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Google, facebook. Twitter etc where created to spy on us.

Palandro

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Yep, from the beginning in Sillicon Valley, all the big coorporations were creating technolgy to spy on us.
Internet etc was never intended to be used as a liberating tool, but as a tracking and spying tool, right from the beginning.
The creation of these technology can be traced back to the...Pentagon/cia, ah well, what else is new?

That explains a lot of what is going on right now.
 
Conspiracy theories is a few floors down, look into it.

No one says you must use Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. and the majority of those companies use that information for revenue not so much passing over to the government.
 
Yep, from the beginning in Sillicon Valley, all the big coorporations were creating technolgy to spy on us.
Internet etc was never intended to be used as a liberating tool, but as a tracking and spying tool, right from the beginning.
The creation of these technology can be traced back to the...Pentagon/cia, ah well, what else is new?

That explains a lot of what is going on right now.

Paglandro:

The Internet was created so that scientists could more easily share research and ideas. It was created by those scientists (academics) piggy-backing on a pre-existing national defence communications infrastructure. It was not created for spying as you claim. More falsehoods.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
Paglandro:

The Internet was created so that scientists could more easily share research and ideas. It was created by those scientists (academics) piggy-backing on a pre-existing national defence communications infrastructure. It was not created for spying as you claim. More falsehoods.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

Really? Do first some research:

Please read the book:

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The internet is the most effective weapon the government has ever built.

In this fascinating book, investigative reporter Yasha Levine uncovers the secret origins of the internet, tracing it back to a Pentagon counterinsurgency surveillance project.

A visionary intelligence officer, William Godel, realized that the key to winning the war in Vietnam was not outgunning the enemy, but using new information technology to understand their motives and anticipate their movements. This idea--using computers to spy on people and groups perceived as a threat, both at home and abroad--drove ARPA to develop the internet in the 1960s, and continues to be at the heart of the modern internet we all know and use today. As Levine shows, surveillance wasn't something that suddenly appeared on the internet; it was woven into the fabric of the technology.

But this isn't just a story about the NSA or other domestic programs run by the government. As the book spins forward in time, Levine examines the private surveillance business that powers tech-industry giants like Google, Facebook, and Amazon, revealing how these companies spy on their users for profit, all while doing double duty as military and intelligence contractors. Levine shows that the military and Silicon Valley are effectively inseparable: a military-digital complex that permeates everything connected to the internet, even coopting and weaponizing the antigovernment privacy movement that sprang up in the wake of Edward Snowden.

With deep research, skilled storytelling, and provocative arguments, Surveillance Valley will change the way you think about the news--and the device on which you read it.
 
Yep, from the beginning in Sillicon Valley, all the big coorporations were creating technolgy to spy on us.
Internet etc was never intended to be used as a liberating tool, but as a tracking and spying tool, right from the beginning.
The creation of these technology can be traced back to the...Pentagon/cia, ah well, what else is new?

That explains a lot of what is going on right now.

You have a Fifth Amendment. Gossip, hearsay, and soothsay can be controversial in open court.
 
Facebook was created by some college guys to figure out where all the parties were.
 
Conspiracy theories is a few floors down, look into it.

No one says you must use Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. and the majority of those companies use that information for revenue not so much passing over to the government.

In theory, but Google was born at Stanford under CIA contract to design the algorithms to make it easier to process web content and they do maintain the SensorVault database just to facilitate government searches.
 
In theory, but Google was born at Stanford under CIA contract to design the algorithms to make it easier to process web content and they do maintain the SensorVault database just to facilitate government searches.

Perhaps, but it does not get me all concerned looking for tin foil hats.
 
Perhaps, but it does not get me all concerned looking for tin foil hats.

Perhaps not tinfoil hats but you do realize that facebook google, etc can gather large amounts of data on you without your using their services? Their ad services will hunt you down like a runaway calf. You more or less have to leave the web to even have a shot.
 
Perhaps not tinfoil hats but you do realize that facebook google, etc can gather large amounts of data on you without your using their services? Their ad services will hunt you down like a runaway calf. You more or less have to leave the web to even have a shot.

It is called cross platform data collection, and it happens all the time.

You guys really think it is a big mystery why you check out the new Audi's or some new TV and all of a sudden you see Audi and TV ads in Facebook?

How do you guys think these people make money? Watching people post pictures right and left?
 
It is called cross platform data collection, and it happens all the time.

You guys really think it is a big mystery why you check out the new Audi's or some new TV and all of a sudden you see Audi and TV ads in Facebook?

How do you guys think these people make money? Watching people post pictures right and left?

Tis not the only way they do it. They will flat out sell ads based on someone having your email address and paying to put that ad in front of you based on your email being the same on their platform. Quit FB 4 years ago. Before I did I got an ad and clicked on the why are you seeing this ad thing and it said that they were paid by the advertiser to place that ad in front of me based on my email address. For a brief period they were at least honest about it.
 
