team lead. He gave the pat answers of being a native English speaker, not having cultural disparities with management, we are able to collaborate better in person.

I could just picture my team lead in such a discussion and hearing the executive say "Not good enough". I got our manager to agree to let me travel to spend time with the team in South America on my own dime, but count it as company time. I plan to analyze what they have to offer then see what I can focus on achieving that they can't.
That is easy if the offshore team is in India with a "good lie will fix anything" mentality. It's a bigger challenge with a South American offshore team.

What would you do, or do you do to show management that you offer something that an offshore team can't?

the people in South American can not be background checked, so work for companies like banks and health organizations where they have to preform a background check. I do the commerical accounts , where a background check is part of the process. The south america team can't be background checked. I figure I can last long enough to retire.
 
the people in South American can not be background checked, so work for companies like banks and health organizations where they have to preform a background check. I do the commerical accounts , where a background check is part of the process. The south america team can't be background checked. I figure I can last long enough to retire.

Darn good answer. MAYBE A background check is worth something in Brazil and Chile but not the other South American countries.
 
Darn good answer. MAYBE A background check is worth something in Brazil and Chile but not the other South American countries.

I know that the folks we have on our team in Argentina can not work on accounts where there are background checks.
 
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