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LIGO detects gravity waves for the third time.

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The gravity waves predicted by Einstein being detected a third time has turned it away from a novelty, and now into the realms of a
research instrument.

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-06/miot-ldg052617.php


he Laser Interferometer Gravitational-wave Observatory (LIGO) has made a third detection of gravitational waves, ripples in space and time, demonstrating that a new window in astronomy has been firmly opened. As was the case with the first two detections, the waves were generated when two black holes collided to form a larger black hole.

The newfound black hole, formed by the merger, has a mass about 49 times that of our sun. This fills in a gap between the masses of the two merged black holes detected previously by LIGO, with solar masses of 62 (first detection) and 21 (second detection).

"We have further confirmation of the existence of stellar-mass black holes that are larger than 20 solar masses -- these are objects we didn't know existed before LIGO detected them," says MIT's David Shoemaker, the newly elected spokesperson for the LIGO Scientific Collaboration (LSC), a body of more than 1,000 international scientists who perform LIGO research together with the European-based Virgo Collaboration. "It is remarkable that humans can put together a story, and test it, for such strange and extreme events that took place billions of years ago and billions of light-years distant from us. The entire LIGO and Virgo scientific collaborations worked to put all these pieces together."
 
The frontiers of science just dont resonate with us like they used to....
 
The frontiers of science just dont resonate with us like they used to....

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Hawkeye at least for myself I had never lost the sense of wonder concerning such events.
 
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Hawkeye at least for myself I had never lost the sense of wonder concerning such events.

I remember when this stuff was popular enough to support a monthly mag (omni)....but things have changed.
 
I remember when this stuff was popular enough to support a monthly mag (omni)....but things have changed.

There still is scientific american and discovery. However, with the internet, magazines in general are not doing as well as they did.
 
There still is scientific american and discovery. However, with the internet, magazines in general are not doing as well as they did.

That argument would be more convincing if science got more interest on places such as DP.....but as science has become more corrupt and as fidelity to truth has withered....

I subscribed to onmi for three years, and read it more, this turn of events does not set well with me.
 
That argument would be more convincing if science got more interest on places such as DP.....but as science has become more corrupt and as fidelity to truth has withered....

I subscribed to onmi for three years, and read it more, this turn of events does not set well with me.

Shrug... It isn't science that got corrupt.. it is the think tanks that want to counter science to help the economic interests of their backers.
 
That argument would be more convincing if science got more interest on places such as DP.....but as science has become more corrupt and as fidelity to truth has withered....

I subscribed to onmi for three years, and read it more, this turn of events does not set well with me.

This is simply not true.
 
Shrug... It isn't science that got corrupt.. it is the think tanks that want to counter science to help the economic interests of their backers.

With as corrupt as peer review is, and looking at what gets funded and what does not because of political pressure, I dont think that argument has a leg to stand on. That plus the silence of the scientists on any evidence that runs counter to the dictates of the global elite...thinking here of matters such as race or global warming or genetics or the dreams of UTOPIA....stuff like that...anyone who speaks up against the script gets hammered, regardless of their argument or evidence.

What about all the lies about what we should eat?

What about all the lies about sexual assault?

What about the lies about sex offender lists?

What about the lies about smoking?

What about the lies about Pot?

What about the lies about...
 
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With as corrupt as peer review is, and looking at what gets funded and what does not because of political pressure, I dont thing that argument has a leg to stand on. That plus the silence of the scientists on any evidence that runs counter to the dictates of the global elite...thinking here of matters as race or global warming or genetics or the dreams of UTOPIA....stuff like that...anyone who speaks up against the script gets hammered, regardless of their argument or evidence.

What about all the lies about what we should eat?

What about all the lies about sexual assault?

What about the lies about sex offender lists?

What about the lies about smoking?

What about the lies about Pot?

What about the lies about...

And, what lies are those. Show that those lies come from science, and not the government, or the libertarian think thanks, funded by huge economic interests.

You make the claim, you supply the evidence.
 
I remember when this stuff was popular enough to support a monthly mag (omni)....but things have changed.

Omni never live up to it promises in my opinion but we have Scientific America that is over a hundred years old and in a more similar vein to Omni we have Analog Science Fiction and Fact that date back to the 1920s.

For the decades as I was growing up John W. Campbell with a engineering background from MIT was the editor of Analog/Astounding and his monthly editorials resulted in my engineering career.

During WW2 Wernher von Braun went to the trouble to get Analog/Astounding by way of third countries and diplomatic pouches so I was in good company in loving that magazine.
 
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And, what lies are those. Show that those lies come from science, and not the government, or the libertarian think thanks, funded by huge economic interests.

You make the claim, you supply the evidence.

I dont always work that way, I only work that way if I decide that the matter is important enough to me to work that way, because your education is your problem not mine. Sometimes I describe what my eye sees hoping that others come forward with what they see, and we compare notes. I am Eastern Trained, I insist that western minds make room for how we live, for how we work...I insist on some efforts to maintain diversity, I insist that you make room for me.
 
I dont always work that way, I only work that way if I decide that the matter is important enough to me to work that way, because your education is your problem not mine. Sometimes I describe what my eye sees hoping that others come forward with what they see, and we compare notes. I am Eastern Trained, I insist that western minds make room for how we live, for how we work...I insist on some efforts to maintain diversity, I insist that you make room for me.


You have all the room you want.. however, you make claims, if you can't back them up, I ignore those claims. Simple as that.
 
What is your theory on why the findings of science are increasingly dismissed?

By know nothings like Trump and his supporters?

You know I have a problem with claims that climate models can be dependent to predict changes in the earth climate in fine details as climate is a chaos system but even given that loading the atmosphere with CO2 is stupid and irresponsible.
 
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What is your theory on why the findings of science are increasingly dismissed?

The internet is the greatest tool in existence for spreading information, which also makes it the greatest tool for misinformation. It's easier and faster to spread bull**** than to debunk it. Additionally, as science advances it becomes increasingly complicated and specialized. There's a greater gap between the frontiers of science and the average person than their used to be. So, faced with conflicting information about things they don't understand, people just go with whatever story they like better.
 
By know nothings like Trump and his supporters?

You know I have a problem with claims that climate models can be dependent to predict changes in the earth climate in fine details as climate is a chaos system but even given that loading the atmosphere with CO2 is stupid and irresponsible.

Ding ding! Another Trump supporter dig that has zero to do with the thread.

Can you prove that republicans/conservatives do not appreciate science?
 
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