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Youth and the internet

Lutherf

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I just watched an interview of the kid who has become the face of the Florida school shooting and was struck bu a couple of things. First, he used quite a bit of profanity. I chalk that up to youth. We used quite a bit of profanity back in the day too. Granted, we didn't (as a rule) use it in interviews but it was something we used for shock value.

The other thing I noticed, and this was most striking, was an emphasis on the results of social media feedback. He specifically noted that he didn't care what people said about him because hit Twitter (or other social media) following had increased so much. Is this really something that kids track? Do kids know how many "followers" other kids have? I almost got the impression that, for these kids, social media presence was a primary, rather than a secondary or tertiary, feedback mechanism. Am I wrong in this?

For those that are teens/early twenties and those that have kids that age, what's your take on this? Does one's social media presence influence how much credibility they are perceived to have? Is a larger social media following more likely or less likely to lead to one's ideas being questioned?

The last thing I noticed was the kid's citing of "critical thinking" but I'm not sure he was using that term to mean what I was taught it meant. When I was in school we were taught that "critical thinking" was the ability to look at a concept from multiple perspectives and analyze those views from the standpoint of them being valid. We were taught to test those theories and discover what parts of them, if any, stood up to the test. What I heard this kid say, and I may be mistaken, is that "critical thinking" is a matter of being able to invalidate concepts that stand in opposition to your own. Am I interpreting his words incorrectly and, if not, how prevalent is that understanding of "critical thinking"?

For reference, this article contains the video I'm referring to. - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/03/23/david_hogg_our_parents_dont_know_how_to_use_a_fcking_democracy_so_we_have_to.html
 
Good article here:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0g...d-google/RK=2/RS=2hhDzRsNDb6xv1.kEMvsIlqK7Xg-


I left "youth" way back when but it is my impression that the article bears out. Just being out and about and watching people. It's not just the young ones either. Nor is this restricted to the US. I have been fortunate to travel and phones are in more hands than not. There is also that tell-tale tilt of the head and the expectation that you make way for them.
 
I just watched an interview of the kid who has become the face of the Florida school shooting and was struck bu a couple of things. First, he used quite a bit of profanity. I chalk that up to youth. We used quite a bit of profanity back in the day too. Granted, we didn't (as a rule) use it in interviews but it was something we used for shock value.

Yeah, I curse quite a bit too, but I only do that around the right people.

The other thing I noticed, and this was most striking, was an emphasis on the results of social media feedback. He specifically noted that he didn't care what people said about him because hit Twitter (or other social media) following had increased so much. Is this really something that kids track? Do kids know how many "followers" other kids have? I almost got the impression that, for these kids, social media presence was a primary, rather than a secondary or tertiary, feedback mechanism. Am I wrong in this?

For those that are teens/early twenties and those that have kids that age, what's your take on this? Does one's social media presence influence how much credibility they are perceived to have? Is a larger social media following more likely or less likely to lead to one's ideas being questioned?

Oh yes, it is. The more "clout" you have on social media, the more "influential" you are. Just look at idiots like WoahVicky and I used to be seriously concerned with that on Instagram and my Twitter accounts. But I've stopped caring as I've grown older. The only thing I'm really concerned with now is keeping up my Snapchat streaks. :lol:
 
Yeah, I curse quite a bit too, but I only do that around the right people.



Oh yes, it is. The more "clout" you have on social media, the more "influential" you are. Just look at idiots like WoahVicky and I used to be seriously concerned with that on Instagram and my Twitter accounts. But I've stopped caring as I've grown older. The only thing I'm really concerned with now is keeping up my Snapchat streaks. :lol:

OK, what is a "snapchat streak"?
 
OK, what is a "snapchat streak"?

A streak happens when you send snaps back and forth to each other every day. It keeps building up. The only streaks that I have over a hundred right now are with my girlfriend and two of my friends. But I have lot of other streaks I constantly keep up with.
 
Starts off as as lie. 14 not 17 student killed.

You use curse words when you lack vocabulary.
 
The other thing I noticed, and this was most striking, was an emphasis on the results of social media feedback. He specifically noted that he didn't care what people said about him because hit Twitter (or other social media) following had increased so much. Is this really something that kids track? Do kids know how many "followers" other kids have? I almost got the impression that, for these kids, social media presence was a primary, rather than a secondary or tertiary, feedback mechanism. Am I wrong in this?

For those that are teens/early twenties and those that have kids that age, what's your take on this? Does one's social media presence influence how much credibility they are perceived to have? Is a larger social media following more likely or less likely to lead to one's ideas being questioned?

Come come now. You know very well that when you were a youth popularity was a measure of your status in your social grouping. Whether you were a jock or a nerd, you also measured your credibility by such status...and so did everyone else around you. Currently, it is measured by the number of followers you have in social media and the number of likes or other up/down voting you get on each post.

Kids these days can ride a wave of such popularity, or commit suicide over being "mobbed" with negative posts.

The last thing I noticed was the kid's citing of "critical thinking" but I'm not sure he was using that term to mean what I was taught it meant. When I was in school we were taught that "critical thinking" was the ability to look at a concept from multiple perspectives and analyze those views from the standpoint of them being valid. We were taught to test those theories and discover what parts of them, if any, stood up to the test. What I heard this kid say, and I may be mistaken, is that "critical thinking" is a matter of being able to invalidate concepts that stand in opposition to your own. Am I interpreting his words incorrectly and, if not, how prevalent is that understanding of "critical thinking"?

You are correct in that he, and other young citizens have twisted the concept of "critical thinking" from the original meaning to a literal interpretation; i.e. criticizing both the positions and the character of other's that you disagree with to win a point rather than analyzing those positions to see if they have any real merit.

