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The Placebo Effect

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I assume everyone reading this knows what the placebo affect is.

But what does it mean? And why is the placebo effect not deeply researched?
A lot of time it is put away as 'It is only a placebo effect".


I think the placebo effect does say something, or maybe a lot about the strength of our mind or consciousness.
Alas, there isn't much conscious research going on at universities ( There is always , nothing really going n in unviersities, see my other thread.)
 
Palandro said:
I assume everyone reading this knows what the placebo affect is.

But what does it mean? And why is the placebo effect not deeply researched?
A lot of time it is put away as 'It is only a placebo effect".


I think the placebo effect does say something, or maybe a lot about the strength of our mind or consciousness.
Alas, there isn't much conscious research going on at universities ( There is always , nothing really going n in unviersities, see my other thread.)
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Is there some content or objective in your thread? I don't see one.
 
Palandro said:
I assume everyone reading this knows what the placebo affect is.

But what does it mean? And why is the placebo effect not deeply researched?
A lot of time it is put away as 'It is only a placebo effect".


I think the placebo effect does say something, or maybe a lot about the strength of our mind or consciousness.
Alas, there isn't much conscious research going on at universities ( There is always , nothing really going n in unviersities, see my other thread.)
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They are red hot on spelling in universities. How would you know anything about what goes on in them?
 
Palandro said:
I assume everyone reading this knows what the placebo affect is.

But what does it mean? And why is the placebo effect not deeply researched?
A lot of time it is put away as 'It is only a placebo effect".


I think the placebo effect does say something, or maybe a lot about the strength of our mind or consciousness.
Alas, there isn't much conscious research going on at universities ( There is always , nothing really going n in unviersities, see my other thread.)
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It has been studied some,
The power of the placebo effect - Harvard Health
I think it comes down to, we know less about Human physiology, than we pretend we do!
Consider that someone has a illness that is related to some mineral deficiency, (unknown to them)
subconsciously they may pick foods that contain that mineral.
It could be that your body identified the deficiency and craved things needed to replace what was needed.
The other aspect would be simply a good attitude, believing you will get better, or in the case of an actual placebo,
believing that you have received the real drug. It is likely not much different than someone
who is healed by faith, they believe it, so it is real.
 
longview said:
It is likely not much different than someone
who is healed by faith, they believe it, so it is real.
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Well, doesn't that tell us something about the mind/consciousness?
If faith can heal, then that is remarkable. I think it should be studied more then.
 
Palandro said:
Well, doesn't that tell us something about the mind/consciousness?
If faith can heal, then that is remarkable. I think it should be studied more then.
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Then what? You didn't finish the sentence.
 
Palandro said:
I assume everyone reading this knows what the placebo affect is.
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Don't worry. If someone doesn't know what the placebo effect is, telling them everyone knows will make them believe they know too. ;)

Palandro said:
But what does it mean? And why is the placebo effect not deeply researched?
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What makes you imagine it isn't researched? Have you actually looked?
 
HonestJoe said:
What makes you imagine it isn't researched? Have you actually looked?
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I know it is researched but not very much and not very deep.

If they really did "Modrn Academic Science" will go down.
 
Palandro said:
I know it is researched but not very much and not very deep.
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What research on the topic have you already read up and what are you proposing hasn't been addressed?

Palandro said:
If they really did "Modrn Academic Science" will go down.
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You're going to have to take me through the logical steps that lead you to this conclusion because I really don't see how it could possibly be the case.
 
HonestJoe said:
You're going to have to take me through the logical steps that lead you to this conclusion because I really don't see how it could possibly be the case.
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Simple, Modern Academic Science" is wrong in so many things, if 'consciousness' enters the picture it would even go down faster,
but consciousness is a taboo subject. Please don't start on psychology.

What "Modern Acemic Science" (M.A.S) totally ignores is the invisible, non-physical world. If "Moderm Academic Science" embraces that, that wil be the day!
 
Palandro said:
Simple, Modern Academic Science" is wrong in so many things, if 'consciousness' enters the picture it would even go down faster,
but consciousness is a taboo subject. Please don't start on psychology.

What "Modern Acemic Science" (M.A.S) totally ignores is the invisible, non-physical world. If "Moderm Academic Science" embraces that, that wil be the day!
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That simply isn't true. Consciousness is studied, both physiologically and psychologically, along with countless other "invisible, non-physical" phenomena. Just because they don't reach the specific conclusions you want to believe doesn't automatically make them wrong.
 
Palandro said:
Simple, Modern Academic Science" is wrong in so many things, if 'consciousness' enters the picture it would even go down faster,
but consciousness is a taboo subject. Please don't start on psychology.

What "Modern Acemic Science" (M.A.S) totally ignores is the invisible, non-physical world. If "Moderm Academic Science" embraces that, that wil be the day!
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You don't half post some nonsense!
 
~ There is no placebo effect in animals. Perhaps they are more intelligent ❓
 
LosAngelesAngel said:
~ There is no placebo effect in animals. Perhaps they are more intelligent ❓
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Animals that are receiving inert treatments often show improvement in subjective outcomes (such as pain), which are assessed by caregivers, clinicians, or researchers. While it is generally accepted that most animals are not cognitively capable of having beliefs and expectations about their medical care, and cannot have the classic direct placebo response, humans involved in these studies are susceptible to such effects. This caregiver placebo effect has been convincingly demonstrated.5,7

Animals receiving inert treatments may show improvement due to causes other than direct placebo effects. Research has shown human contact has predictable effects on behavioral and physiologic responses in domesticated animals, and these effects can be interpreted as improvement in clinical symptoms.2,9 And just as classical condition contributes to placebo effects in humans, such conditioned responses certainly are present in other animals and likely generate changes in the condition of animal patients and research subjects receiving inert treatments.

What is a placebo? - Veterinary Practice News
 
HonestJoe said:
That simply isn't true. Consciousness is studied, both physiologically and psychologically, along with countless other "invisible, non-physical" phenomena. Just because they don't reach the specific conclusions you want to believe doesn't automatically make them wrong.
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Ok, well please tell me more. Iam very curious, Oh and you really mean: ""invisible, non-physical" phenomena.", I specifically targetted 'physics". Please show me if it is the case, I might be wrong, but in this case I doubt that.
 
LosAngelesAngel said:
~ There is no placebo effect in animals. Perhaps they are more intelligent ❓
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I do extremely agree with your last statement, but I wil include plants as well. People are very ****ed up at the moment.
 
Palandro said:
Ok, well please tell me more. Iam very curious, Oh and you really mean: ""invisible, non-physical" phenomena.", I specifically targetted 'physics". Please show me if it is the case, I might be wrong, but in this case I doubt that.
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Consciousness - Wikipedia (please don't just dismiss Wikipedia out of hand, you can follow the references)

I was being sarcastic when I echoed your phrase "invisible, non-physical".
 
Palandro said:
Ok, well please tell me more. Iam very curious, Oh and you really mean: ""invisible, non-physical" phenomena.", I specifically targetted 'physics". Please show me if it is the case, I might be wrong, but in this case I doubt that.
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You are always wrong.
 
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