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Is Sober the New Cool?

calamity said:
Scanning through my facebook news feeds seems to suggest a common theme: everyone is trying to get straight. We've got one lady celebrating her 90 days. Another is proudly broadcasting his 10 years. A few friends are posting memes about the harm drinking does to the brain. Others are even bad mouthing the MJ. What the hell is going on?

Even within the family, I notice that sobriety is the in-thing. My mom quit drinking, citing her age and an Afib issue which seems to spike whenever she imbibes. My wife stopped drinking about 2 months ago, citing too much heartburn and a desire to get back into a size 3 as her reasons for change. My dad said he only drinks twice a week now. In-laws, cousins and sibs have all quit years ago as I did, mostly because the booze messes up my cycling schedule.

Makes me wonder if being sober is not the new cool. I can see why. Addictions are a huge problem these days, and messing with substances has truly become uncool because of it.
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I guess I'll have to be uncool.


There really is no need to "get sober" unless you really are addicted to something. Otherwise, just drink less, if you think you are drinking too much. Etc.
 
Alcohol consumption decreases inhibition. If the OP is right, and I think it is, then inhibition has become "cool." Extrapolating from the OP, I see this millennial era as an Era of Inhibition, from the language we use to the relationship between the sexes. Now, the hook-up culture only appears to go against the grain. Wildly broad legal definitions of consent may actually have had a chilling effect on the birds and the bees as well. I've aged out of that culture so I can't really say for sure, but generally speaking, as compared, say, to the late Sixties and Seventies surely, the times have changed, and the change is toward increased inhibition. :)
 
I never was cool, so I think I'll have a beer and suffer with that knowledge. I might have to suffer two or three times this evening. I hate it. All that suffering...
 
Angel said:
Alcohol consumption decreases inhibition. If the OP is right, and I think it is, then inhibition has become "cool." Extrapolating from the OP, I see this millennial era as an Era of Inhibition, from the language we use to the relationship between the sexes. Now, the hook-up culture only appears to go against the grain. Wildly broad legal definitions of consent may actually have had a chilling effect on the birds and the bees as well. I've aged out of that culture so I can't really say for sure, but generally speaking, as compared, say, to the late Sixties and Seventies surely, the times have changed, and the change is toward increased inhibition. :)
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Wow. How utterly quaint. People are hooking up quite apart from any intoxicants, and consent doesn't differ wildly.

We are now FAR less inhibited than we were in the 60s/70s.

I think you're right: you've aged out of the game and don't know what you're talking about.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Wow. How utterly quaint. People are hooking up quite apart from any intoxicants, and consent doesn't differ wildly.

We are now FAR less inhibited than we were in the 60s/70s.

I think you're right: you've aged out of the game and don't know what you're talking about.
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And you know what you're talking about, yes?
Based on what do you assert in capital letters that "We are now FAR less inhibited than we were in the 60s/70s"?
 
Angel said:
And you know what you're talking about, yes?
Based on what do you assert in capital letters that "We are now FAR less inhibited than we were in the 60s/70s"?
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Yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks!
 
Angel said:
Yes, we're all very glad you think you know what you're talking about, but why then keep it a secret? ;)
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A. The extent of sexual activity at younger ages.
B. The extent of pornography and the ease of its availability
C. The various cultures and sub-cultures that are associated with party lifestyles.
D. The massive amount of online dating.
E. The massive amount of online hookups
F. The level of sex and violence in mass media entertainment
G. The divorce rate.
H. The (re)normalization and widespread acceptance of marijuana
I. The push towards hard reduction as opposed to prohibition
J. Etc....

It's not even remotely a 'secret' to anyone aware of the current state of social mores and history.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
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J. Etc....
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There you go! See. That didn't hurt, now did it?
Like I said, I could be wrong.
And who knows, you could be right.
Stranger things have happened.
Then again, exhibition may be the new inhibition.
And masturbation is sublimation.
Sexual liberation is a myth.
:)
 
Angel said:
There you go! See. That didn't hurt, now did it?
Like I said, I could be wrong.
And who knows, you could be right.
Stranger things have happened.
Then again, exhibition may be the new inhibition.
And masturbation is sublimation.
Sexual liberation is a myth.
:)
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Yawn. You are, indeed, wrong, and simply have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Wow. How utterly quaint. People are hooking up quite apart from any intoxicants, and consent doesn't differ wildly.

We are now FAR less inhibited than we were in the 60s/70s.

I think you're right: you've aged out of the game and don't know what you're talking about.
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I don't know. If you asked me, the wild times were the 80's. Then along came AIDS, and everyone sort of freaked out. Not that the sexual activity came to a screeching halt. But it had an impact. At the very least, people began putting on raincoats.

Also, and I believe this is worth thinking about, something happened to libido. It seems to be on the decline. Now, this could be due to our aging society, or perhaps men and women are too stressed, over-worked, digging too much porn, whatever. But, frequency of sexual relations are on the wan.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yawn. You are, indeed, wrong, and simply have no idea what you're talking about.
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Burp. And you are, indeed, right, sir, possibly, and more simply than I, have only the vaguest idea what I'm talking about. ;)
 
I went out with some coworkers last night. Some of them were definitely getting tanked. But, I noticed something weird. Rather than talk to each other face to face, even when sitting next to each other, they preferred to send snapchats to each other and laugh about them. weird.
 
I like to get my shine on every so often....hehe...much less now that I'm a father, with a son who gets up the same day no matter how many "daddy pops" I had the night before...hehe... I predict that doing so will never go totally out of style...there's just something about that glow, and there's just something else about a true bender. But I also predict that a lot of people will find they like pot better, as it becomes legal in more and more places, which is good because I'd rather deal with a stoner than a drunk any day...having spent a few years living in an apartment in a building across from a college I know what I'm talking about. :)
 
Winston said:
I went out with some coworkers last night. Some of them were definitely getting tanked. But, I noticed something weird. Rather than talk to each other face to face, even when sitting next to each other, they preferred to send snapchats to each other and laugh about them. weird.
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calamity said:
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Lol I def felt a generation gap. But I did notice it was only females who did the whole I'm only snap chatting with these girls in the same room as me thing.
 
calamity said:
Scanning through my facebook news feeds seems to suggest a common theme: everyone is trying to get straight. We've got one lady celebrating her 90 days. Another is proudly broadcasting his 10 years. A few friends are posting memes about the harm drinking does to the brain. Others are even bad mouthing the MJ. What the hell is going on?

Even within the family, I notice that sobriety is the in-thing. My mom quit drinking, citing her age and an Afib issue which seems to spike whenever she imbibes. My wife stopped drinking about 2 months ago, citing too much heartburn and a desire to get back into a size 3 as her reasons for change. My dad said he only drinks twice a week now. In-laws, cousins and sibs have all quit years ago as I did, mostly because the booze messes up my cycling schedule.

Makes me wonder if being sober is not the new cool. I can see why. Addictions are a huge problem these days, and messing with substances has truly become uncool because of it.
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To answer the OP title, for anybody with a brain, it always was.
 
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