Just another example of Orwellian "1984 new speak" in our interweb communication society. IMO this is a direct result of the change in education by teachers who think they are empowered to "mold" young minds into "right-think" rather than to teach critical thinking skills to make informed decisions.
 
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Yeah, I curse quite a bit too, but I only do that around the right people.
The other day while driving in Phoenix traffic with the crew, I noticed that I am sounding more and more like a character on the Sopranos every day. I believe I managed to use F as noun, verb and adjective in one sentence. :)



Oh yes, it is. The more "clout" you have on social media, the more "influential" you are. Just look at idiots like WoahVicky and I used to be seriously concerned with that on Instagram and my Twitter accounts. But I've stopped caring as I've grown older. The only thing I'm really concerned with now is keeping up my Snapchat streaks. :lol:
I get a kick out of reading how people are influencers on Instagram or whatever. Freaking hilarious.
 
"When your old-ass parent is like, ‘I don’t know how to send an iMessage,’ and you’re just like, ‘Give me the ****ing phone and let me handle it.’ Sadly, that’s what we have to do with our government; our parents don’t know how to use a ****ing democracy, so we have to."

Hogg is a potty-mouthed idiot.


But hey...after today, the mainstream media will dial things back, he won't get as many calls, his TwIdiots will find the next new thing. Hopefully he has a college lined up. If not, he's behind the eight-ball.

Given his quickness to anger, I predict he'll become a major player in Antifa...at least, until he starts swing a bike lock around.
 
Hogg is a potty-mouthed idiot.


But hey...after today, the mainstream media will dial things back, he won't get as many calls, his TwIdiots will find the next new thing. Hopefully he has a college lined up. If not, he's behind the eight-ball.

Given his quickness to anger, I predict he'll become a major player in Antifa...at least, until he starts swing a bike lock around.

Boo hoo the kid is using mean woooooords
 
Boo hoo the kid is using mean woooooords

Yep. Exactly what I was thinking. Holding this kid to higher standards than the president. Amazing.

Kids will make mistakes and they will act in ways that adults don't care for at times. And what they say doesn't become gospel just because they experienced a travesty. But their stories are fairly moving and they as a whole tend to be very articulate, the exact opposite of what all the old folks tend to say about the youth these days.

One thing I know for an absolute fact. If these same kids had been at a house party and one of them was 18 and had a concealed carry permit and fended off an attacker, the "any gun control is tyranny" crowd would be holding them up as absolute heroes to be worshiped, not to mention bringing them on for interviews etc in the exact same way "the left" is doing. And what these kids are saying ain't that crazy. That's why the right has been having to lie so much about what they are advocating for.
 
Both are acting a little like the POTUS???

You don't say!

But only one of them is a child who wants to act like an adult...and then cries like a child when he's treated like an adult.

Maybe Hogg should go back to his childish things and leave the adult stuff to the adults.
 
But only one of them is a child who wants to act like an adult...and then cries like a child when he's treated like an adult.

Maybe Hogg should go back to his childish things and leave the adult stuff to the adults.

Keep attacking victims of a mass shooting, it's amusing!

He's not acting like a child. In fact, these kids are acting like better adults than most adults. They're getting out there, organizing rallies, organizing protests, organizing boycotts. They're getting their voices heard. What do you want them to do instead?

Oh, you want them to shut up, because you don't agree with their opinions.
 
Sure, comparable :lamo

Go whine more about MUH FREE SPEECH

LOL!!

Don't cry at me just because I directed YOUR whine back at you.

Get over it.
 
Yeah, I curse quite a bit too, but I only do that around the right people.



Oh yes, it is. The more "clout" you have on social media, the more "influential" you are. Just look at idiots like WoahVicky and I used to be seriously concerned with that on Instagram and my Twitter accounts. But I've stopped caring as I've grown older. The only thing I'm really concerned with now is keeping up my Snapchat streaks. :lol:

They don't have a monopoly on this kind of thing. Search YouTube for "Granny Potty Mouth" and be prepared to laugh your ass off.
 
Keep attacking victims of a mass shooting, it's amusing!

He's not acting like a child. In fact, these kids are acting like better adults than most adults. They're getting out there, organizing rallies, organizing protests, organizing boycotts. They're getting their voices heard. What do you want them to do instead?

Oh, you want them to shut up, because you don't agree with their opinions.

I would rather this punk get an education, get some life experience, lose his obnoxious, disgusting hyperbole...then, maybe, people will take him seriously.
 
Starts off as as lie. 14 not 17 student killed.

You use curse words when you lack vocabulary.

Not always true. I rarely use them, but when I do it's to get people's clear attention. When I was a plant mgr., I made it a point to almost never curse in front of my crew. The rare times when I needed to get 110% of their attention, I'd drop a couple of them and because it was so out of character for me, I got every bit of that 110%.
 
I would rather this punk get an education, get some life experience, lose his obnoxious, disgusting hyperbole...then, maybe, people will take him seriously.

Given the number of advertisers who within 48 hours have responded to David Hogg's boycott request - I think that people are taking him dead seriously.
 
LOL!!

Don't cry at me just because I directed YOUR whine back at you.

Get over it.

I wasn't whining I was pointing out that someone else was whining. I think you're confused.
 
Given the number of advertisers who within 48 hours have responded to David Hogg's boycott request - I think that people are taking him dead seriously.

Oh...he certainly has plenty of useful idiot following him...at least, until CNN discards him. Then he'll be useful only to Antifa.
 
I would rather this punk get an education, get some life experience, lose his obnoxious, disgusting hyperbole...then, maybe, people will take him seriously.

Counterpoint:

No. He's gonna get in your face because a bunch of his friends got murdered. ****in deal with it.
 
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