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NASA Observed A Mysterious Phenomenon Coming Out Of A Black Hole – And It Left Scientists Astounded

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NASA Observed A Mysterious Phenomenon Coming Out Of A Black Hole ? And It Left Scientists Astounded

Things like planets vanish into black holes but nothing ever comes back out - until now:

n 2014, the supermassive black hole known as Markarian 335 was observed mysteriously ejecting an object into space. Located near the constellation of Pegasus, some 324 million light-years from Earth, the black hole is one of the heaviest and quickest spinning ever observed – a true colossus that turns so fast that it pulls space and time in with it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markarian_335
 
JacksinPA said:
NASA Observed A Mysterious Phenomenon Coming Out Of A Black Hole ? And It Left Scientists Astounded

Things like planets vanish into black holes but nothing ever comes back out - until now:

n 2014, the supermassive black hole known as Markarian 335 was observed mysteriously ejecting an object into space. Located near the constellation of Pegasus, some 324 million light-years from Earth, the black hole is one of the heaviest and quickest spinning ever observed – a true colossus that turns so fast that it pulls space and time in with it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markarian_335
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That's a strange link, Jack... it had one little blurb on the story and then it went into the history of NASA. I'm thinking the phenomenon was probably just an X-Ray emission typical of black holes.
 
Cordelier said:
That's a strange link, Jack... it had one little blurb on the story and then it went into the history of NASA. I'm thinking the phenomenon was probably just an X-Ray emission typical of black holes.
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Google that object. Plenty of NASA/JPL links about this unusual object & the observed emission.
 
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JacksinPA said:
Wonderful pix. Interesting phenomenon. Imagine this thing rotating at 20% of C & sucking space, matter & time into it. I wonder where it all goes. What's on the other side? A different Universe & this is its Big Bang?
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An entire different universe? If so....are their black holes dumping stuff into *this* universe? I don't know, but it is fun to ponder on, isn't it?
 
JacksinPA said:
Google that object. Plenty of NASA links about this unusual object & the observed emission.
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I don't think there was an "object", per se.... from reading Greenwing's link, it was probably more along the lines of a solar coronal mass ejection that occurs from the Sun routinely... albeit on a much larger scale. The "object" was probably just a mass of superheated plasma.
 
JacksinPA said:
NASA Observed A Mysterious Phenomenon Coming Out Of A Black Hole ? And It Left Scientists Astounded

Things like planets vanish into black holes but nothing ever comes back out - until now:

n 2014, the supermassive black hole known as Markarian 335 was observed mysteriously ejecting an object into space. Located near the constellation of Pegasus, some 324 million light-years from Earth, the black hole is one of the heaviest and quickest spinning ever observed – a true colossus that turns so fast that it pulls space and time in with it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markarian_335
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Can we not do clickbait headlines? It wasn't anything coming out of a black hole. And no scientist described themselves as astounded.
 
JacksinPA said:
Where does the stuff that disappears into black holes go? I doubt it just winks out & disappears. There are the laws of the conservation of mass & energy.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy. Or possibly it just changes phases. A one way probe into a black hole might bring back some interesting data.
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It adds to the mass of the black hole. They're not really holes, just superdense collections of matter. And nothing comes out except Hawking Radiation, because gravity.
 
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-ba...nt-have-an-image-of-a-black-hole-192ea94f97b7

This Is Why The Event Horizon Telescope Still Doesn’t Have An Image Of A Black Hole

The data has been taken, collected, and analyzed. So where is the first image of an event horizon, already?

Across multiple continents, including Antarctica, an array of radio telescopes observe the galactic center.


A view of the different telescopes contributing to the Event Horizon Telescope’s imaging capabilities from one of Earth’s hemispheres. The data taken from 2011 to 2017 should enable us to now construct an image of Sagittarius A*. (APEX, IRAM, G. Narayanan, J. McMahon, JCMT/JAC, S. Hostler, D. Harvey, ESO/C. Malin)
This network, the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), is imaging, for the first time, a black hole’s event horizon.

The most-visualized black hole of all, as illustrated in the movie Interstellar, shows a predicted event horizon fairly accurately for a very specific class of rotating black holes. (Interstellar / R. Hurt / Caltech)
Of all the black holes visible from Earth, the largest is at the galactic center: 37 μas.


This multiwavelength view of the Milky Way’s galactic center goes from the X-ray through the optical and into the infrared, showcasing Sagittarius A* and the intragalactic medium located some 25,000 light years away. Using radio data, the EHT will resolve the event horizon of the central black hole. (X-ray: NASA/CXC/UMass/D. Wang et al.; Optical: NASA/ESA/STScI/D.Wang et al.; IR: NASA/JPL-Caltech/SSC/S.Stolovy)

With a theoretical resolution of 15 μas, the EHT should resolve it.

Despite the incredible news that they’ve detected the black hole’s structure at the galactic center, however, there’s still no direct image.
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Could be that all the light gets sicked in & none comes back out. That could be why you can see the rim of the event horizon but not what lies beyond it.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-ba...nt-have-an-image-of-a-black-hole-192ea94f97b7

This Is Why The Event Horizon Telescope Still Doesn’t Have An Image Of A Black Hole

The data has been taken, collected, and analyzed. So where is the first image of an event horizon, already?

Across multiple continents, including Antarctica, an array of radio telescopes observe the galactic center.


A view of the different telescopes contributing to the Event Horizon Telescope’s imaging capabilities from one of Earth’s hemispheres. The data taken from 2011 to 2017 should enable us to now construct an image of Sagittarius A*. (APEX, IRAM, G. Narayanan, J. McMahon, JCMT/JAC, S. Hostler, D. Harvey, ESO/C. Malin)
This network, the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), is imaging, for the first time, a black hole’s event horizon.

The most-visualized black hole of all, as illustrated in the movie Interstellar, shows a predicted event horizon fairly accurately for a very specific class of rotating black holes. (Interstellar / R. Hurt / Caltech)
Of all the black holes visible from Earth, the largest is at the galactic center: 37 μas.


This multiwavelength view of the Milky Way’s galactic center goes from the X-ray through the optical and into the infrared, showcasing Sagittarius A* and the intragalactic medium located some 25,000 light years away. Using radio data, the EHT will resolve the event horizon of the central black hole. (X-ray: NASA/CXC/UMass/D. Wang et al.; Optical: NASA/ESA/STScI/D.Wang et al.; IR: NASA/JPL-Caltech/SSC/S.Stolovy)

With a theoretical resolution of 15 μas, the EHT should resolve it.

Despite the incredible news that they’ve detected the black hole’s structure at the galactic center, however, there’s still no direct image.
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What are you expecting to see?
 
A rather important quibble: it was an ejection from the corona of the black hole, not the black hole itself (aka from within the event horizon).
 
Greenwing said:
An entire different universe? If so....are their black holes dumping stuff into *this* universe? I don't know, but it is fun to ponder on, isn't it?
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Yes. I'm not up on this topic so I can't offer any meaningful comments.
 
You wont BELIEVE what happened next!!!
 
Greenwing said:
An entire different universe? If so....are their black holes dumping stuff into *this* universe? I don't know, but it is fun to ponder on, isn't it?
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We don't need other universes dumping their rubbish into our universe... that is bull****.
 
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