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It would seem that if you zap water molecules in a certain fashion, you end up with a hot ice ("supersonic ice"; "Ice 8"). There are also varying states on the way there.


Depending on whom you ask, superionic ice is either another addition to water’s already cluttered array of avatars or something even stranger. Because its water molecules break apart, said physicist
Livia Bove of France’s National Center for Scientific Research and Pierre and Marie Curie University, it’s not quite a new phase of water. “It’s really a new state of matter,” she said, “which is rather spectacular.” . . . Depending on whom you ask, superionic ice is either another addition to water’s already cluttered array of avatars or something even stranger. Because its water molecules break apart, said physicist Livia Bove of France’s National Center for Scientific Research and Pierre and Marie Curie University, it’s not quite a new phase of water. “It’s really a new state of matter,” she said, “which is rather spectacular. . . .

Physicists have been after superionic ice for years—ever since a primitive computer simulation led by Pierfranco Demontis in 1988 predicted water would take on this strange, almost metal-like form if you pushed it beyond the map of known ice phases. Under extreme pressure and heat, the simulations suggested, water molecules break. With the oxygen atoms locked in a cubic lattice, “the hydrogens now start to jump from one position in the crystal to another, and jump again, and jump again,” Millot said. The jumps between lattice sites are so fast that the hydrogen atoms—which are ionized, making them essentially positively charged protons—appear to move like a liquid.



A Bizarre Form of Water May Exist All Over the Universe | WIRED



Interesting...
 
It would seem that if you zap water molecules in a certain fashion, you end up with a hot ice ("supersonic ice"; "Ice 8"). There are also varying states on the way there.


Depending on whom you ask, superionic ice is either another addition to water’s already cluttered array of avatars or something even stranger. Because its water molecules break apart, said physicist
Livia Bove of France’s National Center for Scientific Research and Pierre and Marie Curie University, it’s not quite a new phase of water. “It’s really a new state of matter,” she said, “which is rather spectacular.” . . . Depending on whom you ask, superionic ice is either another addition to water’s already cluttered array of avatars or something even stranger. Because its water molecules break apart, said physicist Livia Bove of France’s National Center for Scientific Research and Pierre and Marie Curie University, it’s not quite a new phase of water. “It’s really a new state of matter,” she said, “which is rather spectacular. . . .

Physicists have been after superionic ice for years—ever since a primitive computer simulation led by Pierfranco Demontis in 1988 predicted water would take on this strange, almost metal-like form if you pushed it beyond the map of known ice phases. Under extreme pressure and heat, the simulations suggested, water molecules break. With the oxygen atoms locked in a cubic lattice, “the hydrogens now start to jump from one position in the crystal to another, and jump again, and jump again,” Millot said. The jumps between lattice sites are so fast that the hydrogen atoms—which are ionized, making them essentially positively charged protons—appear to move like a liquid.



A Bizarre Form of Water May Exist All Over the Universe | WIRED



Interesting...

Red:
Yep.

I wish my knowledge about applied physics (engineering) were deep/expansive enough to have more to say about the matter than "interesting," but alas they're not, nor will they anytime so be. LOL
 
It would seem that if you zap water molecules in a certain fashion, you end up with a hot ice ("supersonic ice"; "Ice 8"). There are also varying states on the way there.


Depending on whom you ask, superionic ice is either another addition to water’s already cluttered array of avatars or something even stranger. Because its water molecules break apart, said physicist
Livia Bove of France’s National Center for Scientific Research and Pierre and Marie Curie University, it’s not quite a new phase of water. “It’s really a new state of matter,” she said, “which is rather spectacular.” . . . Depending on whom you ask, superionic ice is either another addition to water’s already cluttered array of avatars or something even stranger. Because its water molecules break apart, said physicist Livia Bove of France’s National Center for Scientific Research and Pierre and Marie Curie University, it’s not quite a new phase of water. “It’s really a new state of matter,” she said, “which is rather spectacular. . . .

Physicists have been after superionic ice for years—ever since a primitive computer simulation led by Pierfranco Demontis in 1988 predicted water would take on this strange, almost metal-like form if you pushed it beyond the map of known ice phases. Under extreme pressure and heat, the simulations suggested, water molecules break. With the oxygen atoms locked in a cubic lattice, “the hydrogens now start to jump from one position in the crystal to another, and jump again, and jump again,” Millot said. The jumps between lattice sites are so fast that the hydrogen atoms—which are ionized, making them essentially positively charged protons—appear to move like a liquid.



A Bizarre Form of Water May Exist All Over the Universe | WIRED

Interesting...

Your first sentence says "supersonic ice" and I was fired up to read about it because I can understand ice moving supersonically. Then I read the article...

Their new experiment skipped ices VI and VII altogether. Instead, the team simply smashed water with laser blasts between diamond anvils. Billionths of a second later, as shock waves rippled through and the water began crystallizing into nanometer-size ice cubes, the scientists used 16 more laser beams to vaporize a thin sliver of iron next to the sample. The resulting hot plasma flooded the crystallizing water with x-rays, which then diffracted from the ice crystals, allowing the team to discern their structure.

Paraphrasing Tom Cruise, You lost me at "billionths of a second" ;)

This is fascinating stuff but it's almost depressing how far over my head the concepts are and the techniques must be. I can't imagine an instrument or tool that can operate within "billionths of a second" accuracy.

Anyway, thanks for the non-political link. :peace
 
Your first sentence says "supersonic ice" and I was fired up to read about it because I can understand ice moving supersonically. Then I read the article...
Paraphrasing Tom Cruise, You lost me at "billionths of a second" ;)

This is fascinating stuff but it's almost depressing how far over my head the concepts are and the techniques must be. I can't imagine an instrument or tool that can operate within "billionths of a second" accuracy.

Anyway, thanks for the non-political link. :peace

I confess to a rather important typo. It wasn't "supersonic ice", it was "superionic ice"....not that that clarifies the rest

(For a moment I wondered how what I had posted had to do with the speed of sound)




Important edit: but in the article, there is talk of this form of water making up the core of certain planets, and/or more specifically certain 'gas giants'

Meaning the billionths of a second thing might apply only to the circumstances in which the substance was reproduced, rather than circumstances that might create it elsewhere.
 
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