Really? Do first some research:

Please read the book:

51dRgDh9NKL._SX345_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


The internet is the most effective weapon the government has ever built.

In this fascinating book, investigative reporter Yasha Levine uncovers the secret origins of the internet, tracing it back to a Pentagon counterinsurgency surveillance project.

A visionary intelligence officer, William Godel, realized that the key to winning the war in Vietnam was not outgunning the enemy, but using new information technology to understand their motives and anticipate their movements. This idea--using computers to spy on people and groups perceived as a threat, both at home and abroad--drove ARPA to develop the internet in the 1960s, and continues to be at the heart of the modern internet we all know and use today. As Levine shows, surveillance wasn't something that suddenly appeared on the internet; it was woven into the fabric of the technology.

But this isn't just a story about the NSA or other domestic programs run by the government. As the book spins forward in time, Levine examines the private surveillance business that powers tech-industry giants like Google, Facebook, and Amazon, revealing how these companies spy on their users for profit, all while doing double duty as military and intelligence contractors. Levine shows that the military and Silicon Valley are effectively inseparable: a military-digital complex that permeates everything connected to the internet, even coopting and weaponizing the antigovernment privacy movement that sprang up in the wake of Edward Snowden.

With deep research, skilled storytelling, and provocative arguments, Surveillance Valley will change the way you think about the news--and the device on which you read it.

Palandro:

Uh, no. I think not. Mr. Levine has been a long-time advocate of baseless conspiracy theories, who first came to my attention in 2014 IIRC, when he wrote a paranoid article on the Tor Internet blocking system used by journalists among others to preserve their anonimity. The article was an hysterical attack on the programme based on few facts and lots of baseless speculation. So he is not a reliable source and I will not waste my limited and scarce free-time reading more of his bunk. This is the Academia section, not the CT forum.

Fact-checking Pando’s smears against Tor

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
Palandro:

Uh, no. I think not. Mr. Levine has been a long-time advocate of baseless conspiracy theories, who first came to my attention in 2014 IIRC, when he wrote a paranoid article on the Tor Internet blocking system used by journalists among others to preserve their anonimity. The article was an hysterical attack on the programme based on few facts and lots of baseless speculation. So he is not a reliable source and I will not waste my limited and scarce free-time reading more of his bunk. This is the Academia section, not the CT forum.

Fact-checking Pando’s smears against Tor

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

Well, if he is wrong about one thing (I haven't looked into that yet), doesn't make him automatically wrong on another thing , of course, that is deeply flawed 'thinking'.It is also called being illogical.
 
Really? Do first some research:

Please read the book:

51dRgDh9NKL._SX345_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


The internet is the most effective weapon the government has ever built.

In this fascinating book, investigative reporter Yasha Levine uncovers the secret origins of the internet, tracing it back to a Pentagon counterinsurgency surveillance project.

A visionary intelligence officer, William Godel, realized that the key to winning the war in Vietnam was not outgunning the enemy, but using new information technology to understand their motives and anticipate their movements. This idea--using computers to spy on people and groups perceived as a threat, both at home and abroad--drove ARPA to develop the internet in the 1960s, and continues to be at the heart of the modern internet we all know and use today. As Levine shows, surveillance wasn't something that suddenly appeared on the internet; it was woven into the fabric of the technology.

But this isn't just a story about the NSA or other domestic programs run by the government. As the book spins forward in time, Levine examines the private surveillance business that powers tech-industry giants like Google, Facebook, and Amazon, revealing how these companies spy on their users for profit, all while doing double duty as military and intelligence contractors. Levine shows that the military and Silicon Valley are effectively inseparable: a military-digital complex that permeates everything connected to the internet, even coopting and weaponizing the antigovernment privacy movement that sprang up in the wake of Edward Snowden.

With deep research, skilled storytelling, and provocative arguments, Surveillance Valley will change the way you think about the news--and the device on which you read it.

Surveillance Valley by Yasha Levine – review | Books | The Guardian

 
oeps, now I have looked at the TOR thing.

O my o my!

First of al, a fact check site???????????????????????
Look deeper into this.

And Neil de Grasse Tyson? a full blown lyer????



No, thanks.

Try to work on first principles, please.
 
Please donate more attention to Palandro. He needs it.
 
Well, if he is wrong about one thing (I haven't looked into that yet), doesn't make him automatically wrong on another thing , of course, that is deeply flawed 'thinking'.It is also called being illogical.


Conspiracy Theorists tend to believe multiple theories. Not just one or two.
 
Yep, from the beginning in Sillicon Valley, all the big coorporations were creating technolgy to spy on us.
Internet etc was never intended to be used as a liberating tool, but as a tracking and spying tool, right from the beginning.
The creation of these technology can be traced back to the...Pentagon/cia, ah well, what else is new?

That explains a lot of what is going on right now.

Not from the beginning. That is false.
 
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